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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on May 03, 2014, 04:52:57 PM
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Job done.
Considering how weak a team we put out, that wasn't bad at all.
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thank god for that, lets get all the shit out of the club
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And breathe
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Thank God for that, played pretty well considering. Weimann is clearly a centre forward and Bowery did well. I don't think there's a long term future for Bowery at Villa, but performed today. Well done Villa, what a relief.
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A convincing win! Why couldn't we have played like that all season? UTV!
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Thank fuck for that, I can relax for the next 8 hours over the Atlantic.
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Well what the fuck do I know about football! Thought Weimann should be dropped for Holt but the boy's only gone and kept us in the Premier League.
This still shouldn't keep Lambert in a job, nor justify Lerner in his view that not spending any money is the path to success, but thank the lord we got the job done today.
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Big positive changes for the 2014/15 season please. I can't do another season of this.
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Delph was brilliant.
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And breathe
You bastard, I've been waiting to post that for weeks.
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And we go again...
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We'll stay up because there are 3 worse teams than us-hardly a glowing testimonial.
Fair play to the lads for the result today-but I hope the summer brings experienced reinforcements!
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Thank feck for that, now Paul Lambert can start to think about making us a better side next season... by clearing out his desk.
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As things stand it's 6 worse teams than us, but your point stands.
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Good result today, another unacceptable, utterly shit season. We desperately need to improve next season
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Fairly comfortable in the end. Hull never looked too willing to press us much. We pressed well, worked bloody hard and won convincingly in the end.
Weimann man of the match. Play the lad through the middle and he'll score goals.
Bowery played well too. His best game for the club so far. Like Weimann, responded well to being played in his natural position as opposed to a fill in wide man. He might not be the best player we've ever signed but today showed the benefit of fresh legs. In the last 6 weeks we've run some of these players into the ground and they've needed a rest, and we've needed to freshen things up but haven't. Whilst they may not be fantastic, the likes of Helenius, Tonev, Bowery could have been providing a bit of impetus and energy, and of course a desire to impress.
Everyone else was pretty solid too.
I'd like to see us rest a few players rested in the last two games, and a few of our also-rans and youngsters given the chance to impress.
We may as well give some of the players like Gabby, maybe Delph, Vlaar etc an early holiday and just give 2-3 players the chance to show their worth. Notably Helenius, Tonev, Robinson. If Gardners fit he could do with some chance to show he's worth a new contract.
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And breathe
You bastard, I've been waiting to post that for weeks.
Sorry!
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Villa excellent today, says Pat the Murf.
Well done Villa. Well done Villa supporters.
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As things stand it's 6 worse teams than us, but your point stands.
When you're right-you're right
and you are right!
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Well done to the players and staff for today's result. That is what is expected at this football club. Let's finish the season well and then see what the Summer brings
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Finally it was a good home performance, we looked threatening and showed some movement. It was good to see, but now the hard work begins.
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We have the ability to play like this against any team 10th on down. In fact we've done it against a number in the top four. There is no reason at all we should have been in this situation in the first place. That said, the worry is over. Let's hope the next number of weeks and months ends the uncertainty surrounding the club and we can look forward to much happier times.
Well done to the fans at Villa Park. As usual you're a credit to the club.
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Kicking off at Memorial Ground. Mounted police on pitch.
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Fairly comfortable in the end. Hull never looked too willing to press us much. We pressed well, worked bloody hard and won convincingly in the end.
Weimann man of the match. Play the lad through the middle and he'll score goals.
Bowery played well too. His best game for the club so far. Like Weimann, responded well to being played in his natural position as opposed to a fill in wide man. He might not be the best player we've ever signed but today showed the benefit of fresh legs. In the last 6 weeks we've run some of these players into the ground and they've needed a rest, and we've needed to freshen things up but haven't. Whilst they may not be fantastic, the likes of Helenius, Tonev, Bowery could have been providing a bit of impetus and energy, and of course a desire to impress.
Everyone else was pretty solid too.
I'd like to see us rest a few players rested in the last two games, and a few of our also-rans and youngsters given the chance to impress.
We may as well give some of the players like Gabby, maybe Delph, Vlaar etc an early holiday and just give 2-3 players the chance to show their worth. Notably Helenius, Tonev, Robinson. If Gardners fit he could do with some chance to show he's worth a new contract.
Why? Apart from Guzan, Delph and Vlaar (when he's felt like it), the team have rarely broken a sweat all season!
I understand what you mean about giving the fringe players a shout, but as for the first team, I'd bloody well do the opposite and cancel their summer holidays!
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Can I just say that, Des Little this evening you are my hero. Your positivity over the last while has been a great source of comfort to me when reading that shithole of a thread "Relegation".
Also to all you other positive people whose belief never wavered. PWS, I think you were one. I'm sorry to all the others whose names I can't remember but I'm just as grateful to you as well. I'm a pessimistic old bugger and do I wish I had your faith.
The beer will go down well tonight. Bring it on.
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Help me. Am I missing something?
Couldn't we still go down if everything goes belly up and goal difference is destroyed?
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Someone has to be the first - We are not safe yet! ;)
Phew! - And Weimann has again saved us, just like he did with that goal against Fulham. Might not score many, but some really important.
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Thank god the seasons over.....
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Also, well done to the Cobblers for retaining their League status.
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Weimann is just clearly a centre forward.
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Help me. Am I missing something?
Couldn't we still go down if everything goes belly up and goal difference is destroyed?
Norwich would have to beat Chelsea and Arsenal and in doing so, reverse a 17 goal swing. Sunderland, West Brom and Hull would all need to overtake us as well. Hopefully Norwich will be as good as down tomorrow.
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Good performance under massive pressure. I think we were aided by a shockingly bad Hull side that have the FA Cup final to think about though.
Delph, Andi and fucking Bowery did well.
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Help me. Am I missing something?
Couldn't we still go down if everything goes belly up and goal difference is destroyed?
Well yes if Norwich beat Chelsea and Arsenal and there's an 18 goal swing...so we are safe.
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It was the perfect game for us, Hull had half an eye on Wembley.
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I'm filling up. Didn't see that coming not after the crap I have witnessed over recent weeks.
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just had "neil" the blues fan on WM. more concerned with the villa than blues." Could have done with the villa going down though" was his considered opinion.
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Phew. I can't take another season like this. Big change needed from top to bottom.
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Convincing. Reminded me of the latter part of last season and us winning against teams around us, well, when we needed it.
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"Neil" must be related to our pet keeprighton .They hate us more than they love their shitty little club
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We are safe.
Norwich need to basically win both games (Chelsea and Arsenal) and turn round a 17 goal difference.
We are safe as houses.
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Can I just say, bloody well played Bowery too. Fought, ran hard and looked like he could perform at this level, even after the unlucky own goal. Fair play to the kid.
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Phew. I can't take another season like this. Big change needed from top to bottom.
This
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We are safe.
Norwich need to basically win both games (Chelsea and Arsenal) and turn round a 17 goal difference.
We are safe as houses.
I just needed reassurance ..... I feel much better now, thank you.
But I'll still be following closely the Norwich match tomorrow .... so tell me again.
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It's a shame we have to wait until tomorrow for the Norwich game.
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we've been shit for four years but it would have been as bad for the PL as it would have for us if we had gone. We're in reduced circumstances but we are still a very big club.
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spuds game will just be an end of season game between two mid table sides
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Can forget about football now until August. . Don't need to worry about the world cup as our chances are nil in Brazil so I can now get on with leading a normal life again now for a few months.it will be like a holiday.
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The world cup! I can start looking forward to that now!!!
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The world cup! I can start looking forward to that now!!!
Indeed.
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Job done, never in doubt.
Praise for Bowery and Baker, they get (quite rightly at times) plenty of stick but both contributed today.
Always a tad sad to leave VP for the last time in a season. Onwards and upwards, hopefully.
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What was the reaction to the lap of appreciation? Many stay back for it?
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What was the reaction to the lap of appreciation? Many stay back for it?
Me and Leeg didn't, so no idea.
Thanks for the lift back Leeg, and as always , good to see Mr Sox and John E today.
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I've been at a friends' wedding all day. I know the results - shame it"s not 100% safe, but quite frankly, i'm on the way to getting fucking battered. Well done, UTV.
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Great win. Thank God Curtis had a shite game and thank God they didn't look interested. But well done to the team for the fast start that has been lacking all season.
And a big shout out for Bowery much criticises but I thought he was excellent today.
Lerner needn't delay his announcement any longer. Lets hear it then so we can plan for the future.
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I'm surprised on the "didn't look interested" comments. The FA cup is still on their minds yes, but they are still an outside bet for relegation if Norwich win on Sunday. I suspect like Southampton, we managed to neutralise the threat and apart from the scoring freekick, we pretty much cut out any defensive mistakes. Clark standing on the ball was the closest they came to scoring second half.
I'm still not certain what formation we started out with but we got the shock (lucky)goal. Bowery made more intelligent runs then Gabby when he came on and setup the corner for the second and made the 3rd. Then we went 4-4-2 and absorbed them before going 5-4-1 to play it out
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Thank god for that.
So Weiman and Bowery showed that they need to play in the right positions, it has taken the Manager this long to work it out except he didn't, it was forced upon him. He also dropped KEA, about time.
Allbrighton Delph and Westwood were also excellent. Well done Baker for competing in the Penalty Box and looking pretty decent today.
Now lets hope that a positive announcement follows because we really do not want to go through another season of worry and struggle.
UTV
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Never in any doubt - Paul Lambert - football genius x
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Well done lads. I can watch match of the day tonight for a change. Onwards and upwards next year please.
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What was the reaction to the lap of appreciation? Many stay back for it?
I stayed. A pretty sizeable chunk did, and gave the team a good reception, and sung songs for Gabby, Delph, Guzan, and Kozak, who was walking around in jeans.
Interesting that Lambert didn't come out with the team, fair play to him. I think he didn't want to risk any boos and wanted all the focus to be on the players.
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Thank fcuk for that. Must eat a small slice of humble pie - when Gabby was subbed by Bowery I had a head-in-hands-is-that-the best-we've-got moment and the lad proved me wrong - he made some great runs and his all round play was really good. Maybe there's a player in there after all.
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What a relief!
Thank god we got the points to stay up, but no more false dawns under this regime. It has to change.
Lerner/Lambert out!
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Surprisingly good performance considering I thought we would lose. Now for god's sake lets forget about football and have a summer devoid of stress.
Hang on! When does the World Cup start?
and once again thanks to the sellers of the H&V and thanks in particular to Leeg who introduced me to John Russell today.
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Just got back to the local. Sunshine in the beer garden and a Villa win for my lads First match. Life feels pretty good this afternoon.
Wholesale changes at VP please.
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Thank fcuk for that. Must eat a small slice of humble pie - when Gabby was subbed by Bowery I had a head-in-hands-is-that-the best-we've-got moment and the lad proved me wrong - he made some great runs and his all round play was really good. Maybe there's a player in there after all.
At the time I couldn't for the life of me figure out why he went with Bowery over Holt but it worked a treat. Well done Lambert on that one.
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It was quite odd to hear my Android football "app" pinging away for Villa goals while doing the shopping. It is usually an "Oh fuck! Here we go..." moment when I hear it ping.
So cheers Villa! And to celebrate, I slipped a few cans of Stella into the trolley in spite of she-who-must-be-obeyed's tutting.
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So relieved, great to hear the result after an afternoon painting a set, deliberately not looking at my phone and praying! UTV! Well done to all who went.
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Fantastic! The atmosphere tugged at the heart strings, especially in the second half singing all the old songs. Plenty of movement and passing, a well deserved win. Jelavic and Long were toss and even making allowance for the distraction of the cup final Hull were poor. I think they will struggle next season.
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The Ian Taylor moment was great.
Hull pissed me off when they wouldn't put the ball out when we had someone down injured, then a while later as soon as they had one down they were all pointing and wanting us to put the ball out.
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Trivia time
Ashley Westwood's goal was the 1,000th at Villa Park in the Premier League (Villa have scored 570 and conceded 430).
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Just home from VP with a celebratory Chinese takeaway and chilled Pinot Grigio. Can I join the chorus of PHEW! and then ignore Aston Villa until August, except when we get our new billionaire and new manager and new proven PL players.
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Trivia time
Ashley Westwood's goal was the 1,000th at Villa Park in the Premier League (Villa have scored 570 and conceded 430).
disappointingly a good chunk of the 430 have come in the past 4 seasons
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Pretty comfortable that in retrospect. Hull were garbage, but we played with a lot of energy and pressed them well.
Bowery really surprised me, he looked decent and played a fantastic ball for he the third. Glad it's all over bar some shouting mid-week and against Spurs.
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Jordan Bowery.............. at last there's signs that there's a footballer in there somewhere. I'm not saying that its a Premier League footballer but he's got a chance of a nice career at Championship level.
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The Ian Taylor moment was great.
Hull pissed me off when they wouldn't put the ball out when we had someone down injured, then a while later as soon as they had one down they were all pointing and wanting us to put the ball out.
No team should ever put the ball out. It shouldn't be up to the players. The game should only stop if the Ref blows
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Nice one..I was invited on a boat trip and went cos I thought the Villa are all at sea. Nice to come back to dry land safe and secure AV will be around and did not sink into lower depths! Whew!!!
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Fairly comfortable in the end. Hull never looked too willing to press us much. We pressed well, worked bloody hard and won convincingly in the end.
Weimann man of the match. Play the lad through the middle and he'll score goals.
Bowery played well too. His best game for the club so far. Like Weimann, responded well to being played in his natural position as opposed to a fill in wide man. He might not be the best player we've ever signed but today showed the benefit of fresh legs. In the last 6 weeks we've run some of these players into the ground and they've needed a rest, and we've needed to freshen things up but haven't. Whilst they may not be fantastic, the likes of Helenius, Tonev, Bowery could have been providing a bit of impetus and energy, and of course a desire to impress.
Everyone else was pretty solid too.
I'd like to see us rest a few players rested in the last two games, and a few of our also-rans and youngsters given the chance to impress.
We may as well give some of the players like Gabby, maybe Delph, Vlaar etc an early holiday and just give 2-3 players the chance to show their worth. Notably Helenius, Tonev, Robinson. If Gardners fit he could do with some chance to show he's worth a new contract.
Why? Apart from Guzan, Delph and Vlaar (when he's felt like it), the team have rarely broken a sweat all season!
I understand what you mean about giving the fringe players a shout, but as for the first team, I'd bloody well do the opposite and cancel their summer holidays!
Ha ha. Well I'd certainly agree a few players haven't really earned their summer holidays. But given we're now safe I'd just be looking at fringe players in advance of next season.
I'd be interested to see Steer get a couple of games. See how he handles things against two big clubs.
I would say in terms of rest, Concrete has earned it and Delph. Delphy's form has been a little off but he always gives 110%.
I would imagine over the course of the summer, whoever is in charge will make some significant changes. A lot of the players in the squad will have to do very well to stay at the club, so I'd give em a go.
Personally I see no use in giving Holt any more game time. Gabby's been half fit for a few weeks now and we all know what he does. We might as well throw Helenius in the squad and give the lad a chance because otherwise he'll likely be shipped off in the summer having not had a fair stab at things.
Lets give Robinson a good wedge of time in the next couple of games too. Get him on with 30 minutes to go.
I think JB has earned himself a starting spot next time out.
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Pretty comfortable that in retrospect. Hull were garbage, but we played with a lot of energy and pressed them well.
Bowery really surprised me, he looked decent and played a fantastic ball for he the third. Glad it's all over bar some shouting mid-week and against Spurs.
After the turmoil of Ads' reign, just glad the players put it behind them!
:D
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Thank fcuk for that. Must eat a small slice of humble pie - when Gabby was subbed by Bowery I had a head-in-hands-is-that-the best-we've-got moment and the lad proved me wrong - he made some great runs and his all round play was really good. Maybe there's a player in there after all.
Exactly what I said to myself.I would have give Bowery man of the match, he ran his bollox off and changed the game.
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Weimann played well especially after Gabby went off, but he owed us something... as did they all. Hull proved ideal opponents and seemed half way down Wembley Way but a good win nonetheless after mostly very forgettable football all season.
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Also, well done to the Cobblers for retaining their League status.
Seconded.
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Thank fcuk for that. Must eat a small slice of humble pie - when Gabby was subbed by Bowery I had a head-in-hands-is-that-the best-we've-got moment and the lad proved me wrong - he made some great runs and his all round play was really good. Maybe there's a player in there after all.
Exactly what I said to myself.I would have give Bowery man of the match, he ran his bollox off and changed the game.
A lot has been said of JB. Honestly my reaction to him coming on was a shake of the head and desperate look to the skies, but he surprised me.
Whether we think he's got what it takes long term is another matter but I don't think Lambert has always done the lad too many favours by playing him out wide. We signed him as a CF.
Today was the first time I remember JB getting played through the middle and he looked a different player.
He held it up well. He looked bright running at people. He pulled to both flanks well and he was tidy with possession. His assist was very good too. If he can keep that up, he may well have a future here because he's got some attributes and actually, though there's been much clamour for Robinson, JB actually looks readier to jump in at this present time.
I was very impressed with JB and to be honest he offered more today than Holt has since joining. Aside from standing on the spot for an unmarked header to score, Holt has offered little. Not his fault, he just doesn't suit our side, and doesn't have the legs any more. What we saw from JB today was an option we've needed since Benteke has been injured. A strong figure who can lead the line, bring others into play and also someone who can chase down defenders, run the channels and pose a threat in behind. Holt can do two of those things but not the more mobile aspects.
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Bowery has played himself onto the plane to Brazil after today.
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Bowery has played himself onto the plane to Brazil after today.
Bowery > Welbeck.
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First of all:Thank f*** for that!
Secondly: Hull were absolutely pants, but at last most things went right for us today.
The main positive for me is that we actually played people in their proper positions, and we got the rewards for attacking instead of sitting back (apart from the last 15 or so minutes). At one point in the second half Lowton acually looked like the player from last season, excellent performances from Bertrand, Vlaar, Baker and even Clark in defence, Delph ran his socks off and Westwood looked accomplished for most of the game. But for me Bowery was a masterstroke and proves conclusively that Paul Lambert is a tactical genius. (Only joking) !
Weimann had his good game eventually and we scored the goals at vital stages in the match, so let's relax and plan properly for next season. Do the right thing for our great club Mr. Lerner!
UTV!!!
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Just back from the game via The Eddy's . Job done , lock the season down and consign it into outer space. It's been a poor season but we soldier on. Well done today to Bowery , thought he was superb. I also thought Nathan Baker did really well, the 2nd crucial goal was all down to him and he defended like an Ox today. Superb.
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... I'm still not certain what formation we started out with but we got the shock (lucky)goal...
I understand 'shock' but why was the first goal lucky? Although Albie fresh-aired the first shot-opportunity it was well-worked and well taken.
And, the starting formation was 3-5-2 as far as I could see.
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Bowery has played himself onto the plane to Brazil after today.
Ace.
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Have to say that Bowery was great today, fair play to him.
Also, as others have said, the Ian Taylor moment was brilliant. There's a pic somewhere out there of him standing up to applaud the Holte, great stuff.
Now let's batter Man City & Spurs!
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Have to say that Bowery was great today, fair play to him.
Also, as others have said, the Ian Taylor moment was brilliant. There's a pic somewhere out there of him standing up to applaud the Holte, great stuff.
Now let's batter Man City & Spurs!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmurgpvCYAAW3Xv.jpg)
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Ian Taylor what a legend
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Have to say I've always liked the 3-5-2 (5-3-2) formation.
It's a very adaptable formation, adding strength to the midfield or defence when needed. It, also, seems to suit us.
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What was the Taylor moment?
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Have to say I've always liked the 3-5-2 (5-3-2) formation.
It's a very adaptable formation, adding strength to the midfield or defence when needed. It, also, seems to suit us.
It looks good if we go on the front foot and try and attack. If we sit back unwilling to try to win a game, it's not pretty.
There's also an onus on 1-2 of your centerbacks to step up into midfield sometimes. Players like Vlaar and Clark are comfortable enough on the ball to do that, and managed it at times to day to keep us largely on the front foot.
I would imagine Okore could prove a particularly useful player if we adopt this system next season, because of his pace and comfort on the ball. He'll be able to step up to support midfield but have the pace to recover against counter attacks.
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Have to say I've always liked the 3-5-2 (5-3-2) formation.
It's a very adaptable formation, adding strength to the midfield or defence when needed. It, also, seems to suit us.
I agree, I think that's the same display we had against Norwich a couple of months ago and we won 4-1 ( with an in form Benteke though )
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... I'm still not certain what formation we started out with but we got the shock (lucky)goal...
I understand 'shock' but why was the first goal lucky? Although Albie fresh-aired the first shot-opportunity it was well-worked and well taken.
