collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

FFP by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:56:18 AM]


Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:41:59 AM]


Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by eamonn
[Today at 12:23:17 AM]


The International Cricket Thread by Rory
[Today at 12:02:41 AM]


Season Ticket 2025/26 by Drummond
[August 04, 2025, 10:34:34 PM]


A strange pre-seson by Steve67
[August 04, 2025, 10:24:22 PM]


Villa Park Redevelopment by Pete3206
[August 04, 2025, 05:19:31 PM]

Recent Posts

Re: FFP by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:56:18 AM]


Re: Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:41:59 AM]


Re: Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by cdbearsfan
[Today at 01:36:45 AM]


Re: FFP by paul_e
[Today at 01:32:53 AM]


Re: Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:32:23 AM]


Re: FFP by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:24:02 AM]


Re: FFP by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:19:20 AM]


Re: Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by eamonn
[Today at 12:23:17 AM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Emi Martinez  (Read 907344 times)

Offline PeterWithesShin

  • Member
  • Posts: 75718
  • GM : 17.03.2015
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3480 on: February 18, 2023, 08:21:46 PM »
I assume the data Emery has is that conceding a goal is more likely than scoring one when the keeper goes up. I reckon Emi went up as he's the win at all costs type. What we don't know is if he's been told by Emery to stay back. If he has, then as much as I'd prefer Emi up there last minute when losing, he should stay back.

Offline VILLA MOLE

  • Member
  • Posts: 7898
  • Age: 50
  • Location: STRATFORD UPON AVON
  • a v f c
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3481 on: February 18, 2023, 08:23:19 PM »
We don’t seem to counter quickly anymore from
the goalkeeper distributing it quickly up field


Hoe long was it between him catching the cross and Phil scoring?

Indeed, today probably the least appropriate day to make that observation!

Ahh good point but up until now it isn’t something we have done alot , hopefully that will change

Offline PaulWinch again

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 54872
  • Location: winchester
  • GM : 25.05.2026
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3482 on: February 18, 2023, 08:24:42 PM »
That’s fine but even if it is more like, I still come back to the so what?

Offline colin69

  • Member
  • Posts: 814
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3483 on: February 18, 2023, 08:33:47 PM »
He’s the best keeper we’ve had in years but his time wasting is just too blatant. There’s a time and a place for it but he does it too often recently. That said his distribution today was awful.

Offline Bent Neilsens Screamer

  • Member
  • Posts: 7927
  • Location: On a dark desert highway.
  • GM : 25.11.2024
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3484 on: February 18, 2023, 08:37:20 PM »
He’s a decent keeper but I’m not sure he’s quite as good as a lot of people (himself included?) seem to think. It’s not that difficult to recruit a good goalkeeper compared to how rare top strikers are, for example. If he goes it’ll be a bit sad but not the end of the world.

Agreed.

Well between them Nyland and Olsen are experienced big league keepers with 105 internationals caps combined yet we all see the gulf when those two played for us in last few years.

I'm not convinced replacing a keeper with Emi's match winning quality (people will say he hasn't played that well recently but that close range save v Leeds is not a save many in this league could do and it helped us win a tight game) will be as easy as people say.

Reeks a bit of "let's just replace Grealish with 3-4 players over the pitch" and 18 months on Ings has already been and gone and Bailey and Buendia are still incredibly hit and miss.

I’m not saying it’ll be easy but it’s different compared to replacing a prolific striker or fulcrum of the side. He’s not infallible and does make mistakes and you mentioned some who have gone before him in the not too distant past and that highlights Martinez’ talents even more. We see him week in week out but we don’t view other keepers in the same way.

He’s a bit of a pantomime villain, someone who other teams focus on and it’s been a while since we’ve had a player like that and that’s part of his attraction.

I’m sick of players not wanting to be part of our club and I don’t care where they’ve come from and what they’ve won elsewhere, they’ve signed a deal so they leave on our terms.

It’s taken us years to finally appoint a manager with real pedigree and I’m all in on Unai, I’d be sorry to see Martinez go but if it comes to that I’d back the manager and it does feel as though something is brewing.

