Not sharing it is one thing - criticising someone for being optimistic is quite another.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 11:48:21 AMNot sharing it is one thing - criticising someone for being optimistic is quite another.What about criticising someone for being pessimistic, particularly at this moment in time? As I said, this cuts both ways and both 'sides' are as bad as each other.
I one had a bit of a disagreement coming out of the ground with somebody over whether we should sell David Platt. He didn't speak to me again until we found ourselves locked in at the Black Eagle nearly twenty years later.
Us staying up is possible but unlikely. Is there much more to say until after the Arsenal game?
Being pessimistic is one thing. Moaning about everything a dozen times over is a bit counter-productive.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 11:52:30 AMBeing pessimistic is one thing. Moaning about everything a dozen times over is a bit counter-productive.But on here, on this very thread, the accusation is being thrown about (by the optimistic) that being pessimistic equates to wanting the club to be relegated in order to be proved right. That's utter shit.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on July 20, 2020, 12:01:44 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 11:52:30 AMBeing pessimistic is one thing. Moaning about everything a dozen times over is a bit counter-productive.But on here, on this very thread, the accusation is being thrown about (by the optimistic) that being pessimistic equates to wanting the club to be relegated in order to be proved right. That's utter shit.While it’s none of my business, it seems weird to get into an argument to defend the right to be a pain in the arse.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on July 20, 2020, 12:01:44 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 11:52:30 AMBeing pessimistic is one thing. Moaning about everything a dozen times over is a bit counter-productive.But on here, on this very thread, the accusation is being thrown about (by the optimistic) that being pessimistic equates to wanting the club to be relegated in order to be proved right. That's utter shit.No it isn't.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 12:04:35 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 20, 2020, 12:01:44 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 11:52:30 AMBeing pessimistic is one thing. Moaning about everything a dozen times over is a bit counter-productive.But on here, on this very thread, the accusation is being thrown about (by the optimistic) that being pessimistic equates to wanting the club to be relegated in order to be proved right. That's utter shit.No it isn't.Okay, name names. Who on here wants us to be relegated in order to be proved right.
Quote from: Duncan Shaw on July 20, 2020, 07:53:04 AMQuote from: Le Lapin on July 20, 2020, 06:10:59 AMQuote from: lovejoy on July 19, 2020, 11:01:21 PMQuote from: Le Lapin on July 19, 2020, 09:09:35 PMIts all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down. It’s in our hands pending results elsewhere?!Yes, pending expected results elsewhere, Citeh beating Watford, Arsenal beating Watford and hoping Everton turn up against Bournemouth. So we are hoping to beat Arsenal, who outplayed Citeh at the weekend but hope that said Citeh beat Watford and then the Arsenal we manage to beat return to form to beat Watford, with nothing to play for in the league and one eye on the cup final...….Okaaaaayyyy!It’s comments like this that convince me that some fans want to see us relegated.We are Aston Villa.
Quote from: Le Lapin on July 20, 2020, 06:10:59 AMQuote from: lovejoy on July 19, 2020, 11:01:21 PMQuote from: Le Lapin on July 19, 2020, 09:09:35 PMIts all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down. It’s in our hands pending results elsewhere?!Yes, pending expected results elsewhere, Citeh beating Watford, Arsenal beating Watford and hoping Everton turn up against Bournemouth. So we are hoping to beat Arsenal, who outplayed Citeh at the weekend but hope that said Citeh beat Watford and then the Arsenal we manage to beat return to form to beat Watford, with nothing to play for in the league and one eye on the cup final...….Okaaaaayyyy!
Quote from: lovejoy on July 19, 2020, 11:01:21 PMQuote from: Le Lapin on July 19, 2020, 09:09:35 PMIts all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down. It’s in our hands pending results elsewhere?!Yes, pending expected results elsewhere, Citeh beating Watford, Arsenal beating Watford and hoping Everton turn up against Bournemouth.
Quote from: Le Lapin on July 19, 2020, 09:09:35 PMIts all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down. It’s in our hands pending results elsewhere?!
Its all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down.
I thought we were down before the restart and non of our results since, Palace aside, have made my outlook any sunnier. Yet here we are with two games to go and we're still in it. After each match I go through a cycle of accepting relegation as inevitable before the creeping on-set of hope has me buying another NowTV sports pass, convinced that a win is on the way. In my post Everton cycle I'm currently of the opinion that we'll lose to the Arse, but I'm starting to think we're due surprise result and Arsenal will have their minds elsewhere. I'll be reaching for my wallet at 8pm tomorrow. Personally I like posts with the more extreme opinions of optimism and pessimism, they make for an entertaining read and I'm not offended or bothered by either. Which I guess is why I don't post very often, it's boring in the middle
It's starting to feel that some people want us to fail just so they are proven right on a supporters forum...sad.