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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3435 on: July 27, 2022, 06:36:50 PM »
Feel a bit for Mings, but I remember saying on here around the time he first got the captaincy that I thought it might hinder his game slightly. Club Captain would have been a better call instead of Young.

Club captain tends to be the older, wiser professional though. It would also have probably been seen as a bit of a token effort to give him that after taking the captaincy off him, like being made hall monitor after being head boy.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2022, 06:39:41 PM by Risso »

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3436 on: July 27, 2022, 06:37:46 PM »
Feel a bit for Mings, but I remember saying on here around the time he first got the captaincy that I thought it might hinder his game slightly. Club Captain would have been a better call instead of Young. Pleased for McGinn though.

Or maybe Gerrard doesn’t think he should be a regular starter?

It does look that way possibly but we'll see. If it improves his game then fair enough.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3437 on: July 27, 2022, 06:38:30 PM »
Apologies in advance for my ignorance, but what does the Club Captain role filled by Young do exactly?

It appears to be pretty much a ceremonial role given to the most experienced bloke who isn't rocking the boat.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3438 on: July 27, 2022, 06:39:28 PM »
Apologies in advance for my ignorance, but what does the Club Captain role filled by Young do exactly?

It appears to be pretty much a ceremonial role given to the most experienced bloke who isn't rocking the boat.
Its like the Father of House of Commons

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3439 on: July 27, 2022, 06:40:03 PM »
Feel a bit for Mings, but I remember saying on here around the time he first got the captaincy that I thought it might hinder his game slightly. Club Captain would have been a better call instead of Young.

Club captain tends to be the older, wiser professional though. It would would have probably been seen as a bit of a token effort to give him that after taking the captaincy off him, like being made hall monitor after being head boy.

I suppose and it's a role he could always move into once Young retires, if he's still here that is.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3440 on: July 27, 2022, 06:42:42 PM »
Surprised by this, as i dont know if SJM will even be a regular starter, unless Gerrard has a new formation up his sleeve that works.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3441 on: July 27, 2022, 06:51:30 PM »
Absolutely baffled by this decision? Was expecting him to be a substitute next season to be honest.....VERY worrying

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3442 on: July 27, 2022, 06:54:30 PM »
Surprised by this, as i dont know if SJM will even be a regular starter, unless Gerrard has a new formation up his sleeve that works.

That’s the thing, he is captain now so will start every game if available.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3443 on: July 27, 2022, 06:54:33 PM »
I’ll join you in being baffled.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3444 on: July 27, 2022, 06:55:17 PM »
Seems a pointless and unnecessary snub to Mings for me.

Or it shows that this is Gerrard's team and nobody's place is guaranteed.

Unless you are named John McGinn.  I really think this is a terrible decision and could have team repercussions as it firmly endorses his role as being undroppable

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3445 on: July 27, 2022, 06:56:32 PM »
Absolutely baffled by this decision? Was expecting him to be a substitute next season to be honest.....VERY worrying

It is baffling, not sure about VERY worrying.

Logically, if he had already made his mind up about Mings, who else was he going to pick?  Neither Ings or Watkins, as both will be interchangeable/droppable.  Coutinho - not the right character.  Buendia - still establishing himself.  Ramsay - too young.  Kamara - too new.  Digne - too French (joke).  Cash - about the only other person I could think of, but doesn't seem vocal enough. 

I can only think McGinn was his only choice and that he won't be afraid to drop him, much in the same way he wasn't afraid to take the captaincy from Mings.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3446 on: July 27, 2022, 06:57:29 PM »
Feel a bit for Mings, but I remember saying on here around the time he first got the captaincy that I thought it might hinder his game slightly. Club Captain would have been a better call instead of Young.

Club captain tends to be the older, wiser professional though. It would also have probably been seen as a bit of a token effort to give him that after taking the captaincy off him, like being made hall monitor after being head boy.

Yes, team captain is a role for during a game but club captain has a responsibility across the whole squad.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3447 on: July 27, 2022, 07:01:57 PM »
I'm not baffled by it,  I can see why he's done it. Maybe he sees a bit of McGinn in himself and having been a midfield playing captain for Liverpool, maybe he thinks it's what works best. Having said that, I haven't got a clue who his captain was at Rangers.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3448 on: July 27, 2022, 07:02:45 PM »
Seems a pointless and unnecessary snub to Mings for me.

Or it shows that this is Gerrard's team and nobody's place is guaranteed.

Unless you are named John McGinn.  I really think this is a terrible decision and could have team repercussions as it firmly endorses his role as being undroppable

Philippe Coutinho says hello, as does Ollie Watkins.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #3449 on: July 27, 2022, 07:08:17 PM »
His level is going to have to go up.

 


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