Offline N'ZMAV

  • Member
  • Posts: 10076
  • Location: Peckham
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3485 on: February 18, 2023, 08:44:49 PM »
the gaffer is the gaffer, if he said stay back, then Emi needs to stay the fuck back.

Offline PaulWinch again

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 54872
  • Location: winchester
  • GM : 25.05.2026
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3486 on: February 18, 2023, 10:56:43 PM »
the gaffer is the gaffer, if he said stay back, then Emi needs to stay the fuck back.

Well listening to the interview it sounds like he hadn’t told him not to go forward, just it’s not what he expects him to do.

Offline Bully2345

  • Member
  • Posts: 755
  • Location: Nottingham
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3487 on: February 18, 2023, 11:19:04 PM »
It’s interesting to hear Emery be as honest as he has been so will be interesting to see how Martinez responds. I’d say the time wasting grates on Emery as he clear wants to play front foot football and we revert to underdogs when we have something to defend. Kicking it out of play three times also won’t help.

I personally wasn’t fussed that he came up for the corner but successful football managers will want players to play as they want so if Emery is against it then he knows more than me.

We’ll see how Emi reacts and adapts to it. The potential value in selling him and his struggles with the ball at his feet could lead to an amicable divorce this summer. We probably won’t end up with a better keeper but we would have one that fits the philosophy

Offline Legion

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59457
  • Age: 54
  • Location: With my son
  • Oh, it must be! And it is! Villa in the lead!
    • Personal Education Services
  • GM : 05.04.2019
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3488 on: February 18, 2023, 11:20:37 PM »
I hate how even our own fans say how fickle we can be at times. Fuck all fickle having most debating a month ago if he's the best keeper they've ever seen play for us and now saying he's crap and embarrassing.

Bit late to the party. This.

Offline Legion

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59457
  • Age: 54
  • Location: With my son
  • Oh, it must be! And it is! Villa in the lead!
    • Personal Education Services
  • GM : 05.04.2019
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3489 on: February 18, 2023, 11:23:17 PM »
Even if that is the case - and it’s very odd for Emery to call it out in public - it doesn’t change the fact it’s a very normal thing to do.
100% I heard it and saw it
And look how excited its got you.
Well I do admire being right and when its shot down when was actually right people should be more respecting.

Wow. Seriously?

Offline pauliewalnuts

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 74471
  • GM : 28.08.2025
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3490 on: February 19, 2023, 12:08:24 AM »
Watching his interview, Emery clearly displeased with Martinez.

Offline SoccerHQ

  • Member
  • Posts: 43235
  • Location: Down, down, deeper and Down.
  • GM : 19.06.2021
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3491 on: February 19, 2023, 12:15:52 AM »
Watching his interview, Emery clearly displeased with Martinez.

Did they have a fallout at Arsenal?

It reminds me of when Houllier came in years back. Him and Friedel didn't see eye to eye at Liverpool but Brad still played every week although wasn't quite as solid. We didn't offer him a new deal and he went to Spurs and had a very good season while we were lumbered with Given on a 5 year deal.

That's a classic example of where casually letting a perfectly capable keeper just leave can destabilise things especially if you need to improve 2-3 other positions urgently as we need to.

Offline Legion

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59457
  • Age: 54
  • Location: With my son
  • Oh, it must be! And it is! Villa in the lead!
    • Personal Education Services
  • GM : 05.04.2019
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3492 on: February 19, 2023, 12:18:08 AM »
They did.

Offline LeonW

  • Member
  • Posts: 2082
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3493 on: February 19, 2023, 12:48:55 AM »
Both Martinez and Emery need to sort out any issues they have. We can’t get world class players through the door easily so we need to keep hold of those that do. Having the money isn’t worth it.

Offline OzVilla

  • Member
  • Posts: 7987
  • Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia
  • GM : 16.08.2023
Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3494 on: February 19, 2023, 12:53:59 AM »
I think Martinez’s comments the other week tells us all we need to know. Sure he loves the Villa but he wants Champions League now, he’s off. We just need to get to dollar.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal