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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on April 27, 2012, 06:36:15 PM
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Available Saturday evening.
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1 point nearer safety.
I'm now going to be sick.
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Bored ourselves to another point. Shay Given saved us but we have absolutely no idea how to score goals.
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Should have won it. Bloody Gabby and Heskey.
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1 more point should do it. Hopefully.
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Should have won.
Could have lost.
Drawn again.
Uninspiring.
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I don't think my heart can take much more of this.
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At least we have a point. I had serious doubts as to whether we would get another point.
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I am honestly surprised we have managed a point at Inter Oldbury. One mug to buy.
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I think we'll stay up now. We may well not need any more points.
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We'll take that. We stink.
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Christ just about got away with that, great save from Shay. We are perilously close though.
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Well, we've got one more point than I thought we would come the end of the season.
Could've won, could've lost.
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Should have won it, easily could have lost it.
A draw seems like a fair result, we both had blatant penalties denied, and both also had late chances cleared off the line. I'm rather pleased with the point, though every ounce of sweat in my body has transferred onto my T-shit.
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We came for a point and got it. That's about all you can say. AM is such a tosser.
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Should have won it. Bloody Gabby and Heskey.
but could have lost it.
Thanks Shay
Fuck me, that was horrible.
1 point closer to safety ?
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For the first time all season I'm glad we didn't push for a winner.
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As long as Blackburn lose to Spurs and QPR lose to Chelsea, we should be able to see this out.
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As most of the season, we've failed to deliver in the final third. Overall a decent performance but offered very little in terms of goal threat.
MOTM: The Villa fans, load and proud.
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We're so embarrasingly crap I just want to cry. Awful to watch us cluelessly trudge around the pitch. Hutton is a woeful. We showed no ambition either. Even during injury time we didn't push for the win quick enough. Sadly with our manager, it's always going to about securing 1 point first and foremost, more than trying to win. 2 points more and we'd be home and dry with 2 games to spare.
What a load of old bollocks though. Can't take another season of this. Get him out now!
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If we stick with McLeish for the last two games, we will go down.
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why can we not put the ball in the net?
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Mcleish is useless though, of course we didn't win. At least we're a bit closer to safety I think.
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Scraping to survival like we probably will only ensures the end of McLeish. I want us to win out, but it's not going go happen. The end of season cannot come soon enough
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Tomorrow I'll be cheering on Spurs... and Chelsea.
Strange times.
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Should have won if we'd taken our chances but after Clattenburg had even'd up the pen count they should have had another one and we'd be down to 10 men. One point safer.
McLeish's demeanour throughout the game was strange - don't recall seeing him come out of the dugout once (frightened of fans reaction?) and looked completed deflated. Think he's been told he's offski at the end or the season.
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Stay up? We are 3 points clear of drop, and keep expecting the others to lose, when they haven't done that.
Villa form: DLDLD
QPR: WLWLW
Wigan: WLWWL
Bolton: DWDLL
Blackburn: WLLLL
We need 2 of those to finish below us.
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McLeish will be ecstatic with that.
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Despite a few scary moments at the end I still couldn't bring myself to feel anything, that's how Villa have made me feel this season
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Thankfully Bolton only drew. Hopefully Blackburn will lose. We'd probably be safe then. Wigan are level on points with us and have helped their goal difference. This is an excruciating way to try and stay up AM.
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thank god for Shay Given, that save was incredible.
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I think we'll stay up now. We may well not need any more points.
I'm not sure you can claim that, can you? - if BBurn win tomorrow it's all up for grabs.
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We can still definitely go down. We still need results to go our way tomorrow. We still probably need to at least draw both remaining matches, probably win one. It's all still desperate, but hopefully that is another point towards seeing Villa in the division next season - you have to think, under different management.
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My poor family. I would hate to share a house with me and Aston Villa.
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Should have won that!!
World class saves from Shay and Hutton!
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For the first time all season I'm glad we didn't push for a winner.
You just know that we'd have been punched in the gut. I have no confidence in us pushing for a winner. I have every confidence is us finding a way to lose.
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Heve we ever had a side that was so inept at putting the ball in the box?! My god, even by accident one of them should fall somewhere near the penalty spot!
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We're three points off the bottom three and the others are looking more likely than us, we are on ever thinning ice.
Today we worked hard but lack class and a finisher
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a loss against spuds and its down to last day perhaps?
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Oh and goal difference is shrinking
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As long as Blackburn lose to Spurs and QPR lose to Chelsea, we should be able to see this out.
Newcastle's surprise result will have given both Spurs and Chelsea added incentive to win their games.
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Marginally more enjoyable than getting the bends.
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Aston Villa 37
Wigan 37
QPR 34
Bolton 34
Blackburn 31
Wolverhampton 24
QPR, Bolton and Blackburn all with a game in hand.
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Tomorrow I'll be cheering on Spurs... and Chelsea.
Strange times.
I wont be, if we cant stay up on our own merit we don't deserve for results to go in our favour
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Said all week, tomorrows game at Chelsea is the most important of the weekend, then the Man City one has to keep them in the title race to the last day.
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As long as Blackburn lose to Spurs and QPR lose to Chelsea, we should be able to see this out.
How sad is it that we have to rely on teams below us failing to get any points to keep us up.
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Is it possible to place a bet on which team will feature as the last match most regulary on Match Of The Day? If Villa stay up I know which team that will be next season.
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Oh and goal difference is shrinking
Ours and Bolton's stayed the same, Wigan improved but are -8 behind. Goal difference isn't the concern. In fact we are massively lucky it is what it is.
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There was good shape and vibrancy early on but things seemed to fizz out towards the end. Not a bad little bottle of Champagne to watch us win a nil-nil draw with.
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We're three points off the bottom three and the others are looking more likely than us, we are on ever thinning ice.
Have you seen Blackburn and QPRs remaining fixtures? I'd rather be in our position and have the points in the bag.
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Tomorrow I'll be cheering on Spurs... and Chelsea.
Strange times.
I wont be, if we cant stay up on our own merit we don't deserve for results to go in our favour
Bizarre comment, Mr Fuse!
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Another last slot on MOTD,it must be some sort of record.
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If we stick with McLeish for the last two games, we will go down.
Agreed.
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Martinez must be glad he didn't come to B6. It looks like Wigan will overtake us.
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I think we'll stay up now. We may well not need any more points.
I'm not sure you can claim that, can you? - if BBurn win tomorrow it's all up for grabs.
They have a game in hand, we could be seriously fucked if they get a win or two.
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Spurs and Chelsea hats on tomorrow.
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The subs summed it up for me.N'zog, our only footballer to start, was taken off, Warnock, was he playing 2nd half?, kept on.Then a positive sub in the 90th minute.
I'm afraid McL is going through the motions now, could'nt put up with this kind of football another season.
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As long as Blackburn lose to Spurs and QPR lose to Chelsea, we should be able to see this out.
How sad is it that we have to rely on teams below us failing to get any points to keep us up.
Yep my thoughts too, just shows how far we have fallen.
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My poor family. I would hate to share a house with me and Aston Villa.
My family have noticed an increase in me being angry or moody this last month or so, all linked to the villa!
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Re the game, Gabby did really well at times second half, but his finishing was so poor. Heskey did well for me, and should keep his place, he is fighting for the cause, which we need.
Midfield was so ordinary, but then had to be to stifle them. I think I would go in against Spurs with the same side save Ireland for NZogbia maybe.
Dunne, Cuellar and Lichaj were immense.
Given, save of the season without a doubt.
Hutton. Fuck me the man is the worst footballer in the league. What a donkey's camel spawn he is.
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Hopefully we can nick a 0-0 win against Spurs next week given their poor form. As for today, all I can say is thank fuck we didn't lose. Oh and Mark Clattenberg really is a shit ref.
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I think we'll stay up now. We may well not need any more points.
I'm not sure you can claim that, can you? - if BBurn win tomorrow it's all up for grabs.
They have a game in hand, we could be seriously fucked if they get a win or two.
Not so much worried about Blackburn as I am about Bolton. Their next two games, both at home are very winnable. They'll take a lot of heart this week from beating us and then avoiding defeat today.
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I thought there were some good things from that match: the good form of Clark, Eric and Herd; the instinctive defending of Carlos; the early-game shape. I also thought Warnock did a shift, and some, up and down the left.
Disappointments? - Gabby's continuing poor form; Hutton's general play and demeanour; the lack of plan B from McL (he could have been much more dynamic with his substitutions).
As many on the match thread said, AM's demeanour suggests he's already had his "coming to Jesus" conversation with RL.
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Please just get rid of McLeish, just as well try with no manager. I really think we need a win to be safe (or 2 draws)
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I looked at half-time
I looked at full-time
Don't want to think about football until next Sunday (we are going underground during the match!)
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Hutton. Fuck me the man is the worst footballer in the league. What a donkey's camel spawn he is.
Great description for him, he really is shit.
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I only saw the last 20 mins, I feel like I have aged years
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I hate to think what kind of a home Damon was brought up in.
BARNSTONEWORTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What a deliberate handball by Hutton...and the ref didn't see a thing...Classic.
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I'm not confident that we'll be able to keep Bolton below us. Their run-in is relatively easy: Spurs (H), WBA (H), Stoke (A).
Our best bet is keeping QPR and Blackburn below us, as they have the most difficult run-ins, and I think we'll manage that. Wigan will probably finish above us.
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I think we'll stay up now. We may well not need any more points.
I'm not sure you can claim that, can you? - if BBurn win tomorrow it's all up for grabs.
They can't go to Spurs and win. They just can't. All these shit teams beating top 6 clubs. It can't keep happening. I'm aware I'm trying to convince myself here.
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I am not sure I have seen a worse right back than Hutton, he is shocking
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If Blakburn lose tomorrow they'll be six points behind with two to play and a much worse GD which makes one team who really can't catch us.
If QPR lose against Chelsea, they'll be 3 points behind, two to play but last one away at Man City.
So really we need Spurs and Chelsea to win tomorrow, and Man City to beat United on Monday night to keep the title race open.
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Hopefully we can nick a 0-0 win against Spurs next week given their poor form. As for today, all I can say is thank fuck we didn't lose. Oh and Mark Clattenberg really is a shit ref.
You want to be grateful he didnt give a penalty for Huttons obvious handball and a sending off for two yellows! How the linesman missed that Ill never know.
Good Result.
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Played OK at times, apart from the finishing. Cuellar, Dunne and Given MotM. Safer now than at the start of the day, mainly due to there only being 2 or 3 games left. Support sounded brilliant on the streams / radio. Pat Murphy again deeply bitter that Albion didn't teach us a lesson.
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I thought it was a solid effort overall and a draw was fair on both teams. They can moan all they like about Hutton's handball but I thought Olsson blocked Clark's shot at goal with his arm.
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I can see QPR getting something tomorrow,Bolton winning their game in hand,we're still in this. May just need another point,hopefully our goal difference will work in our favour.
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Martinez must be glad he didn't come to B6. It looks like Wigan will overtake us.
That is a rather paradoxical statement. If Martinez HAD come to Villa then both Wigan's and Villa's seasons would have been in some way different. Not to say that we would have faired better or worse than we have under McLeish, just that it would be a totally different set of circumstances.
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I am worried that Man City will fail against QPR, losing the title.
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1 more point should do it. Hopefully.
I'm not going to rest easy unless QPR and Bolton lose their games in hand. Come on Chelsea and Spurs.
*vomit*
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There was good shape and vibrancy early on but things seemed to fizz out towards the end. Not a bad little bottle of Champagne to watch us win a nil-nil draw with.
Oh and goal difference is shrinking
Goal difference isn't the concern.
Don't entirely agree. It is a bit tight with QPR, and could make the crucial difference between whether they need one more win, or one more win and a draw, more than us.
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If Blakburn lose tomorrow they'll be six points behind with two to play and a much worse GD which makes one team who really can't catch us.
If QPR lose against Chelsea, they'll be 3 points behind, two to play but last one away at Man City.
So really we need Spurs and Chelsea to win tomorrow, and Man City to beat United on Monday night to keep the title race open.
Exactly. I think that point today will save us.
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Hopefully Spurs are fine for their next two games then get knackered by next week. That'd suit me down to the ground, we might grind out a 0-0 then.
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If Blakburn lose tomorrow they'll be six points behind with two to play and a much worse GD which makes one team who really can't catch us.
If QPR lose against Chelsea, they'll be 3 points behind, two to play but last one away at Man City.
So really we need Spurs and Chelsea to win tomorrow, and Man City to beat United on Monday night to keep the title race open.
Exactly. I think that point today will save us.
That is depressing as fuck..
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I honestly thought Cammie Fraser was the worst right back I would ever see in a Villa shirt.
Hutton has just taken that title away from him!.....in style.
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There was good shape and vibrancy early on but things seemed to fizz out towards the end. Not a bad little bottle of Champagne to watch us win a nil-nil draw with.
Oh and goal difference is shrinking
Goal difference isn't the concern.
Don't entirely agree. It is a bit tight with QPR, and could make the crucial difference between whether they need one more win, or one more win and a draw, more than us.
A four goal gap is big at this stage of the season. Unless we get well beaten in our last two games QPR will have to win games to bridge the gap in goal difference let alone points.
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I do wonder now what life would of been like under Martinez....a tad more exciting I guess
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I do wonder now what life would of been like under Martinez....a tad more exciting I guess
He'd have been much more creative and would have got the best out of N'Zogbia who was immense for them at the end of last season.
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I am not sure I have seen a worse right back than Hutton, he is shocking
Agree, bet he plays him against Spurs and Norwich though.Woeful defender.
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Although it's technically 'in our hands', aour fate will be influenced far more by other games
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I do wonder now what life would of been like under Martinez....a tad more exciting I guess
He'd have been much more creative and would have got the best out of N'Zogbia who was immense for them at the end of last season.
And higher up in the league im guessing as at least some of these draws would of been converted into wins.
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I've felt ill all afternoon following this. I was dreading every time they went over to Chris Kamara expecting to hear the worst.
I feel even more sick willing Chelsea & Spurs to win but it has to be done - there's no choice!
Alex McLeish really is bad for your health.
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Cutting it a bit fine aren't we?
Only watched the second half, as am afraid I snoozed through the first.
Given 9 - fantastic save to keep us in it.
Dunne 6 - seemed to do ok (for a fat lad)
Cuellar 7 - seemed to do ok too, but gets an extra point for that clearance.
Hutton 2 - and that is just because he got to the game on time. Absolutely useless, can't mark, can't tackle without fouling and can't cross. Think AMac is having a bit of a laugh at us with this guy.
Lichaj 6 - seemed fairly steady, like the guy but nothing spectacular today.
NZog 6.5 - played quite well I thought, seemed to be at the centre of any attacking intent, so not sure why he was pulled. Needs to work on final ball.
Herd - 6 seemed to be steady but not his best game.
Clark 5 - didn't see too much from him, apart from him fouling their player and then getting substituted
Warnock 3 - anonymous.
Gabby 4 - he cares but his confidence is shot. Nice cross for a NZog (i think) shot
Heskey 6 - he is never a footballer, but some good effort today, and actually seemed to be bringing the other players into the game, holding up well etc.
Gardner 5 - not much time, but didn't seem to get in to the game.
Carruthers 5.5 - no time at all but won a corner.
AMAC minus gazillion - couldn't motivate the team to fight their way out of a plastic bag. Clearly his score has been slightly tainted by my general view of how the season has progressed. As a positive, the narrow line up, as much as I don't like it, did stifle the Boggies.
Fans 10 - I was watching on the web and they were right behind the team and in good voice. Good on you, not sure I could stomach it.
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N'Zogbia was poor again today: I reckon we paid £3m for the player that is Charles, and £7m for his ego.
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Although it's technically 'in our hands', aour fate will be influenced far more by other games
How so?
If we will all of our games we stay up- unless those behind us win all of their games by an improbably big margin.
It is in our hands.
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Although it's technically 'in our hands', aour fate will be influenced far more by other games
How so?
If we will all of our games we stay up- unles those behind us win all of their games by an improbably big margin.
It is on our hands.
It's because we won't win those games, we're reliant on others not to win.
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Can we please stop talking about how unlucky west brom were regarding the hutton handball. We had TWO clear penalties denied, Chris Brunt first half and Jonas Ollsen second half, both clear handballs also.
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Thought we were ok to be honest. It was difficult to see all handball shouts as the Internet stream wasnt that detailed. Should of wrapped it up in the last 10mins though with gabby's cross/messed up shot and Heskey open goal. But at this stage I'll take the point.
Tomorrows results are now huge for us. What should of been an enjoyable Sunday I think I'll watch a movie instead and check the scores tomorrow evening instead. If Chelsea can beat QPR tomorrow I think we're pretty safe with a point needed against spurs.
Dune was brilliant today I thought, cuellar made up for is first half gaff with a great headed clearence in the second half. I'm most upset with Gabby. He really needs to step up. It's his boyhood club, we're all depending on him. He has to find that inner strength and confidence to bag that goal or two in the next two games to make sure we're safe. He has to be hurting just as much as we are surely??!!
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Although it's technically 'in our hands', aour fate will be influenced far more by other games
How so?
If we will all of our games we stay up- unles those behind us win all of their games by an improbably big margin.
It is on our hands.
It's because we won't win those games, we're reliant on others not to win.
Exactly. We're incapable of scoring consistently (or at all, really). A scoreless draw whilst parking the bus at home to Spurs next week and a 1-1 at Norwich on the final day is the best we can hope for, therefore we'll be sweating on Bolton and QPR's results. I can't see Wigan faltering now.
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I think we are playing for another two points. We may well get them. That may well be enough. But if we stay up it'll be more to do with QPR and Blackburn screwing up.
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Now it is likely that our new season is not in our hand but it is in other top club hand. Largely disappoint. McLeish Out!!!!
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Now it is likely that our new season is not in our hand but it is in other top club hand. Largely disappoint. McLeish Out!!!!
Quite agree.
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Sarunyu, I salute you.
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Although it's technically 'in our hands', aour fate will be influenced far more by other games
How so?
If we will all of our games we stay up- unles those behind us win all of their games by an improbably big margin.
It is on our hands.
It's because we won't win those games, we're reliant on others not to win.
It is still in our hands - because we can.
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Taken from bbc website:
Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish: "I have had to show my experience and leadership and that has come to the fore. I will not curl up and die. I will persevere to the end as I always have done."
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His 'experience and leadership' has delivered us a 0-0 draw against West Brom.
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Although it's technically 'in our hands', aour fate will be influenced far more by other games
How so?
If we will all of our games we stay up- unles those behind us win all of their games by an improbably big margin.
It is on our hands.
It's because we won't win those games, we're reliant on others not to win.
It is still in our hands - because we can.
In theory it is, but in reality we won't so it isn't.
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Now it is likely that our new season is not in our hand but it is in other top club hand. Largely disappoint. McLeish Out!!!!
Absolutely. Needed to win today. Fair play for staying up late to watch this shower!
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Taken from bbc website:
Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish: "I have had to show my experience and leadership and that has come to the fore. I will not curl up and die. I will persevere to the end as I always have done."
He has shown his experience and leadership, and they were both found wonting. The guy is deluded.
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leadership? more like a wee timorous beastie
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Why drop the only forward who has managed to score this year?
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Well I think we should praise McLeish. It took 7 defenders to start the game to get a clean sheet. A record surely?
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Well, the Guardian match report makes no mention of our two handball claims ...
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Well, the Guardian match report makes no mention of our two handball claims ...
But a big deal of theirs?
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Taken from bbc website:
Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish: "I have had to show my experience and leadership and that has come to the fore. I will not curl up and die. I will persevere to the end as I always have done."
He has shown his experience and leadership, and they were both found wonting. The guy is deluded.
Well it's bollocks but if that doesn't sound like a man on his way out of the club I don't know what does. 'I will persevere to the end' says it all.
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Alex sounds tired and weary. But he will keep right on to the end of the road, I'm sure.
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Alex sounds tired and weary. But he will keep right on to the end of the road, I'm sure.
The only reason you don't like him is because he came from the Blues.
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Well, the Guardian match report makes no mention of our two handball claims ...
But a big deal of theirs?
Of course.
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Alex sounds tired and weary. But he will keep right on to the end of the road, I'm sure.
Yes, but I wish he'd wipe that snot off the end of his nose.
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I actually feel sorry for him. But it's between us and the players now.
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Well, the Guardian match report makes no mention of our two handball claims ...
But a big deal of theirs?
Of course.
suprise suprise!!
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Should have won if we'd taken our chances but after Clattenburg had even'd up the pen count they should have had another one and we'd be down to 10 men. One point safer.
McLeish's demeanour throughout the game was strange - don't recall seeing him come out of the dugout once (frightened of fans reaction?) and looked completed deflated. Think he's been told he's offski at the end or the season.
He came out of the dugout a couple of times; once when Clattenburg ignored the savage foul on N'Zogbia. I think it was the right decision to stay put. There would have been a great chance of abuse being yelled and we didn't need a bad atmosphere for this game. I thought we were in good voice throughout the game. Pity the Albion fans chose to ignore the applause for Stan in the 19th minute. Also a pity when a couple of ours shouted 'let him die' when somebody was clearly in difficulty in the East Stand.
Good point but it could have gone either way. Bitter Geordies lost on purpose. Fingers crossed that our real targets, Blackburn and QPR can get stuffed tomorrow. Blackburn would have a job to catch us then, unless they win their others well and we lose both ours badly.
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Alex sounds tired and weary. But he will keep right on to the end of the road, I'm sure.
And let's all hope that the end of the road is a long way from Villa Park.
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I'm not sure how Alex could have fit too many more defenders into that line-up. We're edging there but it's not pretty. Can we draw our way to safety? The picture will be clearer this time tomorrow I guess.
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Good point DC5 makes about the reason for staying in the dugout. Sad, really.
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A better result than most on here were predicting so a degree of positivity on here is necessary I think.
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I'm pretty chuffed with a point, to be honest.
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Just back from a post-game excursion to the supermarket with the lady. I was browsing the wine shelves looking for something to numb the pain this evening when a jovial red-faced salt-of-the-earth type, wearing a vintner's apron (he was promoting some local wine on special offer) came up and said "Good evening Sir!Well, well! Having a little trouble making our choice, are we? Ho! Ho!"
Never has the word "Non!" been pronounced with such cutting contempt and evil-eye stare. The bloke actually stopped dead and walked away from me. I feel thoroughly ashamed of myself now.
My wife also announced to a bemused checkout queue that "[she] want[ed] to hit me; it's Aston Villa again".
This is all YOUR fault McLeish.
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'West Brom denied a stonewall penalty' (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/west-brom-0-aston-villa-0/)
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I can beat that BE, I snarled at a librarian when she asked if she should renew the books on my card.
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What about the Villa stonewall penalty?
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Fight, fight, wherever you may be
We are the boys from the Holte Army
And we snarl at women in the library
And the bloke with the apron and charcuterie
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Tomorrow I'll be cheering on Spurs... and Chelsea.
Strange times.
I wont be, if we cant stay up on our own merit we don't deserve for results to go in our favour
I will be , I dont give a flying f*ck how we stay up.
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Fight, fight, wherever you may be
We are the boys from the Holte Army
And we snarl at women in the library
And the bloke with the apron and charcuterie
Nothing like a bit of Villa aggro!
I decided to stay in the car when we stiopped at the boulangerie. The fat ****** is a fucking Arsenal fan.
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Fight, fight, wherever you may be
We are the boys from the Holte Army
And we snarl at women in the library
And the bloke with the apron and charcuterie
That's about the best Villa-related chuckle I've had in months.
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Cant be bothered wasting my time commenting on AM, but todays game highlighted yet again that the majority of our remaining senior players simply arent good enough at this level...Heskey, Hutton, Warnock, Dunne, Cuellar, N'Zogbia...obviously a few of these players contracts expire in the summer and hope none of them get to wear the shirt again after this season has finished.
I expect Wigan and Bolton to finish above us so our PL fate rests in the hands of the QPR and Blackburn results as I cant see us managing to get 3pts ourselves.
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Tomorrow I'll be cheering on Spurs... and Chelsea.
Strange times.
I wont be, if we cant stay up on our own merit we don't deserve for results to go in our favour
Christ, what a weird stance that is.
You don't hope results go for us, thus ensuring we stay in the top flight?
I don't think we deserve to stay up, we've been so utterly embarassingly shite all season, but I wish our relegation rivals all the bad luck under the sun if it means we do stay up
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Hate the thought of Villa going to Norwich with them singing we'll meet again....
Like we did to them a few years ago.
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Pretty chuffed with a point to be fair.
Chuffed with a point at West Brom... Jesus...
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We're a grim team.
I suspect Albion gave Hutton all that space on the right as it was the easiest way of getting the ball back.
The picture looks a lot easier than it did on Tuesday. I'll forgive Kevin Davies an awful lot of sins if he lays half the Spurs team waste in midweek.
Wigan beating Newcastle was probably a good result for us.
a) They will stay up anyway
b) It keeps Chelsea's and Spurs' interests going
c) It's fucking funny
Give us a goal or two next week, Emile.
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Fight, fight, wherever you may be
We are the boys from the Holte Army
And we snarl at women in the library
And the bloke with the apron and charcuterie
Brilliant, Damon. Well done.
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Tomorrow I'll be cheering on Spurs... and Chelsea.
Strange times.
I wont be, if we cant stay up on our own merit we don't deserve for results to go in our favour
Christ, what a weird stance that is.
You don't hope results go for us, thus ensuring we stay in the top flight?
I don't think we deserve to stay up, we've been so utterly embarassingly shite all season, but I wish our relegation rivals all the bad luck under the sun if it means we do stay up
Goes without saying for me. When Bolton equalised I was shouting and swearing.
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Hate the thought of Villa going to Norwich with them singing we'll meet again....
Like we did to them a few years ago.
Three points against Spurs and we won't have to worry.
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To the group of blokes in the Villa end who tried to get a "Let him die" chant going whilst the paramedics were trying to revive the WBA fan................
Fuck off you you bunch of idiots. You are an embarrassment to the rest of us.
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Just back from a post-game excursion to the supermarket with the lady. I was browsing the wine shelves looking for something to numb the pain this evening when a jovial red-faced salt-of-the-earth type, wearing a vintner's apron (he was promoting some local wine on special offer) came up and said "Good evening Sir!Well, well! Having a little trouble making our choice, are we? Ho! Ho!"
Never has the word "Non!" been pronounced with such cutting contempt and evil-eye stare. The bloke actually stopped dead and walked away from me. I feel thoroughly ashamed of myself now.
My wife also announced to a bemused checkout queue that "[she] want[ed] to hit me; it's Aston Villa again".
There must be thousands of other halves suffering our bad modds this season........credit to them !!!
This is all YOUR fault McLeish.
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To the group of blokes in the Villa end who tried to get a "Let him die" chant going whilst the paramedics were trying to revive the WBA fan................
Fuck off you you bunch of idiots. You are an embarrassment to the rest of us.
What? I have not heard of a fan needing to be revived? Can you elaborate further?
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What? I have not heard of a fan needing to be revived? Can you elaborate further?
Near the back of the stand on the right side of the ground as we were facing.
A bloke collapsed and was being given the full Vinnie Jones "hands only" CPR by first the stewards and then the paramedics. He was carried off on a stretcher with an oxygen mask on. I couldn't tell from where I was whether they'd been successful in reviving him.
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Now it is likely that our new season is not in our hand but it is in other top club hand. Largely disappoint. McLeish Out!!!!
Absolutely. Needed to win today. Fair play for staying up late to watch this shower!
How did you work that out? However unlikely it is, if we win our last two games we stay up. So it's in our own hands isn't it?
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To the group of blokes in the Villa end who tried to get a "Let him die" chant going whilst the paramedics were trying to revive the WBA fan................
Fuck off you you bunch of idiots. You are an embarrassment to the rest of us.
What? I have not heard of a fan needing to be revived? Can you elaborate further?
If true, that would be moronic and insensitive on a stunning level. Let's hope it's mot true.
As for Mr Fuse's view on earning our survival, take a cold shower son. If we go down then you'll be utterly gutted and will massively regret thinking that way. Every point for us helps and every point the others drop helps. We need wins from Chelsea and Spurs. It's that simple.
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Sorry TV, but is is true. They idiots in question were only a few yards away from me. Well done to one of the guys behind them who confronted the ring-leader and despite facing a tirade of abuse himself, eventually got them to stop.
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Mrfuse, put your dummy back in and get behind Tottenham and Chelsea tomorrow just like every other Villa fan in the land.
And stop being a tart! ;-)
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Sorry TV, but is is true. They idiots in question were only a few yards away from me. Well done to one of the guys behind them who confronted the ring-leader and despite facing a tirade of abuse himself, eventually got them to stop.
Really is sad to know we have such twats following us.
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Never has the word "Non!" been pronounced with such cutting contempt and evil-eye stare. The bloke actually stopped dead and walked away from me. I feel thoroughly ashamed of myself now.
So McLeish has turned you into adopting the everyday behaviour of an average Paris Cafe owner!
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Mrfuse, put your dummy back in and get behind Tottenham and Chelsea tomorrow just like every other Villa fan in the land.
And stop being a tart! ;-)
Eloquently put Mr Saunders
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Sorry TV, but is is true. They idiots in question were only a few yards away from me. Well done to one of the guys behind them who confronted the ring-leader and despite facing a tirade of abuse himself, eventually got them to stop.
Really is sad to know we have such twats following us.
It disappoints me as well Mr Shin.
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It disgusts me.
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One less game to play and we're still outside the relegation zone, so I'll take that as a positive, thanks. Hopefully it's one more point gained towards our survival, and just two more games left until the abomination that is Alex McLeish is removed from Aston Villa FC.
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To the group of blokes in the Villa end who tried to get a "Let him die" chant going whilst the paramedics were trying to revive the WBA fan................
Fuck off you you bunch of idiots. You are an embarrassment to the rest of us.
What? I have not heard of a fan needing to be revived? Can you elaborate further?
If true, that would be moronic and insensitive on a stunning level. Let's hope it's mot true.
As for Mr Fuse's view on earning our survival, take a cold shower son. If we go down then you'll be utterly gutted and will massively regret thinking that way. Every point for us helps and every point the others drop helps. We need wins from Chelsea and Spurs. It's that simple.
Morons, why do they feel the need?
I have had more delight from the teams below us losing than us actually winning and I hope that will happen again in the next couple of weeks. Then hopefully we can have a sigh of relief and file this season away in forgotten memories.
AM does look a man defeated so prey we stay up and someone comes in and shake this club up a bit.
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Sorry TV, but is is true. They idiots in question were only a few yards away from me. Well done to one of the guys behind them who confronted the ring-leader and despite facing a tirade of abuse himself, eventually got them to stop.
Really is sad to know we have such twats following us.
I'm glad someone had the balls to say something despite putting himself at risk. This is football. A game. At no point should wishing another fan dead be appropriate. Every team has them unfortunately. Just very disappointing.
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My Baggies friend sent a text right at the start of the game saying that their supporters have just unfurled a banner saying:
"McLeish please stay"
Those of you who were there did you see that?
I think that is good fun on their part and hopefully another nail in ..........
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Sorry TV, but is is true. They idiots in question were only a few yards away from me. Well done to one of the guys behind them who confronted the ring-leader and despite facing a tirade of abuse himself, eventually got them to stop.
Uk redsox is correct. Absolutely appalling behaviour from a small group of our fans.
Fingers crossed that the person in question is ok.
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My Baggies friend sent a text right at the start of the game saying that their supporters have just unfurled a banner saying:
"McLeish please stay"
Those of you who were there did you see that?
I think that is good fun on their part and hopefully another nail in ..........
Yes, we did. In the stand opposite. It was passed around like we pass our flag in the Holte End. Their fans were singing McLeish's name and asked for a wave.
Shame on them that they didnt join in with the Petrov applause but fairplay to the announcer who, before the start of the game, mentioned Petrov and wished him well for a speedy recovery.
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Utopia for that cnut.More pain for us.
I love you Billy McNeill!
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I'm just relieved that the game is over with another point in the bag.
Didn't think we played too badly (don't forget expectations have been considerably lowered this season).
Had two totally drunk Baggies fan sitting by me on the train home putting the Villa to right. Absolutely hilarious listening to them.
Thanks BE and Damon for making me laugh reading this thread.
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Just back. A game we could've won but also could've lost. A draw was a fair result.
We're still in a scrap.
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Just back. A game we could've won but also could've lost. A draw was a fair result.
We're still in a scrap.
More like a brick shitathon. Plenty of commitment today, but we don't really do scrap.
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Haha, would disagree to an extent Steve N' Rose. I thought we showed battling qualities today but were low on quality.
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Iin the big scheme of things its a good point, we all know this is going to the last day, badly need Chelsea to beat Qpr and Spurs to beat Bolton midweek, think we will stagger over the finish line but god its been a nightmare.
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I am not sure I have seen a worse right back than Hutton, he is shocking
was just about to say that. he is so poor. second half he was getting skinned time and time again. he was also v lucky not to get sent off for the handball and fir kicking one if their players in the albion half when we were attacking
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Hutton is a scum sucking pile of shit.
How far have we fucking sunk to have him in the side, makes me pine for De La cruz.
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Hutton is very limited, as is Lichaj so not sure what our best option is to be honest. Oh for Kyle Walker....
I think that's the problem to be honest. A side that was ordinary last year is less than ordinary this year due to losing our better players from last year. Young, Downing and Walker. Plus Bent, Petrov and Dunne having long injury lay offs. What's left should be better than what it currently is but not by much.
You can also see why Lerner appointed AM - somebody who could put out a hard to beat team that would stay up while selling the family jewels. It hasn't worked largely due to Bent getting injured and I think, as others have posted, McLeish knows it and knows the game is up.
Thought the ref had a bad game also. He should've given at least 2 penalties for handball.
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Steady on, Fletch old man
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I am not sure I have seen a worse right back than Hutton, he is shocking
I stuck my neck out after the QPR game saying I think he'll come good.
I talk some shite, me.
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He had been showing signs of improvement but seems to have turned back into shit Hutton again.
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He looked a world-beater at Rangers. Spurs paid a fortune for him and we were pissed off he wouldn't come to VP
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Now it is likely that our new season is not in our hand but it is in other top club hand. Largely disappoint. McLeish Out!!!!
Amen brother, amen.
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At least 4 times in the 2nd half Hutton had the ball in space and time to cross - every single time his cross hit the first defender.
His signing is a microcosm of McLeishs anti football and our year - nowhere near good enough for Aston Villa
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I have had the best part of a bottle of cheap wine and no longer give a shit. I love Sarunyu
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He looked a world-beater at Rangers. Spurs paid a fortune for him and we were pissed off he wouldn't come to VP
He looked like a white Cafu for Rangers and Scotland.
He looks like Andy Comyn for us.
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Hutton is absolutely crap. I've never seen a player go walkabouts and wander out of position like he does, whilst offering no threat in return.
Plus, he's a constant penalty waiting to be given away. The most brainless player I've seen in ages.
I can't believe Spurs paid NINE million pounds for him.
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Hutton is absolutely crap. I've never seen a player go walkabouts and wander out of position like he does, whilst offering no threat in return.
Plus, he's a constant penalty waiting to be given away. The most brainless player I've seen in ages.
I'd love to see him on Titus Bramble on Mastermind.
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Spurs, what wankers.
Come on Spurs.
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As you know, I've always been very fond of Spurs and think the media spunkfest over them has always been warranted and perhaps even less than they deserve.
Come on you Spurs indeed.
Mods, please erase this post from existence at the end of the season.
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I have had the best part of a bottle of cheap wine and no longer give a shit. I love Sarunyu
You've just reminded me that I put a bottle of wine in the freezer when I got back to chill. I've forgotten about it and now I'm going to have to wait for it to defrost before I can have a drink. Damn and blast.
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I hope England's Brave And Loyal John Terry will once again lead his team of merry corinthians to another glorious win.
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Aye. I also love Chelsea, did I not mention it?
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Martinez must be glad he didn't come to B6. It looks like Wigan will overtake us.
Watched that game on the TV in the pub today (Villa game not available, apparently).
They difference between us & them is easy for all to see... they appear to be playing
with desire & purpose - fighting for a Manager they clearly respect and like... 4-0 vs.
a Newcastle side who have been very good this year (although I think they've been
punching above their weight). We have better players, but MANAGEMENT is the key.
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Martinez must be glad he didn't come to B6. It looks like Wigan will overtake us.
Watched that game on the TV in the pub today (Villa game not available, apparently).
They difference between us & them is easy for all to see... they appear to be playing
with desire & purpose - fighting for a Manager they clearly respect and like... 4-0 vs.
a Newcastle side who have been very good this year (although I think they've been
punching above their weight). We have better players, but MANAGEMENT is the key.
I wonder why they never bother playing for the manager for the first 30 games of the season?
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I hope England's Brave And Loyal John Terry will once again lead his team of merry corinthians to another glorious win.
He is our Leader man. Real sic man. With him we will (I mean Chelsea) win all of it yes John boy go and smash QPR tomorrow
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Hutton is absolutely crap. I've never seen a player go walkabouts and wander out of position like he does, whilst offering no threat in return.
Plus, he's a constant penalty waiting to be given away. The most brainless player I've seen in ages.
I can't believe Spurs paid NINE million pounds for him.
I've been saying this for simply AGES ... rarely does he have a good 20 minutes - let alone a good game.
If he gets the ball (watch & you'll see what I mean), within 30 seconds it'll most often be with the opposition.
If he doesn't lose it (pass it to them) directly - he passes to a shirt who is immediately under pressure... NO
vision / reading of the game. I think that joke isn't funny anymore ... Hutton is NOT a profesional footballer.
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Martinez must be glad he didn't come to B6. It looks like Wigan will overtake us.
Watched that game on the TV in the pub today (Villa game not available, apparently).
They difference between us & them is easy for all to see... they appear to be playing
with desire & purpose - fighting for a Manager they clearly respect and like... 4-0 vs.
a Newcastle side who have been very good this year (although I think they've been
punching above their weight). We have better players, but MANAGEMENT is the key.
I wonder why they never bother playing for the manager for the first 30 games of the season?
a fair point -- but they've sure got the fire in their belly when it matters - have we ?
can you see us (today, now) beating Newcastle 4-0 ? Really ? Neither can I.
McLeech has lost the dressing room, the players , the fans & (I believe) the will to win.
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You've just reminded me that I put a bottle of wine in the freezer when I got back to chill. I've forgotten about it and now I'm going to have to wait for it to defrost before I can have a drink. Damn and blast.
Don't wait, smash the glass and have a wine lolly
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Martinez must be glad he didn't come to B6. It looks like Wigan will overtake us.
Watched that game on the TV in the pub today (Villa game not available, apparently).
They difference between us & them is easy for all to see... they appear to be playing
with desire & purpose - fighting for a Manager they clearly respect and like... 4-0 vs.
a Newcastle side who have been very good this year (although I think they've been
punching above their weight). We have better players, but MANAGEMENT is the key.
I wonder why they never bother playing for the manager for the first 30 games of the season?
a fair point -- but they've sure got the fire in their belly when it matters - have we ?
can you see us (today, now) beating Newcastle 4-0 ? Really ? Neither can I.
McLeech has lost the dressing room, the players , the fans & (I believe) the will to win.
To be fair I think Wigan have played really well but just not had a breaks when I've seen them this year. I think the extra pressure has just made the difference to give them that little bit extra that wasn't there before.
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One less game to play and we're still outside the relegation zone, so I'll take that as a positive, thanks. Hopefully it's one more point gained towards our survival, and just two more games left until the abomination that is Alex McLeish is removed from Aston Villa FC.
agreed &
well put.
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Pretty chuffed with a point to be fair.
Chuffed with a point at West Brom... Jesus...
that it has come to this, eh ? a 1-2 loss at VP in the week, to poor opposition too. Un-fucking-believable
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You've just reminded me that I put a bottle of wine in the freezer when I got back to chill. I've forgotten about it and now I'm going to have to wait for it to defrost before I can have a drink. Damn and blast.
Don't wait, smash the glass and have a wine lolly
Hehe. I found a bottle in the fridge with some wine left in it. Goodness knows how that happened. I'm drinking that while I'm waiting.
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The difference between us and Wigan is they have a game plan, a strategy a way of playing football. I dont think they are that great when you look at the squad they have got but they are a team.
We on the other hand are a dysfuntional outfit lacking in direction, tactics and strategy.
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Taken from bbc website:
Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish: "I have had to show my experience and leadership and that has come to the fore. I will not curl up and die. I will persevere to the end as I always have done."
He has shown his experience and leadership, and they were both found wonting. The guy is deluded.
and which 'end' are we referring to here, exactly, the END of Villa's run in the Premiership ? the END of his 'Managership' (I use the term loosely) ? or the END he talks out of ? The man is so far out of his depth he can't even see the shallow end...
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http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/04/28/aston-villa-alex-mcleish-on-richard-dunne-return-a-point-gained-and-staying-seated-in-the-dugout-97319-30861118/#ixzz1tMeyK6TC (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/04/28/aston-villa-alex-mcleish-on-richard-dunne-return-a-point-gained-and-staying-seated-in-the-dugout-97319-30861118/#ixzz1tMeyK6TC)
"But McLeish denied this had anything to do with him being public enemy number one with some sections of Villa fans.
He said: "My seat was in the middle and it was a bit of a chore trying to get past Peter Grant so I just let him stay out there and pass the messages on".
So, he hasn't even got the tactical nous to win at musical chairs? He could have just swapped seats, the dozy sod.
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dunne was immense!
a couple more experienced players in there make all the difference!
and the villa fans! superb!
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"But McLeish denied this had anything to do with him being public enemy number one with some sections of Villa fans.
He said: "My seat was in the middle and it was a bit of a chore trying to get past Peter Grant so I just let him stay out there and pass the messages on".
So, he hasn't even got the tactical nous to win at musical chairs? He could have just swapped seats, the dozy sod.
Exactly. "My seat was in the middle", I mean come on. What is this, the Royal bloody Opera House? You can sit wherever the hell you like, Eck, we're not buying that one. I know you're exposure to Chris Hearne and the like won't have helped, but seriously, how thick do you think we are?
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"But McLeish denied this had anything to do with him being public enemy number one with some sections of Villa fans.
He said: "My seat was in the middle and it was a bit of a chore trying to get past Peter Grant so I just let him stay out there and pass the messages on".
So, he hasn't even got the tactical nous to win at musical chairs? He could have just swapped seats, the dozy sod.
That made me splutter. First drop of wine today got spat out a little.
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"But McLeish denied this had anything to do with him being public enemy number one with some sections of Villa fans.
He said: "My seat was in the middle and it was a bit of a chore trying to get past Peter Grant so I just let him stay out there and pass the messages on".
So, he hasn't even got the tactical nous to win at musical chairs? He could have just swapped seats, the dozy sod.
Exactly. "My seat was in the middle", I mean come on. What is this, the Royal bloody Opera House? You can sit wherever the hell you like, Eck, we're not buying that one. I know you're exposure to Chris Hearne and the like won't have helped, but seriously, how thick do you think we are?
Haha that's funny as well.
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"But McLeish denied this had anything to do with him being public enemy number one with some sections of Villa fans.
He said: "My seat was in the middle and it was a bit of a chore trying to get past Peter Grant so I just let him stay out there and pass the messages on".
So, he hasn't even got the tactical nous to win at musical chairs? He could have just swapped seats, the dozy sod.
That made me splutter. First drop of wine today got spat out a little.
Absolutely brilliant.
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"But McLeish denied this had anything to do with him being public enemy number one with some sections of Villa fans.
He said: "My seat was in the middle and it was a bit of a chore trying to get past Peter Grant so I just let him stay out there and pass the messages on".
So, he hasn't even got the tactical nous to win at musical chairs? He could have just swapped seats, the dozy sod.
That made me splutter. First drop of wine today got spat out a little.
Absolutely brilliant.
he aint going to be here much longer and he has the message!
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I have had plenty of wine and beer today........And him is still a twat!Site standards and all that!How the fuck did Wigan put 4 past Newcastle,how the fuck did Bolton get a draw at Blunderland?What results are going to smack us in the face tomorrow?You just know that being down the boozer for both games is going to be really f..king bad.
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I respect him for staying in the dugout. If he'd come out, he'd have copped a load of shit and it might have affected the players. So fair play.
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http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/04/28/aston-villa-alex-mcleish-on-richard-dunne-return-a-point-gained-and-staying-seated-in-the-dugout-97319-30861118/#ixzz1tMeyK6TC (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/04/28/aston-villa-alex-mcleish-on-richard-dunne-return-a-point-gained-and-staying-seated-in-the-dugout-97319-30861118/#ixzz1tMeyK6TC)
"But McLeish denied this had anything to do with him being public enemy number one with some sections of Villa fans.
He said: "My seat was in the middle and it was a bit of a chore trying to get past Peter Grant so I just let him stay out there and pass the messages on".
So, he hasn't even got the tactical nous to win at musical chairs? He could have just swapped seats, the dozy sod.
That made me splutter. First drop of wine today got spat out a little.
Tim, please can I nick that for my signature, ok, ta very much?
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Mat Kendrick tweet:
"Apart from his goalkeeping heroics, Alan Hutton's performance was right down there with Habib Beye in Vienna a few years back"
Hopefully he is thrown in the bin with McLeish. His signature type of player.
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Mat Kendrick tweet:
"Apart from his goalkeeping heroics, Alan Hutton's performance was right down there with Habib Beye in Vienna a few years back"
Hopefully he is thrown in the bin with McLeish. His signature type of player.
Brainless Scottish brawler?
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The difference between us and Wigan is they have a game plan, a strategy a way of playing football. I dont think they are that great when you look at the squad they have got but they are a team.
We on the other hand are a dysfuntional outfit lacking in direction, tactics and strategy.
I want to cry
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forgot useless
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I suppose Hutton has a semi-decent work rate?
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I respect him for staying in the dugout. If he'd come out, he'd have copped a load of shit and it might have affected the players. So fair play.
Well you are nearly right.
If he'd have said that was the reason he stayed in the dugout. If he'd have said it was expedient to keep a low profile given the feelings of the fans, and maybe it was best not to inflame the situation and not have that transmitted to the players, then yes, that would deserve some respect.
But what he has actually done has assumed that the fans are imbeciles. He assumes that any old guff he spouts is beliveable.
Frankly, the bloke is a deluded twat.
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Went today and we got a point that I didn't think we would this morning. As others have said, if Spurs, Chelsea and Man City in 2 weeks do the necessary, we should be okay.
Didn't want him back and I want him out at the end of the season, but I thought Dunne was outstnading today. Liked the pairing of Herd and Clark in midfield, but I believe we could have done with an Ireland or Gardner instead of Warnock and moved Gabby wide and played 4-2-3-1. For me we don't have the personnel or more pertinently the wingers to play 4-4-2. NZogbia was disappointing today in the basic things a winger does i.e get to the bye line and cross the damn thing. I have no idea what has happened to Gabby and if he is going to be played down the middle in a 4-4-2 then let's have Weimann please.
Finally Heskey. For me I thought that was one of his best performances in a Villa shirt. Held the thing up superbly, flicked on numerous headers and chased everything down. Hope he will leave in 180 mins time, but fair play today. Although I guess a goal would have been too much to ask for?.
Finally, finally. Went with my Mum who is 78 years old and a season ticket holder in the East stand at the Hawthorns. Due to illness, this is the first game she has been too for the best part of two months. It was something that we targeted as a goal and that was the best part of today, being able to go to the Albion v Villa derby as we have done for many years.
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Went today and we got a point that I didn't think we would this morning. As others have said, if Spurs, Chelsea and Man City in 2 weeks do the necessary, we should be okay.
Didn't want him back and I want him out at the end of the season, but I thought Dunne was outstnading today. Liked the pairing of Herd and Clark in midfield, but I believe we could have done with an Ireland or Gardner instead of Warnock and moved Gabby wide and played 4-2-3-1. For me we don't have the personnel or more pertinently the wingers to play 4-4-2. NZogbia was disappointing today in the basic things a winger does i.e get to the bye line and cross the damn thing. I have no idea what has happened to Gabby and if he is going to be played down the middle in a 4-4-2 then let's have Weimann please.
Finally Heskey. For me I thought that was one of his best performances in a Villa shirt. Held the thing up superbly, flicked on numerous headers and chased everything down. Hope he will leave in 180 mins time, but fair play today. Although I guess a goal would have been too much to ask for?.
Finally, finally. Went with my Mum who is 78 years old and a season ticket holder in the East stand at the Hawthorns. Due to illness, this is the first game she has been too for the best part of two months. It was something that we targeted as a goal and that was the best part of today, being able to go to the Albion v Villa derby as we have done for many years.
lets hope there are many more for your mum too!
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McLeech's view:
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,20699_7712744,00.html
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All the best to you and your mum Dave
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Went today and we got a point that I didn't think we would this morning. As others have said, if Spurs, Chelsea and Man City in 2 weeks do the necessary, we should be okay.
Didn't want him back and I want him out at the end of the season, but I thought Dunne was outstnading today. Liked the pairing of Herd and Clark in midfield, but I believe we could have done with an Ireland or Gardner instead of Warnock and moved Gabby wide and played 4-2-3-1. For me we don't have the personnel or more pertinently the wingers to play 4-4-2. NZogbia was disappointing today in the basic things a winger does i.e get to the bye line and cross the damn thing. I have no idea what has happened to Gabby and if he is going to be played down the middle in a 4-4-2 then let's have Weimann please.
Finally Heskey. For me I thought that was one of his best performances in a Villa shirt. Held the thing up superbly, flicked on numerous headers and chased everything down. Hope he will leave in 180 mins time, but fair play today. Although I guess a goal would have been too much to ask for?.
Finally, finally. Went with my Mum who is 78 years old and a season ticket holder in the East stand at the Hawthorns. Due to illness, this is the first game she has been too for the best part of two months. It was something that we targeted as a goal and that was the best part of today, being able to go to the Albion v Villa derby as we have done for many years.
lets hope there are many more for your mum too!
Thanks Rutski, much appreciated. Although I would like us to win one again soon so normal service can be resumed :-)
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Dave: respect to the old girl.
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They didn't. They said they would, but they didn't. But they kept saying that they would. The other lot sang about us at their game. Whatever happens, it feels like a confirmation of our status in a strange way.
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Dave: respect to the old girl.
Seconded.
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just perusing their programme. they really are small time when the kits are sponsored individually??
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I respect him for staying in the dugout. If he'd come out, he'd have copped a load of shit and it might have affected the players. So fair play.
Well you are nearly right.
If he'd have said that was the reason he stayed in the dugout. If he'd have said it was expedient to keep a low profile given the feelings of the fans, and maybe it was best not to inflame the situation and not have that transmitted to the players, then yes, that would deserve some respect.
But what he has actually done has assumed that the fans are imbeciles. He assumes that any old guff he spouts is beliveable.
Frankly, the bloke is a deluded twat.
Thing is if he'd done that you can guarantee that a) some fans would have labelled him a coward, and b) we as fans would have got shit from the media for getting on his and the teams back to such a degree that he couldn't even do his job properly. Yes I know there are plenty of jokes about the last bit but you know what I mean.
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Call me a ******, but I like to believe the best of people.
Apart from George Osborne
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I respect him for staying in the dugout. If he'd come out, he'd have copped a load of shit and it might have affected the players. So fair play.