And, the starting formation was 3-5-2 as far as I could see.
it did look a foul on their player when Gabby initially lost the ball. Then the miskick but with contact on it to keep it close enough for the prod to Westwood. I'm glad it fell to him though as he was the one player on the pitch I have confidence with to stroke it in from 20 yards into the corner at the time. (Delph would have been on the wrong foot.)
As for the starting formation. It looked like three at the back with two wingbacks but it was Marc who I couldn't place. It almost looked more like 3-4-3 or Marc playing behind the two strikers. It definitely caused us to struggle upto the goal and just after as Lowton was left facing two most times with Marc no where to be seen. Then we seemed to almost go 4-4-2 towards the end of the half with Albie on the wing and we got our two deserved goals and didn't really have a worry until we settled and allowed them to come onto us more.
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I have just read that the Ashley Westwood goal was the 1000th Premier league goal scored at Villa Park ? 570 for 430 against .Can anyone remember who got the first ?
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First Villa goal, I would guess Atkinson. But not sure if it was the first goal though as the oppo might have scored first.
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What was the reaction to the lap of appreciation? Many stay back for it?
They got a good response. Their kids were cute and fair play to them for doing it.
One (1) person behind me tried to get an anti-Lambert chant going but the rest of us decided it wasn't the time or place.
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What was the Taylor moment?
He was spotted in a box in the Trinity Road stand and there was a bit of a love-in.
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I have just read that the Ashley Westwood goal was the 1000th Premier league goal scored at Villa Park ? 570 for 430 against .Can anyone remember who got the first ?
1st Premier League game at VP was Villa vs Leeds Utd on the 19th August 1992, I believe. Game ended 1-1 and it was indeed Atkinson who scored.
Not sure whether Leeds or Villa scored first though.
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Well done Somniloquism it was indeed Aitkinson against Leeds. Gary Speed scored to level things and thus became the first visiting player to score at Villa Park
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I am sunburnt , lovely day to stay up
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A good, positive start set the tone. It took the pressure off us breaking them down and while there were subsequent lapses, we maintained the high energy approach. Job done, deserved it, glad it's over.
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What was the Taylor moment?
He was spotted in a box in the Trinity Road stand and there was a bit of a love-in.
we were all singing old players songs and when we got to the "Theres only one Ian Taylor" it was noticed that he was in a box.
the Holte asked him to give us a wave which he did as well as standing up and waving to us.
it was a nice moment
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I thought Mike Dean was going to give a foul when Gabby won the ball on the left wing, which led to the goal bang on one minute. On the basis that it was not a foul, but it was a Mike Dean at Villa Park.
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Help me. Am I missing something?
Couldn't we still go down if everything goes belly up and goal difference is destroyed?
Well yes if Norwich beat Chelsea and Arsenal and there's an 18 goal swing...so we are safe.
We could lose the last two games with 10 against. That is possible. Than Norwich will have to beat Chelsea and Arsenal by 8 clear goals.
And of course all others will have to do better than us.
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Help me. Am I missing something?
Couldn't we still go down if everything goes belly up and goal difference is destroyed?
Well yes if Norwich beat Chelsea and Arsenal and there's an 18 goal swing...so we are safe.
We could lose the last two games with 10 against. That is possible. Than Norwich will have to beat Chelsea and Arsenal by 8 clear goals.
And of course all others will have to do better than us.
FFS and I thought it was over !
Another restless night ahead
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Bowery has played himself onto the plane to Brazil after today.
Ace.
Specially as he scored as well. Head and shoulders above Carroll and Lambert.
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Help me. Am I missing something?
Couldn't we still go down if everything goes belly up and goal difference is destroyed?
Well yes if Norwich beat Chelsea and Arsenal and there's an 18 goal swing...so we are safe.
We could lose the last two games with 10 against. That is possible. Than Norwich will have to beat Chelsea and Arsenal by 8 clear goals.
And of course all others will have to do better than us.
FFS and I thought it was over !
Another restless night ahead
When you aren't listed on the relegation odds site then restless nights are over, and we aren't. Norwich are now 1/100 to go down. Should I wake up in the night I'm not sure what I will get to worry about.
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... I'm still not certain what formation we started out with but we got the shock (lucky)goal...
I understand 'shock' but why was the first goal lucky? Although Albie fresh-aired the first shot-opportunity it was well-worked and well taken.
And, the starting formation was 3-5-2 as far as I could see.
it did look a foul on their player when Gabby initially lost the ball. Then the miskick but with contact on it to keep it close enough for the prod to Westwood. I'm glad it fell to him though as he was the one player on the pitch I have confidence with to stroke it in from 20 yards into the corner at the time. (Delph would have been on the wrong foot.)
As for the starting formation. It looked like three at the back with two wingbacks but it was Marc who I couldn't place. It almost looked more like 3-4-3 or Marc playing behind the two strikers. It definitely caused us to struggle upto the goal and just after as Lowton was left facing two most times with Marc no where to be seen. Then we seemed to almost go 4-4-2 towards the end of the half with Albie on the wing and we got our two deserved goals and didn't really have a worry until we settled and allowed them to come onto us more.
It was 532 or more like 5212 initially, then 541 at the end. Alby was indeed wasted in central midfield, but eventually the coaches woke up and pushed him to right & later left. But, he was always playing narrow, which is bonkers given what we know he can do wide right. Ironically, Bowery in the left channel was superb to cross for Andi's glancing header goal in first half injury time.
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It was a nice gesture for Villa to wish Hull supporters best of luck for the FA cup final and most of the crowd joining in by clapping. I think they appreciated it.
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Thank Fcuk for that!
Move for first goal clearly rehearsed at BH all week long! ;-)
Heart sank when I saw Bowery coming on, but massive credit to him, he played a blinder and had the Hull defence working hard to contain him; setting up the 2nd goal was a massive boost just before half time!
Hull weren't shit...we worked hard at being better and took our chances. On the ball, Hull still looked better, more accomplished players. We outplayed them with work-rate today, my only perceived weak link being Lowton and perhaps Albrighton - everyone else put in a good shift/performance for a change.
Looking forward to going to Man City game on Wed and the party at Spuds next Sunday.
Well done today Villa, and the Holte End, you were fu**in' brilliant!
UTV!
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Blimey who knew Bowery was a decent player (my guess is Cowans sorted him out).
MOTM performance - Finally someone ran into the channels to collect a ball from one of the backs. Lowton gets fair bit of stick but it you look at his options everytime we move the ball across the back its usually 2-3 opposition players and no-one else. Today Bowery showed for him (and for Bertrand too) and turned defence into attack.
So thats (almost) it for another season of pain but ending on a relative high. Lets get the 2nd string and kids on for city and spuds and see how they perform - I think Bowery with robinson, tonev and albrighton might be quite a handful
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Can someone be kind enough, when available to drop in the MOTD highlights. Ta
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Woke up at 1am to catch the 2nd half. Thought we looked as comfortable as we've looked all season.
Feel like a massive weight has been lifted from my shoulders.
The bliss that has become Villa securing safety and a few months off without all this worry looks to have arrived.
Please sort it out though Villa FFS!
