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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Footy-Vill on August 19, 2024, 03:53:16 PM
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Just under 3 weeks till Villa players are on international duty for 24 /25 season.
There are nations league internationals and world cup qualifiers
The first international news is that for 6th and 10th September Emi Martinez has been called up to Argentina Squad which has just been announced for upcoming World Cup 2026 Qualifiers Vs Chile and Colombia
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Nations League news
Ian Maatsen has been named in 35 man provisional squad for Netherlands two home matches
(As has Lutsharel Geertruida)
7th Sept Netherlands V Bosnia & Herzegovina
10th Sept Netherlands V Germany
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Nations League news
Ian Maatsen has been named in 35 man provisional squad for Netherlands two home matches
(As has Lutsharel Geertruida)
7th Sept Netherlands V Bosnia & Herzegovina
10th Sept Netherlands V Germany
Maatsen can tap him up a bit.
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Nations League news
Ian Maatsen has been named in 35 man provisional squad for Netherlands two home matches
(As has Lutsharel Geertruida)
7th Sept Netherlands V Bosnia & Herzegovina
10th Sept Netherlands V Germany
Maatsen can tap him up a bit.
First couple of weeks in September might be a bit late for that
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I had mid September in my head for some reason. Fine. No tapping up. He'll just have to become beasties with him so when he joins up with the squad he's already settled.
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Nations League news squad announcement Scotland
John McGinn called up to play 5th Sept Poland home and 8th Portugal away
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Rogers, Philogene, and Iling-Junior have all been called up to the U21 England squad.
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Thursday 5th:
Spain V Serbia, Scotland. Netherlands under 21s, Australia
(H) Pau Torres V (A) Nedeljković
(H)John McGinn V Poland
(H) Gauci V Bahrain
(H) Maatsen V North Macedonia U21
Friday 6th:
Belgium, France, Argentina, England Under 21s
(H)Tielemans and Onana V Israel
(H) Digne V Italy
(H) Martinez V Chile
(A) Rogers and Philogene V Northern Ireland
Saturday 7th:
England , Colombia
(A) Konsa V Ireland Republic
(A)Duran V Peru
Sunday 8th:
Spain, Serbia, Scotland
(A) Pau Torres V Switzerland
(A) Nedeljković V Denmark
(A) McGinn v Portugal
Monday 9th:
Belgium v France , England Under 21s, Netherlands U21s
(H)Onana and Tielemans V (A)Digne
(H)Rogers and Philogene V Austria U21
(A)Maatsen V Georgia U21
Tuesday 10th:
England, Colombia V Argentina, Australia
(H) Konsa V Finland
(H)Duran V (A)Martinez.
(A) Gauci V Indonesia
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Gauci was an unsed sub one for Australia defeat 0-1 at home to Bahrain.
International watch this evening:
John McGinn starts for Scotland
Nedeljković playing right wing back against the excellent Spain that see Pau on the bench .
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Regards New England and all the hype.
Well this Carsley guy now as coach doesn't strike me as much of a replacement for Southgate. Been
If they think he's any level of Luis de la Fuente and emulate him I think unrealistic
It's concerning the young U21 players who know him selected call him 'Cars' as that lead to a a degree of insubordination and something lower level football would do with such a casual, informal approach.
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(H) Pau Torres V (A) Nedeljković D 0-0
(H)John McGinn V Poland L 2-3
(H) Gauci V Bahrain L 0-1
(H) Maatsen V North Macedonia U21 5-0 win
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Neither Pau Torres nor Gauci got on.
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Neither Pau Torres nor Gauci got on.
Yes in those matches they didn't have any playing time.
For the record the other 3 did play the games.
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Rogers and Philogene U21s
BBC Sport is to broadcast Uefa European Under-21 Championship qualifier between Northern Ireland and England live on BBC iPlayer and the BBC Sport website and app.
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Central midfield pair for Belgium
Tielemans scored and Onana played 3-1 V Israel
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In the 0-0 draw v Spain Nedeljković was up against Nico Williams for 82 mins. Then faced Feran Torres. Kosta put in a solid performance overall. Indeed stopped the brilliant Spain from scoring.
Playing as wing back he actually had a chance to score himself after a counter by Serbia but he completely fluffed it and didn't even hit the target.
Even though Williams got better of Nedeljković at times and failed to stop crosses he did manage to compete very well and that's super promising.
I think Nedeljković will become a great player has so many attributes and getting great experience
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Isn’t there an international football thread over on the other side.-
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Where? this is the only international thread for 24/25
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There's a general "International Football" stickied in Other Football that's been good enough for hundreds of users over several years.
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I belive this thread is specifically for Villa players on internal duty rather than international football in general.
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There's a general "International Football" stickied in Other Football that's been good enough for hundreds of users over several years.
This is what happens when AI starts taking over.
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It's ok. This thread is brilliant for those who want to use it for international duty watch . If not then stick to own methods of where want to discuss.
Having this option can only be a good thing for clear and precise international matches
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The great Youri Tielemans goal for Belgium other day . Has such a pure strike on him.
Youri goal at around 3m10 on match highlights
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It's ok. This thread is brilliant for those who want to use it for international duty watch . If not then stick to own methods of where want to discuss.
Having this option can only be a good thing for clear and precise international matches
Stick to own methods such as posting in the international football thread. Thanks.
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Jhon Duran came on 71minute after recently going down a goal and made a huge difference as offered physical presence in attack
He made headers shots and he created the goal from a James corner and Luiz Diaz headed in. A Duran assist no less.
He's starting to perform for Club and country.
What a striker he is!
(A)Duran V Peru 1-1 draw
From 7min for specific international duty watch of the great Duran
Including his assist.
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It's ok. This thread is brilliant for those who want to use it for international duty watch . If not then stick to own methods of where want to discuss.
Having this option can only be a good thing for clear and precise international matches
Stick to own methods such as posting in the international football thread. Thanks.
Well I'm not sure where that is and this is relevancy to Aston Villa players.
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There's a general "International Football" stickied in Other Football that's been good enough for hundreds of users over several years.
Having seen this information. I'm not prepared to go off venturing off main discussion board generally
Also in other threads theres major tendency people to write on non relevant Villa players and matches this thread attempts not to do that.
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There's a general "International Football" stickied in Other Football that's been good enough for hundreds of users over several years.
Having seen this information. I'm not prepared to go off venturing off main discussion board generally
Also in other threads theres major tendency people to write on non relevant Villa players and matches this thread attempts not to do that.
Something wrong FV
Normally you no write so bad English. What happens?
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Now for those who are prepared to discuss .
John McGinn, Tielemans and Onana would all get into the England squad and I would say 2 of the 3 are potential England starters if they were English.
McGinn is playing tonight Vs Portugal and another great test for him.
When on form McGinn is up there with the best midfielders from Britain if not the best in Premier league excluding overseas players.
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Now for those who are prepared to discuss .
John McGinn, Tielemans and Onana would all get into the England squad and I would say 2 of the 3 are potential England starters if they were English.
McGinn is playing tonight Vs Portugal and another great test for him.
When on form McGinn is up there with the best midfielders from Britain if not the best in Premier league excluding overseas players.
Not one of them would start for England and I am not sure 2 of them would even make the squad.
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I would very much argue that the place next to Rice isn't nailed down at all and that Onana could fill it just as much as any other England player we have.
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I would very much argue that the place next to Rice isn't nailed down at all and that Onana could fill it just as much as any other England player we have.
I'd even go as far as to say that he's exactly the sort of player England need there, just like he was for us.
In other international news Le Normand was sent off for Spain after twenty minutes, and Torres still watched the whole match from the bench.
So although he's back in the squad, it doesn't seem like he's going to be appearing much for the foreseeable.
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Our most vital player, imo, played about 30 mins in 6 games at the Euros despite Kane being about 400 years old. Even Toney was preferred ahead of him.
We don't value Villa players the same way as others do. Same as any clubs fans with their players tbf.
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So although he's back in the squad, it doesn't seem like he's going to be appearing much for the foreseeable.
Tough on him but ideal for us. If we're a club where players will get the international call up, it's an added attraction for potential transfers, but we aren't responsible for them not playing, and they can't get injured on the bench.
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Our most vital player, imo, played about 30 mins in 6 games at the Euros despite Kane being about 400 years old. Even Toney was preferred ahead of him.
We don't value Villa players the same way as others do. Same as any clubs fans with their players tbf.
Still doesn't apply to Onana, he'd be perfect alongside Rice and better than any other player England have for that specific position.
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Now for those who are prepared to discuss .
John McGinn, Tielemans and Onana would all get into the England squad and I would say 2 of the 3 are potential England starters if they were English.
McGinn is playing tonight Vs Portugal and another great test for him.
When on form McGinn is up there with the best midfielders from Britain if not the best in Premier league excluding overseas players.
Not one of them would start for England and I am not sure 2 of them would even make the squad.
Our most vital player, imo, played about 30 mins in 6 games at the Euros despite Kane being about 400 years old. Even Toney was preferred ahead of him.
We don't value Villa players the same way as others do. Same as any clubs fans with their players tbf.
Still doesn't apply to Onana, he'd be perfect alongside Rice and better than any other player England have for that specific position.
McGinn better than Gallagher
Onana and Tielemans are better than Mainoo
Rice only one ahead or on par but then can you trust him not to kick ball away for a booking !
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Let's see how Belgian midfield/ Villa midfield gets on against France tonight
Think they would do better than an English midfield
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Digne, Tielemans and Onana all start in the France vs Belgium game.
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Digne, Tielemans and Onana all start in the France vs Belgium game.
Good news will be fascinating match.
This is what we're talking about!
The game can be seen YouTube
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Illing Jr and Rogers both start for England Under 21's.
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Digne, Tielemans and Onana all start in the France vs Belgium game.
Good news will be fascinating match.
This is what we're talking about!
The game can be seen YouTube
Keep an eye on them and don't let them get injured, please, mate.
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Digne booked after getting into pushing match with Openida also carded.
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Rogers playing left sided forward in attack under 21s this evening
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I thought he wasn’t going to get near the pitch?
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Rogers playing left sided forward in attack under 21s this evening
And scores from a well taken penalty
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Morgan Rogers England under 21 match
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Digne booked after getting into pushing match with Openida also carded.
Tielemans booked.
If Onana does then full Villa set. Can hope coaches to take them all off after they have little run out but then spared.
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Tielemans down injured after a hefty clash of the knees with Kone. Should be okay to carry on after treatment, but may be a bit sore after it.
Would you care to make use of this thread for such discussion. Afterall it's why it's here . To discuss specific Villa players on international duty.
Other games is all a bit passe for discussion on Villa players
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Tielemans down injured after a hefty clash of the knees with Kone. Should be okay to carry on after treatment, but may be a bit sore after it.
Would you care to make use of this thread for such discussion. Afterall it's why it's here . To discuss specific Villa players on international duty.
Other games is all a bit passe for discussion on Villa players
Would I care to..? No, not really.
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Player watch today sees Duran V Martinez Colombia V Argentina this evening
Home tie for Konsa starts this evening V Finland
Already taken place today Gauci V Indonesia 0-0 though he is a goalkeeper understudy and was again on the bench for Australia.
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Konsa starts for England v Finland. It's unlikely he'll need to be at his best defensively against such opposition. Hopefully he can put in an assured performance, showcase his passing, and most importantly doesn't get injured.
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Durán and Martinez starting Colombia vs Argentina game.
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Konsa starts for England v Finland. It's unlikely he'll need to be at his best defensively against such opposition. Hopefully he can put in an assured performance, showcase his passing, and most importantly doesn't get injured.
Woops.
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At least he didn't appear to be limping when he left the field so presumably just a precaution.
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Durán and Martinez starting Colombia vs Argentina game.
Club calling it Durans Colombia!
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/11/durans-colombia-down-argentina/
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Emiliano Martinez will miss Argentina's next two games after being banned by Fifa for "offensive behaviour".
He will miss the October qualifiers against Venezuela and Bolivia in October.
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Nice little break. I'm sure they'll still qualify.
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England Squad nations league
Watkins and Konsa
10th Oct Greece home
13 Oct Finland away
France Call up Lucas Digne he has two matches as FIFA have opted not to suspend Israel
10th Israel away played in Hungary
14th Belgium home
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Nations League news
Tielemans and Onana have been named in the Belgian Squad.
10th Oct Vs Italy away
14th Oct Vs France home
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Pau Torres named in Spain squad
Two Home Matches
Sat 12th Oct Vs Denmark
Tues 15th Vs Serbia
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Sub Rogers in injury time tomorrow and drop him out of u21’s…pointless waste of his energy…full squad or do one England
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Think Konsa should pull out of internationals after coming off injured v Man Utd today.
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With Kane out Watkins is next to start as striker but he's not and it's rather insulting to Watkins not to play a recognised striker for the England Greece match
He's on the bench.
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Tielemans starts and captains Belgium tonight Vs Italy
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I went to see England last night it wasn't very good.
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I think Watkins had one chance when he came on but he didn't make to even hit the target.
He played a part in the equaliser and is very unfortunate not to have started the match because it made no sense whatsoever.
Anyway I wonder if he'll start against Finland.
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Ollie Watkins is used to elite level coaching from Unai Emery. Carsley is complete shite and is no good for Ollie. What a muppet not starting him last night!
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A poster on the BBC said,
All day I was looking forward to watching England play Greece, I ended up watching Everton play Greece.
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In a 2-0 Serbia win v Switzerland Nedeljković played 71 minutes at right wing-back and was booked
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Colombia play Chile on Tuesday and Jhon Duran likely to be starting
He was suspended for Bolivia match other day but back available for this home tie.
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Tielemans and Digne meet in nations league
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/october/14/Tielemans-and-Digne-meet-in-Nations-League/
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Yesterday all the papers were talking of Guardiola taking over England today its just been announced that Tuchel is going to be the new England manager!
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Colombia play Chile on Tuesday and Jhon Duran likely to be starting
He was suspended for Bolivia match other day but back available for this home tie.
Duran has recently come on as a sub v Chilie he didn't start the match
Colombia leading 2-0
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Durán goal, 3-0.
https://x.com/NathanJoyes1/status/1846315087570911458
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Durán goal, 3-0.
https://x.com/NathanJoyes1/status/1846315087570911458
Pleased for him showing it on international and club level.
Super stuff.
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Big Jhon is going to be pretty special isn't he? He's exceptional at striking the ball cleanly and his eye for goal is superb. We have a player on our hands.
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Big Jhon is going to be pretty special isn't he? He's exceptional at striking the ball cleanly and his eye for goal is superb. We have a player on our hands.
I love that both Watkins and Duran don't even need to play 90 mins to show what they can do!
Two high quality international strikers .
Special times at Villa!
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20th and 23rd Nation League play off and quarter finals
play off 2 leg matches:
Belgium v Ukraine (Tielemans, Onana?)
Greece v Scotland (McGinn)
Uefa nations league quarter final matches 2 legs:
Croatia v France (Digne. Disasi? Kamara?)
Netherlands v Spain (Malen, Maatsen? Pau Torres? Asensio?)
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World Cup qualifying
England home to albania 21st and latvia 24th
Watkins, Konsa, Rogers, Rashford? Mings ? have two home games
Cash has 2 home matches for Poland Lithuania and Malta
Emi Martinez Argentina play away 21st Uruguay and home Brazil 26th
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The squad travel to Dubai for warm weather training after the Brentford game. The training camp will continue through the international break for those who aren't called up.
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The squad travel to Dubai for warm weather training after the Brentford game. The training camp will continue through the international break for those who aren't called up.
Do you mean after Brugge?
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The squad travel to Dubai for warm weather training after the Brentford game. The training camp will continue through the international break for those who aren't called up.
Do you mean after Brugge?
Hah! Good point. Put that down to starting to talk about the international break already.
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Be interesting to see how many of the core squad of 23 get called up. Might only be 8:
Emi, Olsen, Digne, Konsa, Youri, SJM, Rogers, Watkins.
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You don't think Rashford will get the call?
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You don't think Rashford will get the call?
He's not really done enough yet to justify a recall, has he?
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Are some players injured though? He might get a training squad call up, if not making the actual team.
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Don't see why you wouldn't call up someone who is playing better and would be more use for the future - Gittens? Nwaneri?
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I read earlier that Tuchel has made a long list of over 50 players that he's going to 'whittle' down to 25 (or whatever the squad size is).
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It all depends on if Tuchel is bothered about bringing through youngsters if he is only here for another 16 months. If they're good enough, they're old enough, though, in my humble opinion.
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Be interesting to see how many of the core squad of 23 get called up. Might only be 8:
Emi, Olsen, Digne, Konsa, Youri, SJM, Rogers, Watkins.
Be surprised if Kamara isn't in. Deschamps likes him and he was in pretty regularly pre-injury.
They're fucking mental if he isn't tbh.
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Be interesting to see how many of the core squad of 23 get called up. Might only be 8:
Emi, Olsen, Digne, Konsa, Youri, SJM, Rogers, Watkins.
Be surprised if Kamara isn't in. Deschamps likes him and he was in pretty regularly pre-injury.
They're fucking mental if he isn't tbh.
Always got the opposite feeling, Deschamps doesn’t really rate him, he prefers Zaïre-Emery, and Bouba’s move to Villa wasn’t very well received.
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Has France ever liked the Villa?
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The other day Watkins revealed he was one of the 55 .
that’s 55 players that Tuchel has spoken with.
on friday squad announcement is made.
regards england i suspect Watkins and Konsa and possibly Ramsey
Mings more likely than Rashford but would say two or three are going to be drafted in initial roster .
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Rogers must have a chance as well.
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Rogers must have a chance as well.
Yes Would think so.
I did actually mean Rogers not Ramsey!
as well. I got confused. Yes definitely Rogers. Ramsey not so much though he is good enough.
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Well 55 means some are not being taken but Tuchel wanted to let certain ones know personally. So hopefully they are all stopping home.
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Tuchel was at the recent Palace vs Villa match. We were shyte.
Could be a blessing in disguise.
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Good point. Although Rogers and (arguably) Watkins did their jobs well enough. Probably bad news for Konsa though.
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Rather be called up initially and then have to leave squad because of injury precautions or illness than be called up as second chancellors.
There is inevitably some drop outs and with us being a main player fighting on fronts would imagine be pulled out.
can be argued these qualifiers are of less significance and given one of the opposing national teams won’t put up much fight expect drop outs after the Albanians.
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Good point. Although Rogers and (arguably) Watkins did their jobs well enough. Probably bad news for Konsa though.
If Rogers was not called up to seniors and just under 21 duty i’m sure Emery will arrange that he’s not to be called as it’s poor selection
but also if Grealish was called up ahead of Rogers ,which I seriously doubt , then that too would be poor selection.
Rogers would be fine under Tuchel.
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Rogers will definitely be in the senior squad.
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Disasi should be in the France squad on his last performance !
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Disasi should be in the France squad on his last performance !
France have more strength at centre-back than pretty much any other country in the world. None of Kounde, Saliba, Konate and Upamecano are going to be moving on any time soon, and there are another half dozen in the queue before Disasi gets another look in.
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Digne in French squad. No Kamara or Disasi. Their forward options are just insane btw, favourites for the next WC I reckon.
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I think Tuchel should leave out all the potential Villa players as they're not good enough for England. All range from bang average to crap.
Put your feet up lads.
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Digne in French squad. No Kamara or Disasi.
Hopefully he won't get too much game time and will enjoy a few days back home.
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Has France ever liked the Villa?
Of course. They even named a band after us.
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Has France ever liked the Villa?
Of course. They even named a band after us.
They also named their second city in honour of our crest.
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You don't think Rashford will get the call?
He's not really done enough yet to justify a recall, has he?
Rashy gets the call!
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The big news comes as much from the absences, as from those who have got the nod. Ollie Watkins isn't in this squad, which is a huge surprise, but he did pick up a knock in Europe midweek.
Konsa and Rogers have also been called up and will also be players to watch on international duty.
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Rogers will definitely be in the senior squad.
Indeed he has and rightly so ! Good call Dave!
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I read earlier that Tuchel has made a long list of over 50 players that he's going to 'whittle' down to 25 (or whatever the squad size is).
Watkins deserves to be in ahead of Solanke who has barely been fit.
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But he's fit at the moment. Whereas Watkins is injured.
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20th and 23rd Nation League play off and quarter finals
play off 2 leg matches:
Belgium v Ukraine (Tielemans, Onana?)
Greece v Scotland (McGinn)
Uefa nations league quarter final matches 2 legs:
Croatia v France (Digne. Disasi? Kamara?)
Netherlands v Spain (Malen, Maatsen? Pau Torres? Asensio?)
Confirmed Players to watch for nations league matches 4
Belgium Tielemans
Scotland McGinn
France Digne
Netherlands Malen
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Pleased for Rashford . Feel Konsa is a bit lucky with the call up.
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But he's fit at the moment. Whereas Watkins is injured.
Oh I think Emery has steeped in as well. Watkins has been openly saying before announcements (but before his injury ) he was hoping to be included in England squad
So yes best for Club that Ollie to rest and recover.
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curtis jones shouldn’t be on england squad he would not get anywhere near the french , spanish , german midfields there must be a lack of talent for midfielders with he and henderson being included.
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curtis jones shouldn’t be on england squad he would not get anywhere near the french , spanish , german midfields there must be a lack of talent for midfielders with he and henderson being included.
Rico Lewis is another who has somehow been capped . Nurse !!
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curtis jones shouldn’t be on england squad he would not get anywhere near the french , spanish , german midfields there must be a lack of talent for midfielders with he and henderson being included.
Rico Lewis is another who has somehow been capped . Nurse !!
And the plodder who goes by first name Big .
Dan Burn
How is Mingsy not there on what basis ?! now i’ve had a full look at the squad!
Big Dan Burn is a left footed centre back.
Hes no where near as good or cultured as Mings.
And Ty is playing champions league football and shown he’s capable at international level previously.
Tucksel has talked about leaders and professionalism of Henderson well Mings is up there for that.
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Ian Maatsen and Lamare Bogarde have both been called-up to the Netherlands U21s squad
Andres Garcia called up to the Spain U21s for the first time.
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Andres Garcia called up to the Spain U21s for the first time.
Good for him and well-deserved, even if it's another example of big club bias.
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Only Youri with Belgium so at least Onana can go to Dubai and hopefully get fitter.
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Steve McClaren has called up Leon Bailey for Jamaica World Cup qualifiers.
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international duty:
GK: Martinez and Olsen
Defenders: Konsa, Digne, Cash, Garcia, Maatsen
Midfielders: McGinn, Tielemans, Bogarde
Forwards: Malen, Rashford, Bailey, Rogers
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Steve McClaren has called up Leon Bailey for Jamaica World Cup qualifiers.
Wagwan.
The Wally has already mastered Creole like his Dutch.
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England players are at St Georges and all at camp from today.
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John McGinn believes Lennon Miller might regret saying he could soon become Scotland's best player but has backed the teenager to come through a nerve-wracking squad debut with flying colours - just as he did nine years ago.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx2g1kyep72o
oh the folly of youth.
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Ginny starts for Scotland against Greece. https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1902791490075492375
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Digne played in a 2-0 away defeat quarter finals of nations league. Disappointing result .
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So of the 3 Villa players who do you think starts and plays this evening and /or tuesday??
I think Konsa has a good chance tonight .
Rashford I feel is a certainty to start tonight and Rogers be a bench player So 2/3 to start .
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I would actually start Rogers against Latvia as that is a very easy match and Tuchel can get a look at some of the younger players, goal keepers and other defenders
Albanians tonight will be tougher opposition and be interesting to see what happens not just with selection but performance and the result.
The latvia game is a potential for a hammering for sure though so I think Rashy will definitely be scoring over these two matches
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Kaneywaney will score, Hendywendy not so sure, Fodders could, Solankewankey might get one as a subby-wubby too.
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Chuckle
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Talk is Rashford is starting. That's a pretty good advertisement for Emery and Villa, I think.
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Typical bias, player joins a big club and all of a sudden they're back starting for England again.
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Talk is Rashford is starting. That's a pretty good advertisement for Emery and Villa, I think.
Great for Rashford and us if so. Not that great for England as it highlights a paucity of good attacking options available.
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Talk is Rashford is starting. That's a pretty good advertisement for Emery and Villa, I think.
Great for Rashford and us if so. Not that great for England as it highlights a paucity of good attacking options available.
Not sure that's fair. On what they've done this season any of Gordon, Hudson-Odoi or Gittens would play on the left for all but half a dozen countries in the world, it's just that Rashford's been picked ahead of them.
I expect most non-Villa fans would pick any of them today ahead of Rashford (if he is actually starting, of course)
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Comments on BBC don't seem too pleased with the idea of him starting.
I don't care about England, or international football at all really, but if he plays I hope he has a good game. Anything that makes Man U look even more ridiculous has to be a good thing.
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All that really matters is that he doesn't get injured so ideally 0 minutes but since he's maybe starting I want him to play a blinder as it will keep his confidence high when he returns to the Villa
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If he was in the same current form but for for "them" then i would be raging that he was called up never mind possibly starting.
As his current form is directly relating to a coach who knows how to manage the game and the man, i think it is wonderful and a true reflection of the circus up there being led by a clown.
I wonder if the media will spin it that way ::)
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Did their 65 year old goalkeeping coach get an international call up?
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as i suspected Rashy was a certainty and tried to get a discussion going on which of 3 players would be starting .
I said 2/3 Rogers wouldn’t be .
I also said Rashy would score over the 2 matches.
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It's not a competition.
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It is. There's travel vouchers and cash prizes galore. It's just you've never won.
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If he was in the same current form but for for "them" then i would be raging that he was called up never mind possibly starting.
As his current form is directly relating to a coach who knows how to manage the game and the man, i think it is wonderful and a true reflection of the circus up there being led by a clown.
I wonder if the media will spin it that way ::)
His current form is that of one of the most productive creative players in the league. If he was playing like this for anyone he'd have been in with a very good chance of a recall.
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Bogarde on as a sub for the Dutch U21s and then sent off.
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If he was in the same current form but for for "them" then i would be raging that he was called up never mind possibly starting.
As his current form is directly relating to a coach who knows how to manage the game and the man, i think it is wonderful and a true reflection of the circus up there being led by a clown.
I wonder if the media will spin it that way ::)
So current form of some very good chances and four assists for "them" would have you fuming?
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Bogarde on as a sub for the Dutch U21s and then sent off.
Good lad, wanted some rest in case we need him.
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Can we not call him Rashy - please... I know its meant to be affectionate but it doesnt work.
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Less chance for Bogarde to get injured.
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Can we not call him Rashy - please... I know its meant to be affectionate but it doesnt work.
I've been trying to get the people who sit near me at Villa Park to call McGinn 'McGiggles' for years but for some reason they aren't on board. I also tried to get them to call N'Zogbia 'Zoggles', but again, no dice.
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Bogarde on as a sub for the Dutch U21s and then sent off.
Italy U21 1-2 Netherlands U21
74 mins Bogarde on as a sub
83 mins Bogarde yellow
92 mins Bogarde 2nd yellow and off.
The Dutch had already had a player sent off,, but despite being down to 9 men after Bogey's dismissal they scored the winner in the 94th minute.
Lamare should miss the next game - not unhappy about that.
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Does anybody know if Rashford was classed as a Villan as far as being capped tonight?
Think that Rogers was the 79th Villa player to be capped.
Spuds are one ahead iof us on 80.
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Does anybody know if Rashford was classed as a Villan as far as being capped tonight?
Think that Rogers was the 79th Villa player to be capped.
Spuds are one ahead iof us on 80.
Dunno - assumed as he registered to play for us he is one of ours. He can't play for anyone else for another 3 months.
We have got Ramsey to come too. although Spence or Gray may be called up soon unless they opt for heritage. Not sure if Maddison and Solanke ae included in their numbers as yet.
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Does anybody know if Rashford was classed as a Villan as far as being capped tonight?
Think that Rogers was the 79th Villa player to be capped.
Spuds are one ahead iof us on 80.
Dunno - assumed as he registered to play for us he is one of ours. He can't play for anyone else for another 3 months.
We have got Ramsey to come too. although Spence or Gray may be called up soon unless they opt for heritage. Not sure if Maddison and Solanke ae included in their numbers as yet.
Rogers was our 78th, Rashford our 79th, so we're still one behind Spurs on 80.
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Solanke and Maddison both included. List hasn't been updated yet to include Rashy. We will be on 79 when it is.
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/teamclubs/MostPlyrs.html
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Solanke and Maddison both included. List hasn't been updated yet to include Rashy. We will be on 79 when it is.
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/teamclubs/MostPlyrs.html
That list dosn't make sense. We were top for decades yet we've only got two more than Corinthians.
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Three more when they add Rashford. I wonder if they've done more research and added some players that had been omitted previously.
Also, note at the bottom of the Corinthians page, maybe other record keepers don't count these players against Corinthians.
"Although providing 76 players for the England team, which was their intention,
Corinthians, in seventy of the 76 cases, were the player's second club.
They first provided players for England in February 1882 against Ireland, when three turned out.
It was not until a year later, against Wales in February 1883, that they broke their record.
They provided six players, but they were just one of nine clubs represented.
After consistently providing from two to four players over next few years,
no fewer than eight players had Corinthians as a second club, against Ireland in February 1886,
then nine players turned out against Scotland, and then Wales, the following month.
Then afterwhich, a handful of Corinthians would consistently turn out for the amateur teams
that represented England until it culminated in a whole team starting against Wales in March 1894."
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Solanke and Maddison both included. List hasn't been updated yet to include Rashy. We will be on 79 when it is.
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/teamclubs/MostPlyrs.html
That list dosn't make sense. We were top for decades yet we've only got two more than Corinthians.
This note at the bottom of their Corinthians page is probably the reason.
"Although providing 76 players for the England team, which was their intention, Corinthians, in seventy of the 76 cases, were the player's second club. They first provided players for England in February 1882 against Ireland, when three turned out. It was not until a year later, against Wales in February 1883, that they broke their record. They provided six players, but they were just one of nine clubs represented. After consistently providing from two to four players over next few years, no fewer than eight players had Corinthians as a second club, against Ireland in February 1886, then nine players turned out against Scotland, and then Wales, the following month. Then after which, a handful of Corinthians would consistently turn out for the amateur teams that represented England until it culminated in a whole team starting against Wales in March 1894."
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BV got in there before I could edit my post.
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Solanke and Maddison both included. List hasn't been updated yet to include Rashy. We will be on 79 when it is.
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/teamclubs/MostPlyrs.html
Please dont call him Rashy - it gives me the ick
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I much prefer rashers
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Wish Emi would lay off the physical stuff…he’s clattered into his own centre half while flying out of his area to head a ball & then collided with Nunez while claiming a ball….and it’s not even half time
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Where were Corinthians from, Coventry ?
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Uruguay 0-1 Emi Martínez FT
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Just watched a replay of the England v Albania and thought Ezri Konsa was brilliant at the back for England. Didn't put a foot wrong and prevented a certain goal for Albania. It helps when he plays in his correct position too.
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I much prefer rashers
Maybe we should call him Denny.
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Just watched a replay of the England v Albania and thought Ezri Konsa was brilliant at the back for England. Didn't put a foot wrong and prevented a certain goal for Albania. It helps when he plays in his correct position too.
Funnily enough I just wrote the same of Konsa on his thread! literally! Yes so he once covered Dan Burn who immediately struggled once Albania brought Broja on.
Thought Konsa was assured on the ball and was fine.
Shame it wasn’t Mings next to him.
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Bogarde on as a sub for the Dutch U21s and then sent off.
Italy U21 1-2 Netherlands U21
74 mins Bogarde on as a sub
83 mins Bogarde yellow
92 mins Bogarde 2nd yellow and off.
The Dutch had already had a player sent off,, but despite being down to 9 men after Bogey's dismissal they scored the winner in the 94th minute.
Lamare should miss the next game - not unhappy about that.
Oh no . Disappointed for him being sent off. Hopefully learn from that as he does have a tendency to get booked. I’ve seen him make a few rash challenges for Villa . I do hope the two yellows were justified.
The threshold for a second yellow is usually higher.
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Uruguay 0-1 Emi Martínez FT
Wow Martinez yet again with a clean sheet.
That was a big game too away to Belles Urgently
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36 clean sheets in 50 caps for Dibu.
Argentine GK record clean sheets is 43.
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I much prefer rashers
Maybe we should call him Denny.
I approve!
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Uruguay 0-1 Emi Martínez FT
Any idea who were the CBs? Hopefully not Romero and Martinez?
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Uruguay 0-1 Emi Martínez FT
Any idea who were the CBs? Hopefully not Romero and Martinez?
Romero and Otamendi.
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36 clean sheets in 50 caps for Dibu.
Argentine GK record clean sheets is 43.
Any chance he could carry that form back to us? Ditto Konsa and Mings. They all seem to play well internationally.
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36 clean sheets in 50 caps for Dibu.
Argentine GK record clean sheets is 43.
Any chance he could carry that form back to us? Ditto Konsa and Mings. They all seem to play well internationally.
Konsa and Mings keep clean sheets for us. They’ve even kept two with Olsen in goal. Granted they tend not to do so well with Cash at RB, as most of them were with Ashley Young there, and Disasi was great there v Brentford.
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36 clean sheets in 50 caps for Dibu.
Argentine GK record clean sheets is 43.
Any chance he could carry that form back to us? Ditto Konsa and Mings. They all seem to play well internationally.
Konsa and Mings keep clean sheets for us. They’ve even kept two with Olsen in goal. Granted they tend not to do so well with Cash at RB, as most of them were with Ashley Young there, and Disasi was great there v Brentford.
I love your 'CB-watch', Percy! Seriously, you're keeping us all honest on defence matters.
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Only a friendly but, Sweden lost to Luxembourg 1-0, Olsen in goal.
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Only a friendly but, Sweden lost to Luxembourg 1-0, Olsen in goal.
It would have been 3-0 if he wasn't.
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Only a friendly but, Sweden lost to Luxembourg 1-0, Olsen in goal.
Are we beating up Olsen over this one as well? Isak and Elanga were upfront the useless dorks.
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Only a friendly but, Sweden lost to Luxembourg 1-0, Olsen in goal.
Are we beating up Olsen over this one as well? Isak and Elanga were upfront the useless dorks.
He’s World No. 2 so the strikers should hang their heads in shame.
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Only a friendly but, Sweden lost to Luxembourg 1-0, Olsen in goal.
Are we beating up Olsen over this one as well? Isak and Elanga were upfront the useless dorks.
For the avoidance of doubt, I wasn't beating Olsen up, just noting the Villa involvement in a surprising result.
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Scotland v Greece Nations league play off second leg 5pm kick off
Number 7 McGinn starts.
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Scotland v Greece Nations league play off second leg 5pm kick off
Number 7 McGinn starts.
I can see he's on the pitch. Has he actually started?
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Maatsen scored on debut to take thr tie to extra time.
Malen came on in the 78th minute.
Netherlands lost 4-3 on pens.
Malen’s was saved. Pretty crap effort.
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Maatsen scored on debut to take thr tie to extra time.
Malen came on in the 78th minute.
Netherlands lost 4-3 on pens.
Malen’s was saved. Pretty crap effort.
Unfortunate, as Malen was involved in Netherlands’ ET equaliser, and almost scored himself in the last minute ET.
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36 clean sheets in 50 caps for Dibu.
Argentine GK record clean sheets is 43.
Any chance he could carry that form back to us? Ditto Konsa and Mings. They all seem to play well internationally.
Konsa and Mings keep clean sheets for us. They’ve even kept two with Olsen in goal. Granted they tend not to do so well with Cash at RB, as most of them were with Ashley Young there, and Disasi was great there v Brentford.
I love your 'CB-watch', Percy! Seriously, you're keeping us all honest on defence matters.
Thanks mate. They were so good in that first Emery season. Then in his second season we were so disjointed defensively that the clean sheets stuck out like sore thumbs, and the (to me) glaringly obvious success of the Konsa/Carlos/Pau combination became apparent. That continued in the CL this season and now the OGs are back, looking good again with a centre-half at RB.
I go on and on about it because people constantly bemoan our lack of clean sheets while seemingly not noticing that we’ve kept quite a few when the right combination of defenders play.
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So Morgs and Rashy in the attack are bound to have a goal contribution or two.
Konsa hope he only gets a half he really not needed as Latvia are levels below England and not cause much issue.
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36 clean sheets in 50 caps for Dibu.
Argentine GK record clean sheets is 43.
Any chance he could carry that form back to us? Ditto Konsa and Mings. They all seem to play well internationally.
Konsa and Mings keep clean sheets for us. They’ve even kept two with Olsen in goal. Granted they tend not to do so well with Cash at RB, as most of them were with Ashley Young there, and Disasi was great there v Brentford.
I love your 'CB-watch', Percy! Seriously, you're keeping us all honest on defence matters.
Thanks mate. They were so good in that first Emery season. Then in his second season we were so disjointed defensively that the clean sheets stuck out like sore thumbs, and the (to me) glaringly obvious success of the Konsa/Carlos/Pau combination became apparent. That continued in the CL this season and now the OGs are back, looking good again with a centre-half at RB.
I go on and on about it because people constantly bemoan our lack of clean sheets while seemingly not noticing that we’ve kept quite a few when the right combination of defenders play.
Young's contribution at RB in 2nd half of 2022-23 was massively understated.
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Konseywonseywoowoo plays too.
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Rogers to bag a hat-tick and be linked with an 85m summer move to PSG according to the London/North West rags. Failing that Arsenal. Or Spurs. Or Man Utd.
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Would like Rogers to score on his first start, but hopefully Denny gets one as well.
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Can we not call him Rashy - please... I know its meant to be affectionate but it doesnt work.
I've been trying to get the people who sit near me at Villa Park to call McGinn 'McGiggles' for years but for some reason they aren't on board. I also tried to get them to call N'Zogbia 'Zoggles', but again, no dice.
Is "no dice" what you call Declan Rice?
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Would like Rogers to score on his first start, but hopefully Denny gets one as well.
Denny can be a bit streaky. Hopefully he's cooking tonight.
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Rashy has been put on to right hand side of attack second half of the England game at wembley .
Interesting to see how he gets on.
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Can we not call him Rashy - please... I know its meant to be affectionate but it doesnt work.
I've been trying to get the people who sit near me at Villa Park to call McGinn 'McGiggles' for years but for some reason they aren't on board. I also tried to get them to call N'Zogbia 'Zoggles', but again, no dice.
Is "no dice" what you call Declan Rice?
To original question .
All the players and coaches call him Rashy.
i’ve called him rashy before he even came to Villa.
Don’t mean to annoy but it is what he does get called like Cashy gets called Cashy.
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Players should be just called by the surname , in full .
No first names either . (Eg . Pau) . They aren't your mates . Stick to surnames .
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William uses them and even though this isn’t the prince william thread he does know the nickname of all the players.
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Players should be just called by the surname , in full .
No first names either . (Eg . Pau) . They aren't your mates . Stick to surnames .
I’ve heard our players being called all sorts of things down VP!
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What do people call those English players Paul Gascoigne? and Gordon Cowans ?
I read here there anywhere references as both Gazza and Sid. McGrath has a nickname.
each to their own I say.
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Players should be just called by the surname , in full .
No first names either . (Eg . Pau) . They aren't your mates . Stick to surnames .
Nothing wrong with Pau, it's what he has on his shirt.
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Over the 2 England games I make it 1 motm each for Konsa and Rogers, I'll take that along with no injuries.
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Players should be just called by the surname , in full .
No first names either . (Eg . Pau) . They aren't your mates . Stick to surnames .
States someone who always posts Bellendingham....
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Jamo, Kaney and mobile network did the biz.
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Actually, fuck it. I'm sick of arguing about shit like this.
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36 clean sheets in 50 caps for Dibu.
Argentine GK record clean sheets is 43.
Any chance he could carry that form back to us? Ditto Konsa and Mings. They all seem to play well internationally.
Konsa and Mings keep clean sheets for us. They’ve even kept two with Olsen in goal. Granted they tend not to do so well with Cash at RB, as most of them were with Ashley Young there, and Disasi was great there v Brentford.
I love your 'CB-watch', Percy! Seriously, you're keeping us all honest on defence matters.
Thanks mate. They were so good in that first Emery season. Then in his second season we were so disjointed defensively that the clean sheets stuck out like sore thumbs, and the (to me) glaringly obvious success of the Konsa/Carlos/Pau combination became apparent. That continued in the CL this season and now the OGs are back, looking good again with a centre-half at RB.
I go on and on about it because people constantly bemoan our lack of clean sheets while seemingly not noticing that we’ve kept quite a few when the right combination of defenders play.
Young's contribution at RB in 2nd half of 2022-23 was massively understated.
Indeed. Massive upgrade on Cash.
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Players should be just called by the surname , in full .
No first names either . (Eg . Pau) . They aren't your mates . Stick to surnames .
Would you prefer just “Injury”?
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Players should be just called by the surname , in full .
No first names either . (Eg . Pau) . They aren't your mates . Stick to surnames .
So you will completely disregard other cultures at international events?
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I thought Rashford so it’s clear who is being discussed was underwhelming last night. Had many touches and crosses , a few good cross in to be fair , but should have made more of things when on the ball.
Second half he was moved mainly to right side of attack and wasn’t too impactful.
Rogers on the other hand was superb.
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I'm not sure how you can put Stones in over Konsa after those 2 performances.
I had to do a double take. Konsas last two performances albeit against lowly opposition (in terms of world rankings) have been flawless and to leave him out of England's next game would be very very harsh. He's made the shirt his own at the moment and someone else has to take to off him. I don't see how it would be justified to give it back to John Stones right now.
Guess it depends what happens with Stones. By all accounts he's on his way out of Man City in the summer. I guess West Ham or Newcastle's John Stones is less likely to be a first-choice for England on being fit for 25 matches for them.
If Stones comes back, plays 30+ matches next season and is great then I imagine he'd find himself ahead of Konsa but I'd be very surprised if he strolled straight back in without doing something to justify it.
and in discussing Konsa on international duty I have always rated him better than Stones.
I felt in Euros he should have been playing there instead of Stones.
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2009 was the last time 3 villa players started for england.
can you name them?
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Milner, Young and Barry?
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Heskey / Gabby / Barry all started the match against Spain shorly after Heskey joined is the one time I can find three starters.
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Milner, Young and Barry?
One out of 3. Milner and Young incorrect .Barry is correct…
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there’s been times since with 3 players being on the pitch (not starting ) with Bent , Young and Downing but no it’s not them either …
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Heskey / Gabby / Barry all started the match against Spain shorly after Heskey joined is the one time I can find three starters.
Full Marks Dave !
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Milner, Young and Barry?
One out of 3. Milner and Young incorrect .Barry is correct…
Gabby was one.
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I thought Rashford so it’s clear who is being discussed was underwhelming last night. Had many touches and crosses , a few good cross in to be fair , but should have made more of things when on the ball.
Second half he was moved mainly to right side of attack and wasn’t too impactful.
Rogers on the other hand was superb.
See for me Rogers barely had a kick for the first 20/25 minutes whereas Rashford and Bellingham carried all the threat down the left for the first half. Final ball was lacking quality wise but unlike Friday night at least the ball was consistently being crossed in. Rogers definitely had a v good last 30 mins against a visibly tired defence.
Felt the two idiots on commentary were desperate to lambast Rashford whilst not mentioning Bowen or Lewis-Skelly - perhaps hiding from the ball as they did would have been the way forward for Rashford
Didn’t agree with Rashford being parachuted back into England squad so quickly but at least it’s given the press a scapegoat to ‘blame’ for 2 perfectly adequate victories
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Milner, Young and Barry?
One out of 3. Milner and Young incorrect .Barry is correct…
Gabby was one.
Agbonlahor should have more international caps.
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I thought Rashford so it’s clear who is being discussed was underwhelming last night. Had many touches and crosses , a few good cross in to be fair , but should have made more of things when on the ball.
Second half he was moved mainly to right side of attack and wasn’t too impactful.
Rogers on the other hand was superb.
See for me Rogers barely had a kick for the first 20/25 minutes whereas Rashford and Bellingham carried all the threat down the left for the first half. Final ball was lacking quality wise but unlike Friday night at least the ball was consistently being crossed in. Rogers definitely had a v good last 30 mins against a visibly tired defence.
Felt the two idiots on commentary were desperate to lambast Rashford whilst not mentioning Bowen or Lewis-Skelly - perhaps hiding from the ball as they did would have been the way forward for Rashford
Didn’t agree with Rashford being parachuted back into England squad so quickly but at least it’s given the press a scapegoat to ‘blame’ for 2 perfectly adequate victories
Totally agree with that and saw and felt the same . Sam Matterface and Lee Dixon. Lee Dixon apparently played for Arsenal as a full back about 30 years ago quite what he knows about the modern game.
He was rather basic saying Marcus must cross it into the box as Latvia defenders will make mistakes.
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"If Dixon plays for England, Dixon plays for England, Dixon plays for England so do I"
He was a shit player, his habit of playing safe inside made Matty Cash look like Cafu. I remember we saw him in his car once on a coach going down to a London game, the coach nearly tipped over with the rush of people to one side to throw him the wanker sign.
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"If Dixon plays for England, Dixon plays for England, Dixon plays for England so do I"
He was a shit player, his habit of playing safe inside made Matty Cash look like Cafu. I remember we saw him in his car once on a coach going down to a London game, the coach nearly tipped over with the rush of people to one side to throw him the wanker sign.
Even Arsenal fans couldn't stand him. I remember being in with the away fans when they played a pre-season friendly at Molyneux in 1995 and had never seen an entire fan base giving one of their own players so much grief.
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Argentina v Brazil midnight UK time - it’s a real shame this doesn’t get more coverage over here even on delay replay . It’s on premier sports whatever that is ?
It’s a prestige fixture and thought these days a platform would pick it up .
Martinez will be in nets tonight.
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Argentina can qualify for the World Cup tonight.
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They'll qualify before they've kicked off if Bolivia fail to beat Uruguay. Nil-nil at half-time.
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Qualified or not - they'll still want to stick one over Brazil.
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Sure. Given that over half the South American teams now qualify, I'm not sure why they don't rebrand it as the CONMEBOL Nations League or something similar, and give a trophy to the team that comes top. It would, at least, reduce the number of dead rubbers a bit.
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England are set to play their next home World Cup qualifier at Villa Park in September.
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Question When was the last time England played at Villa Park ?
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England 0 Netherlands 0, friendly in February 2005.
Last competitive game: England 2 Wales 2, Home International Championship, November 1958.
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England 0 Netherlands 0, friendly in February 2005.
Last competitive game: England 2 Wales 2, Home International Championship, November 1958.
thank you.
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Qualified or not - they'll still want to stick one over Brazil.
Ok Did you know the last time Argentina defeated Brazil at home was in June 2005!
Virtually Twenty Years!
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Looks like they beat them at Boca Juniors' ground in 2012, but lost on penalties after the two-legged tie finished level on aggregate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Supercl%C3%A1sico_de_las_Am%C3%A9ricas