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Well done to the fans for putting up with our awful football for most of the season and well done to the players today who showed up and did the job required against a poor Hull team. Well done to Ian Taylor for being a legend.
Big big changes and improvements needed over the summer. I'm not 100% in the Lerner/Lambert out camp because I do think Lambert can spot potential in a player. Having said that if we don't sign some decent 1st team (not squad / completely unproven) players over the summer we can look forward to another season scrabbling around the bottom half.
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I would imagine it's been said before that Weimann & Bowery looked OK when played in their real positions. We've not seen much of Bowery in his true light, but on today's evidence he may be worth persevering with as a speedy option. Just keep him away from our own 6 yard box.
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It was a nice gesture for Villa to wish Hull supporters best of luck for the FA cup final and most of the crowd joining in by clapping. I think they appreciated it.
What was that about?
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I thought I heard a rendition of God save the Queen whilst outside the ground just before kick off. What was that about?
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It was a nice gesture for Villa to wish Hull supporters best of luck for the FA cup final and most of the crowd joining in by clapping. I think they appreciated it.
I thought the message and the Villa fans response was class and it resulted in them applauding us.
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It was a nice gesture for Villa to wish Hull supporters best of luck for the FA cup final and most of the crowd joining in by clapping. I think they appreciated it.
What was that about?
A message came up on the screens in the ground, and the faithful were favourably disposed towards the sentiment.
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It was a nice gesture for Villa to wish Hull supporters best of luck for the FA cup final and most of the crowd joining in by clapping. I think they appreciated it.
Pretty classy I thought. To be fair to the Lerner era, we have normally acted with a lot of class.
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That was also the first time I've stood on the Holte for ninety minutes in decades.
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It was a nice gesture for Villa to wish Hull supporters best of luck for the FA cup final and most of the crowd joining in by clapping. I think they appreciated it.
Pretty classy I thought. To be fair to the Lerner era, we have normally acted with a lot of class.
Lerner era, Ellis era, every era. Instinctively doing the right thing since 1874.
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Did anyone get to see the Ska band In the Eddy's ?
We were there but had to leave about 6pm when they still hadn't started their set
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Me and the boy lasted the first half.
I took to the Malaga gave pre-season and we only lasted one half, so so far in 90 minutes he's seen us score six times.
He's coming more next season.
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What a massive relief and the first league home win me and my lad have seen since August 2011, ouch, very pleased with the performance, thought we were very well organised and very committed to the cause, lot of players stepped up to the plate today and well done Jordan Bowery, no more of this agony Villa, please sort things out.
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One negative today. I'm pretty sure I heard a drum. We'll have less of that at VP thank you very much!
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Reasons To Be Cheerful Part 3: Jack Grealish's Tweet of today at 6.08pm.
@JackGrealish1: The villa are safe and notts county are aswelll... What a great day to be alive haha😃😜❤️
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Just watching Match Choice on Sky and that first goal is a great finish, what a dummy by Albrighton haha lovely stuff
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Reasons To Be Cheerful Part 3: Jack Grealish's Tweet of today at 6.08pm.
@JackGrealish1: The villa are safe and notts county are aswelll... What a great day to be alive haha😃😜❤️
Yes pleased County stayed up too.
And I didn't give a shit what happened to Blues. They will always be inferior to Villa. Always.
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Only just back as BC54 VFC decided to break down in Holford Road after the game so it, and its three occupants, had to be recovered to Shrewsbury by Mansfields - very efficient.
Great to hear the Holte End in fine voice this afternoon, and congratulations to Paul Lambert for correctly guessing this afternoon's attendance, although that does suggest he spends most of his time at Bodymoor Heath logged into the Villa website checking on ticket sales.
Really pleased for Weimann and Bowery today; just shows what can be achieved when players are played in their correct positions. Worth noting that JB also has a good game when he played in a central position in the Stoke away game last season.
Good to see Dave Woodhall standing on the corner one last time today; many thanks to you and your merry band of sellers for braving the elements over the years. Thanks for the introduction to Mac today, Dave.
An added bonus of today's victory is the conspicuous absence of richard moore from this thread this evening. ;)
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Feel for Bristol Rovers, down on GD and hit the crossbar 3 times. Sometimes it just isn't going to be your day. Unless you are small heath, then it just isn't your century.
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Just watching Match Choice on Sky and that first goal is a great finish, what a dummy by Albrighton haha lovely stuff
Me too. And Hull's goal was offside! First I knew of that, despite being at VP.
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One negative today. I'm pretty sure I heard a drum. We'll have less of that at VP thank you very much!
There did seem to be a drum in L1
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One negative today. I'm pretty sure I heard a drum. We'll have less of that at VP thank you very much!
There did seem to be a drum in L1
One of my sons told me it was the Swedish Villa fans.
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One negative today. I'm pretty sure I heard a drum. We'll have less of that at VP thank you very much!
There did seem to be a drum in L1
One of my sons told me it was the Swedish Villa fans.
Slampas! Only kidding our Swedish friends. I always like seeing the Swedish flag on The Holte and knowing they are here. But less drums please.
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One negative today. I'm pretty sure I heard a drum. We'll have less of that at VP thank you very much!
Agreed, I thought I heard a drum from the Holte End second half.No place for that shite at Villa Park.
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Stop moaning about occasional Scandinavian drums, you old farts. We are premier league. We said we are premier league. Stayin' up.
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Stop moaning about occasional Scandinavian drums, you old farts. We are premier league. We said we are premier league. Stayin' up.
Top bantz lulz.
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There will be trumpets next! Then it will be anarchy!
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The Swedish lads were in the pub before the game and delightful they were as well.
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Ah yes. My post match report is simply, OOOSHHH!
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Not long home. Job done.
Oh, and I'll say it before they do. Passed at least 40,000 Blues fans coming down the M6 in the opposite direction...
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One negative today. I'm pretty sure I heard a drum. We'll have less of that at VP thank you very much!
There did seem to be a drum in L1
One of my sons told me it was the Swedish Villa fans.
I can't tell how serious pws is on this matter but I thought the drum was ace. Picked everyone up during the few occasional down times in the wall of noise. Didn't overkill it either but gave the holte a tribal feel.
It was hardly a Portsmouth cow bell....
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I'll say well done on getting the win today, but 'well done' on staying up?!!!
It's hardly befitting of Aston Villa FC is it? Like Shearer said, Lerner needs to piss or get off the pot, so to speak. And i'd replace the manager either way.
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Did the club specifically ask for supporters club flags for this match being as they were all draped from the Witton gantry?
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Did the club specifically ask for supporters club flags for this match being as they were all draped from the Witton gantry?
yes
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Did the club specifically ask for supporters club flags for this match being as they were all draped from the Witton gantry?
yes
Cheers I was wondering that myself.
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Trivia time
Ashley Westwood's goal was the 1,000th at Villa Park in the Premier League (Villa have scored 570 and conceded 430).
Today also saw the 1000th goal of the Premier League season. Can anyone work out how many games it's taken for both feats to be reached?
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Having time to reflect in today's match...I feared when Gabby went off he was going to bring Holt on, but he went for Bowrey, who playing in his correct position, was really impressive. Albrighton have go say is poor...just don't think he's good enough. Their goal was poor from our perspective, they just didn't pick up the pass and expecting the shot from Huddlestone....poor. But played well and got the poits. Now for some action in the Summer...owner, Manager etc. fingers crossed.
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If you watch the replay their goal was clearly offside,bad error from the linesman. Relieved that we go again and that the lads put the effort in but our relief shouldn't hide the fact that we are a poor side. Hull were really not up for it and it showed by them passing it around in their midfield when 3-1 down. Special mention to Baker his aggression led to Weimanns first and he did well in defence, i wish him well in his playing career at another club. Weimann proved that he can be a player in his natural position. Looking forward to a new owner and new manager fingers crossed.
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Watching it again now, Baker did great in the 2nd goal.
Great header from Andi for the 3rd. A real strikers finish.
Their goal was offside from the free kick.
Crowd were superb all match.
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Not long back. Long day. But worth it. And did include a good post-match Balti in Adils.
Only about the third win son and I have seen at Villa Park in about the last six seasons.
Thought Weimann, Delph and Bowery made the difference. Other than that two poor teams playing mediocre football. Villa were starting to lose the plot I thought in the middle of the first half, and it could so easily have all gone very wrong if they hadn't scored the second when they did.
But happy with the result.
I think Bowery's performance today shows there may be a few maligned players who deserve another season. But under a different manager/coach.
Only downside today. Had a horrible journey up and just made kick off. But too late to buy a last H and V from outside the ground.
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Got off the plane an hour ago. Took me a while to get up the balls to check the result. Very very relieved.
This relegation battle shit must not happen again.
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Well done Villa, now don't let it happen again.
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Thank foook for that, as has been said time for change and ensuring this does not happen again, 4 years of crap is more than enough.
Andi given you stick all season, but today your were our hero just for one day.
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Help me. Am I missing something?
Couldn't we still go down if everything goes belly up and goal difference is destroyed?
Yes if Norwich beat Chelsea and then arsenal and there's a 17 goal turnaround in two games. I'm relaxed.
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Thought the drum sounded good from the Upper North-though at the time i thought it was some fans in the lower Holte banging on the shutters behind them at the back.Flags looked great when i finally spotted them in the gantry-would have looked better on the Holte though.
Pleased for Bowery, showed some nice touches and positional link up with Weimann.And to think most on here would have been dipping their pens in vitriol at his mere inclusion.
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Did anyone get to see the Ska band In the Eddy's ?
We were there but had to leave about 6pm when they still hadn't started their set
Yes, they were due to start at 6.30 but actually came on at ten past six.
Not as busy as it has been in previous years. A sad farewell to the Eddies.
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Great buzz at the ground yesterday. A fair few stayed for the players lap of appreciation and it was well received. Vlaar and Albrighton were still on the pitch kicking a ball about with their young children at almost 6pm, all in their Villa kits, nice to see it was.
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Great buzz at the ground yesterday. A fair few stayed for the players lap of appreciation and it was well received. Vlaar and Albrighton were still on the pitch kicking a ball about with their young children at almost 6pm, all in their Villa kits, nice to see it was.
Yes special mention to our fans,don't let any expert journalist slag us off ,numerous examples of our class yesterday,our wonderful support throughout the game,the good luck ovation for Hull in the FA cup (even though they were singinging 'going down' to us when they equalised) and indeed a fairly low key but classy and friendly lap of appreciation,I think the players appreciated it .
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Brilliant fans.
Embarassed to say it was my first game of the season yesterday but the support the team has got yesterday and in general is something for us to be proud of when we don't have a team to match.
The journalists that copy the near 10 year old mantra of a useless, unemployable clown manager like O'Leary, who to deflect from his deficiencies called us fickle are about as useless at their jobs as pignose was.
Arsenal fans turned on Wenger after one game.
Newcastle fans protest being in the top half of the table.
Man Utd fans give the manager less than a season.
Man City fans turned on Mancini because they didn't win back to back titles.
Spurs fans wanted AVB out because they don't score enough goals.
The list goes on and on and barely a peep is mentioned. We have 4 relegation battles in a row and still get behind the side despite losing the majority of our home games for 3 years straight. That's support.
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We are premier league. We said we are premier league. Stayin' up.
I hope you are not a day over 25? Or just being sarcy!
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We saw the upside of playing young, developing players yesterday. A team under pressure played with verve, it was a bit like this time last year.
It really has been a wasted season. Just about the only real progress has been that some unwanted contracts have aged.
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Great buzz at the ground yesterday. A fair few stayed for the players lap of appreciation and it was well received. Vlaar and Albrighton were still on the pitch kicking a ball about with their young children at almost 6pm, all in their Villa kits, nice to see it was.
See Vlaar gets us. I know he had his critics on here but I think with better partners and midfielders round him next year he'll be great.
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
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Great buzz at the ground yesterday. A fair few stayed for the players lap of appreciation and it was well received. Vlaar and Albrighton were still on the pitch kicking a ball about with their young children at almost 6pm, all in their Villa kits, nice to see it was.
See Vlaar gets us. I know he had his critics on here but I think with better partners and midfielders round him next year he'll be great.
He probably has an ability to relate to fans better than other players. Remember his celebrations with the PSV (right club?) fans shown on here when we signed him
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Decent overall performance yesterday apart from the slight wobble midway through the first half. I sat shaking my head at Bowery replacing Gabby but he played well so fair play to him. Another mention for Weimann who justifiably at times has had stick this season but he was terrific yesterday.
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Great buzz at the ground yesterday. A fair few stayed for the players lap of appreciation and it was well received. Vlaar and Albrighton were still on the pitch kicking a ball about with their young children at almost 6pm, all in their Villa kits, nice to see it was.
See Vlaar gets us. I know he had his critics on here but I think with better partners and midfielders round him next year he'll be great.
He probably has an ability to relate to fans better than other players. Remember his celebrations with the PSV (right club?) fans shown on here when we signed him
Feyenoord
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
You may have a point, but yesterday he was injured from a minute into the game.
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I think your right on Gabby, Bowery provided much more of an outlet and held the ball up well. He's a big lad and pretty powerful. Better control than Gabby, then again so have I!
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I thought Gabby looked very lively yesterday and I was concerned that with him going off, we'd really struggle to create anything, hats off to Bowery, he gave a powerful, disciplined performance and always had Davies looking slightly panicked. Thought Westwood and Bertrand both had fine games, Baker and Clark were steady and Delph played with a lot of character, he loses a mark for the end of match fist pump though, scraping to safety in the last home match isnt a cause for celebration, not in this part of the city.
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
I think that has been the case now for couple of seasons. He has little else to offer. He is not going to be another Kevin Philips. I think in close season may be a move to up and coming championship club for 2/3 years followed by retirement.
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Eh? He was great for us when we got going in the 2nd half of last season. He started brightly, struggling with injuries coupled with a loss of form this season. We shouldn't even countenance letting him go anywhere as he's still an important player for us.
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Eh? It was great for us when we got going in the 2nd half of last season. He started brightly, struggling with injuries coupled with a loss of form this season. We shouldn't even countenance letting him go anywhere as he's still an important player for us.
Apart from that second half of the season line, you could use the struggling with injuries / loss of form to describe him for the last 4 seasons. At some point you have to say, is that going to be it for him. His touch is awful most times and his front running ( lack of) means we don't create as much as we should.
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
I completely agree personally, I was thinking exactly that at the game.
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
A player who runs at other players, causes them to panic, and it leads to a goal? Like our first goal yesterday?
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Nice to see vlaar writing a paragraph or two in the programme yesterday explaining the post match reaction at Swansea last week. He was at pains to highlight he didn't diss the away support but his gesture was more in agreement with the fans reaction to the abjectness of that performance. Fair play to him.
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Like Bowery did for the 3rd as well?
Gabby is on Ł50k per week, not good enough for that kind of money.
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
The game turned when he went off injured. Not that Bowery is suddenly world class, but he did enough to show he can replace Gabby. His cross for Weimann's headed goal was excellent
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
A player who runs at other players, causes them to panic, and it leads to a goal? Like our first goal yesterday?
I agree, like the majority of the squad he has been inconsistent this season but he is still a useful player to have around.
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My daughter Millie with my heroe Sir Brian. He was so humble and polite. Supposed to be a pic but unable to upload.. bloody phones..
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The thing I noticed yesterday, that's been sadly lacking, was players running into the space behind their fullback.
I thought Bowery and Albrighton were excellent in doing this.
I certainly raised my eyebrows when Bowery came on, and I'm sure I wasn't alone.
How wrong was I?
He added pace, energy and some height, too. Well done.
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The formation today seemed to be, 3-5-2 (5-3-2)
I've always liked this formation. Flexible and adaptable.
When under pressure you drop to 5 at the back, when on the front foot the full/wing back play an advanced roll.
It seems to be a formation that suits us.
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Sorry, think I'm repeating myself with this post, may have posted earlier :-[
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Yesterday couldn't of gone better really,scoring in a minute and then getting 2 more just before half time to kill the game off,hull were very poor though! Fair play to Bowery hasn't played a lot lately but came on and gave his best performance for us. Now for a big summer,spend some money villa!!!
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
You may have a point, but yesterday he was injured from a minute into the game.
And yet in that minute still managed to create the goal that set us on our way! Mind you, it looked a clear barge on Davies.
Ideally he needs to be replaced or at least given serious competition for his place to keep him from stagnating but I think he's still one of our key players when he's up for it.
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
You may have a point, but yesterday he was injured from a minute into the game.
And yet in that minute still managed to create the goal that set us on our way! Mind you, it looked a clear barge on Davies.
Ideally he needs to be replaced or at least given serious competition for his place to keep him from stagnating but I think he's still one of our key players when he's up for it.
Shouldn't be playing week in, week out any more. However he's still one of our better players and should still be a key squad player for the next 2-3 years. I think Gabby would be much better as an impact player in this stage of his career now.
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Feel free to shoot me down but to me yesterday demonstrated why we no longer require Gabby. His best asset has diminished and is very easy to play against.
You may have a point, but yesterday he was injured from a minute into the game.
And yet in that minute still managed to create the goal that set us on our way! Mind you, it looked a clear barge on Davies.
Ideally he needs to be replaced or at least given serious competition for his place to keep him from stagnating but I think he's still one of our key players when he's up for it.
Shouldn't be playing week in, week out any more. However he's still one of our better players and should still be a key squad player for the next 2-3 years. I think Gabby would be much better as an impact player in this stage of his career now.
I would rather him now coming on in the 70th minute and making some defenders look like they need a bus pass rather than starting games. Sentimentality aside he's not good enough to start, but I far from want him shipped out.
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Sampled the high octane delights of Hibs v Partick yesterday, in a desperate attempt to keep my mind off events at B6.
Shouldn't has worried. With Bowery up top, we are unstoppable.
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Thank god for that win why couldn't we play like that all season I just hope Chelsea win today then I can relax until next season when we go again.
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A draw will be enough. I think Chelsea will win though.
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Norwich goal difference is -32; ours is -15. While we are perfectly capable of losing our next two games by huge margins I can't see Norwich even winning their two, let alone by enough goals to take them above us.
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I want Norwich to win and catch West Brom now. I fear I'll be disappointed though.
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Doomsday scenario
Chelsea 0-2 Norwich
CiŁy 7-0 Villa
Norwich 3-0 Arsenal
Spurs 6-0 Villa
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MotD (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/aston-villa-3-hull-1-motd/)
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Doomsday scenario
Chelsea 0-2 Norwich
CiŁy 7-0 Villa
Norwich 3-0 Arsenal
Spurs 6-0 Villa
That's more like it!
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Nice to see vlaar writing a paragraph or two in the programme yesterday explaining the post match reaction at Swansea last week. He was at pains to highlight he didn't diss the away support but his gesture was more in agreement with the fans reaction to the abjectness of that performance. Fair play to him.
I never buy the programme but fair play to him for doing so.
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MotD (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/aston-villa-3-hull-1-motd/)
Haha didn't realise Brigada had a massive Vlaar shirt at the start of the match. Looks good.
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Doomsday scenario
Chelsea 0-2 Norwich
CiŁy 7-0 Villa
Norwich 3-0 Arsenal
Spurs 6-0 Villa
That's more like it!
Albion lose their last two games and are relegated.
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Doomsday scenario
Chelsea 0-2 Norwich
CiŁy 7-0 Villa
Norwich 3-0 Arsenal
Spurs 6-0 Villa
That's more like it!
Albion lose their last two games and are relegated.
Please please please let me get what I want...
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MotD (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/aston-villa-3-hull-1-motd/)
Haha didn't realise Brigada had a massive Vlaar shirt at the start of the match. Looks good.
Yeah that was excellent.
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Did Shane Long touch the ball yesterday? Barely mentioned in the highlights which was a surprise to me as he usually has his best games of the season against us.
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Did Shane Long touch the ball yesterday? Barely mentioned in the highlights which was a surprise to me as he usually has his best games of the season against us.
Hardly now. Seemed to be daydreaming of Wembley.
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Did Shane Long touch the ball yesterday? Barely mentioned in the highlights which was a surprise to me as he usually has his best games of the season against us.
Hardly now. Seemed to be daydreaming of Wembley.
He won't be playing there either.
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Strange that considering he can't play in the FA Cup final. ;)
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Did Shane Long touch the ball yesterday? Barely mentioned in the highlights which was a surprise to me as he usually has his best games of the season against us.
To be honest other than the period immediately after the goal they hardly had a sniff. We had a bit of a wobble during that period but other than that we did a good professional job of hardly giving them a sniff.
I am quite surprised at some of the reaction on here. On the pre match hardly anyone had us down for a comfortable win, yet that is what we got and instead of recognising it some people just dismiss it as though it was nothing to do with us and all down to Hull being poor.
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Did Shane Long touch the ball yesterday? Barely mentioned in the highlights which was a surprise to me as he usually has his best games of the season against us.
To be honest other than the period immediately after the goal they hardly had a sniff. We had a bit of a wobble during that period but other than that we did a good professional job of hardly giving them a sniff.
I am quite surprised at some of the reaction on here. On the pre match hardly anyone had us down for a comfortable win, yet that is what we got and instead of recognising it some people just dismiss it as though it was nothing to do with us and all down to Hull being poor.
Every win is lucky and down to the opposition being crap. You should know that by now Chris.
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Did Shane Long touch the ball yesterday? Barely mentioned in the highlights which was a surprise to me as he usually has his best games of the season against us.
To be honest other than the period immediately after the goal they hardly had a sniff. We had a bit of a wobble during that period but other than that we did a good professional job of hardly giving them a sniff.
I am quite surprised at some of the reaction on here. On the pre match hardly anyone had us down for a comfortable win, yet that is what we got and instead of recognising it some people just dismiss it as though it was nothing to do with us and all down to Hull being poor.
Well said, Chris.
For once, the team actually looked well prepared, and they played dynamically and purposefully; helped admittedly by the good early goal. Hull were a little listless but I thought we were in the box-seat for most of the game.
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Shouldn't be playing week in, week out any more. However he's still one of our better players and should still be a key squad player for the next 2-3 years. I think Gabby would be much better as an impact player in this stage of his career now.
Agree entirely - playing every game is not feasible for a 38 year old....use him from the be....what ? He's not that old ??
He's 27 ?? FFS !! I thought, the way people were writing him off, he must be older than God - or Holt...
/snarkoff
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The second half in particular was excellent. I was very nervous, even at 3-1 up with ten minutes to play. I tend to assume the players feel how I feel, but they were probably very comfortable.
As Darren Woolley pointed out very perceptively earlier in the thread, you just wish they could have done that more often. Just a handful of displays like that at home and we could say we'd made progress this season.
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Didn't realise Long is cup tied! Guess he's just on the beach then.
Was thinking that early goal was just what we needed v Bradford but there was no spark. At least we had the spark yesterday in our "cup final" so well done all and sundry .
Also the fans were superb, so loud at some points. We can be proud that we have a ground that can still generate that noise level.
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Did Shane Long touch the ball yesterday? Barely mentioned in the highlights which was a surprise to me as he usually has his best games of the season against us.
To be honest other than the period immediately after the goal they hardly had a sniff. We had a bit of a wobble during that period but other than that we did a good professional job of hardly giving them a sniff.
I am quite surprised at some of the reaction on here. On the pre match hardly anyone had us down for a comfortable win, yet that is what we got and instead of recognising it some people just dismiss it as though it was nothing to do with us and all down to Hull being poor.
Yes but a lot of people need more convincing that the result yesterday, and performance, wasn't because a possibly half-hearted Hull were poor rather than it being a good Villa performance.
We did look good from the small bits that I've seen but do question whether it would have been different had Hull needed the points. But that's by-the-by.
Gabby's 'push' wasn't a foul. Nobody from commentators, pundits, Steve Bruce thought it was a foul and even more compelling neither did Curtis Davies - you watch the way get gets up and runs back and even after the goal isn't claiming a foul.
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That's strange that the highlights didn't show nearly every hull player around the ref moaning about the foul not being given. Because that is what happened at the time.
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Speaking of Curtis Davies, I was pleased that
(A) he didn't get any stick from the home fans
(B) he wasn't any better than I remember
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There were some booing from the left hand side of lower Witton end early on but nothing after that. Booing should be reserved for wankers like Downing.
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Speaking of Curtis Davies, I was pleased that
(A) he didn't get any stick from the home fans
(B) he wasn't any better than I remember
Davies has become on of those players that used to play for, and you couldn't really give a toss about him either way. Kind of like a Coventry.
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And I think that's healthy. There was a time when it seemed every ex-player was routinely booed, and it made no sense.
Mind you, I'd boo that spineless bucket of monkey spunk Downing all day long.
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Long wasn't on the beach, he just isn't actually that good. Him and Jelavic were both crap yesterday considering that in January people were moaning that we weren't buying them.
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I like Curtis Davies, not sure he got a fair crack of the whip when we played for us.
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I didn't notice either of them do anything. The first time I realised Jelavic was there was when he got subbed.
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Jelavic and Long can be very effective, or pretty much anonymous. Much like Gabby and Weimann.
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And I think that's healthy. There was a time when it seemed every ex-player was routinely booed, and it made no sense.
Mind you, I'd boo that spineless bucket of monkey spunk Downing all day long.
True. But I wouldn't even boo Downing. Players like that I couldn't be arsed about. The last player I happily booed was a certain SHODGE but I'm sure my memory will kick in and I'll remember booing everyone from the physio to Benteke.
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I didn't notice either of them do anything. The first time I realised Jelavic was there was when he got subbed.
He set up the ball for Andi to head in his first goal.
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I didn't notice either of them do anything. The first time I realised Jelavic was there was when he got subbed.
My Hull supporting relative was telling me he's glad Long and Jelavic are both ineligible for the cup final - 9 goals between them since they joined isn't brilliant.
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Without knowing the stats I'll bet that 9 goals between them is better than what they had before them.
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Aforementioned relative reckons he has far more faith in Sagbo and Fryatt as a pairing.
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*shrugs shoulders*
meh. My longest conversation about Hull City ever.
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9 goals between them in about 15 games isn't that shoddy.
Fryatt, 1 league goal for Hull, Sagbo with 2. I'd def want Long and Jelavic ahead of that pair.
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Jelavic's barnet was a little bit 1980's porn stud. That's the only thing that stood out about him yesterday. He just needs to grow a moustache to complete the look.
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I remember watching them on MOTD when they were always rubbish in Division Four and had (I think) son of Rioch at left-back and he was captain.
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Aye we played them in the FA cup when they were bottom of the football league and we were top of the prem I think.
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Aye we played them in the FA cup when they were bottom of the football league and we were top of the prem I think.
3-0 with Barry getting the first?
Had a great drink-up with some Hull in the old Archers on the Broadway - good sorts
I know a couple of Hull who were there yesterday - great fellas - work in Stourbridge glass
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If that was the 3-0 in which Collymore got a couple, it was also Aaron Lescott's one and only first team appearance for Villa.
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According to the Beeb prematch, Hull haven't scored against us in the 5 prem matches before Saturday. As it was an own goal, can we still claim that stat?
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I like Curtis Davies, not sure he got a fair crack of the whip when we played for us.
Agree.
He seemed to be playing really well for us, even being touted for an England spot, when he got injured vs Spurs.
O'Neil seemed to bomb him out after that.
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I like Curtis Davies, not sure he got a fair crack of the whip when we played for us.
Agree.
He seemed to be playing really well for us, even being touted for an England spot, when he got injured vs Spurs.
O'Neil seemed to bomb him out after that.
Hmm, revisionism or just plain forgetfulness.
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Some photos from Saturday
http://brigada1874ultras.proboards.com/thread/1321/hull (http://brigada1874ultras.proboards.com/thread/1321/hull)