Thing is though Damon, he's also expected to do his job. I'm not in any way saying that personal abuse is right. It isn't. But he still has to do a job and block out what he's being hurled at him. It's not easy, and while I don't condone what is being said by some sections a lot of it has been brought by his own words and actions.
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He could have sat in the stands with an iPad 4 and a big fuck-off Bluetooth earpiece and everybody would have thought he was state of the art (or Fat Sam). It certainly wouldn't have done us any harm.
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Call me a c***, but I like to believe the best of people.
Apart from George Osborne
C***!
oh that is Osborne not you!
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I honestly thought Cammie Fraser was the worst right back I would ever see in a Villa shirt.
Hutton has just taken that title away from him!.....in style.
This, Hutton is dreadful!
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Are we setting the record for this phrase on MOTD in a single season? "Our last match of the night features Aston Villa"
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Meat-brain Hutton. The ball was going straight to Given anyway.
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Dropping Hutton would improve our chances of survival. He is a shocking excuse for a footballer.
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Are we setting the record for this phrase on MOTD in a single season? "Our last match of the night features Aston Villa"
I'm surprised they even bother putting us on. They may as well just say, "the other game of the day featured xxxxx and Aston Villanil. It's too boring to show so we'll just play the test screen for 5 minutes. At least it has some colour"
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Hutton is a scum sucking pile of shit.
How far have we fucking sunk to have him in the side, makes me pine for De La cruz.
he is the sort of player Blose would have bought last season , oh yeah right , now I get it ;P
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Are we setting the record for this phrase on MOTD in a single season? "Our last match of the night features Aston Villa"
To be fair, they did have to allow time to fawn over Luis Suarez. The analysis of him shaking the official's hands was fascinating viewing.
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I think from Mc Shit head's quote, we really are missing the point. "It was a bit of a chore".
No you useless ginger shit head, watching our beloved Aston Villa has now become a chore under you and we don't get paid a couple of million a year to do it, in fact we pay for the "chore'.
If he was afraid to come out of the dug out yesterday, if we go down in the first 5 mins against Spuds, I suggest he gets a satellite link set up at the Sty and watches the game from there.
Gabby is a perfect summary of what that twat has done to our club, attitude gone, confidence gone, would be lucky to score in a brothel and suddenly are best forward is Heskey.
Man of the Match yesterday, every single Villa fan who sang their hearts out and maybe there is the choice, we may go, but we wont go quietly.
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'Today's other game featured Aston Villa. But never mind that, here's Mark Lawrenson wanking into a sock'
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Call me a c***, but I like to believe the best of people.
Apart from George Osborne
And Rupert?
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'Today's other game featured Aston Villa. But never mind that, here's Mark Lawrenson wanking into a sock'
Very good
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'Today's other game featured Aston Villa. But never mind that, here's Mark Lawrenson wanking into a sock'
'Bad day at the office. He'll want to forget about that.'
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Well whilst a point is welcome I still can't see where a win will come from in the last two games. I think we are relying on other games, even though we're not, if you know what I mean.
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leadership? more like a wee timorous beastie
Haven't the baggies their own website?
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No, they don't have the internet in the 1950's
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Nice to hear the confidence of the albion fans on the Metro on the way back......and when we stay up it would be a good time to fill our collective boots on finishing above them next year.
I would even now only take one member of their staff in exchange for a Villa person. That would be the manager, none of their players would get into our team.
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Nice to hear the confidence of the albion fans on the Metro on the way back......and when we stay up it would be a good time to fill our collective boots on finishing above them next year.
I would even now only take one member of their staff in exchange for a Villa person. That would be the manager, none of their players would get into our team.
Olssen, Odemwingie (more goals than Gab and Emile combined), Mulumbu (could get in our CM easy at the moment and he's average), Foster maybe (Given's been good, Fosters been excellent this season), Ridgewe...just kidding.
But yeah, we should be finishing higher than a team with their squad. The sad part was that in some spells they played football we could only dream of...and it wasn't even that impressive on the eye. Hell, 5 passes strung together is something we can only dream of these days.
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Watching the highlights on MotD and it's clear that our forwards have no confidence to apply a decisive finish when clearly in positions where scoring is easier than missing or getting a save out of the goalkeeper. N'Zogiba twice, Heskey and Agbonlahor many times were guilty of that.
This is the most worrying aspect of our team at the moment. It means that coupled with noddy tactics and an uncertain defence we will not win any of the two remaining matches.
Our survival is in the hands of others.
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I thought Albion played some nice stuff as well, I think it was two very well matched teams. Our worst season in donkeys years and their best.
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Sorry chaps I should know this but who was that bloke next to K Mac? Apparently McCleish went straight to him in the tunnel before the game started. Seemed slightly familiar but I cant put a name to him.
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He is and Albion steward and McLeish was asking for last minute tactical advice!
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As a positive, the narrow line up, as much as I don't like it, did stifle the Boggies.
So it was a decent game plan. Picking Heskey, not Weimann. Choosing a narrow line-up, stifle the opposition and battle through to an away point. It's not the actions of a manager that's completely useless and out of his depth.
It's just not the kind of expertise Villa are looking for in a manager when we're playing WBA.
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As a positive, the narrow line up, as much as I don't like it, did stifle the Boggies.
So it was a decent game plan. Picking Heskey, not Weimann. Choosing a narrow line-up, stifle the opposition and battle through to an away point. It's not the actions of a manager that's completely useless and out of his depth.
It's just not the kind of expertise Villa are looking for in a manager when we're playing WBA.
Great.We have become a team that goes out to stifle?WTF!If that is the best we can do,stifle the Bagshite then we may as well fucking pack it all in now!
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As a positive, the narrow line up, as much as I don't like it, did stifle the Boggies.
So it was a decent game plan. Picking Heskey, not Weimann. Choosing a narrow line-up, stifle the opposition and battle through to an away point. It's not the actions of a manager that's completely useless and out of his depth.
It's just not the kind of expertise Villa are looking for in a manager when we're playing WBA.
Great.We have become a team that goes out to stifle?WTF!If that is the best we can do,stifle the Bagshite then we may as well fucking pack it all in now!
This season, yes. Get rid of McDick, survive this season and move on to better things
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Mulumbu (could get in our CM easy at the moment and he's average),
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I'm not sure if it was a poor game for him, but I thought he was the worst player on the pitch (Unless you actually bother to include emile)
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The most important thing yesterday was not getting beat so i was relived to come away with a draw for once. It's a ground i've come to hate going to now.
Thought the result was just about right and a special mention for Warnock who gave everything yesterday.
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I honestly thought Cammie Fraser was the worst right back I would ever see in a Villa shirt.
Hutton has just taken that title away from him!.....in style.
This, Hutton is dreadful!
A great bit of business by 'arry. Let Villa give Walker a season to develop into an international, take him back and sell Hutton to McPlonker, compounded by also getting us pay Jenas's wages for a season. Well done Alex, master stroke.
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'Today's other game featured Aston Villa. But never mind that, here's Mark Lawrenson wanking into a sock'
to be fair thats what I was doing , while I was watching us.
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Who did it for you JP?
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What was the wolverhampton "they pissed on your pitch chant about"?
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What was the wolverhampton "they pissed on your pitch chant about"?
Three Wolves fans stayed behind after a game, managed to walk on the pitch and one of them had a piss on the centre circle.
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has to be the highlight of their season wish we had thought of it ha ha
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And now they'll banned most likely.
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Sorry chaps I should know this but who was that bloke next to K Mac? Apparently McCleish went straight to him in the tunnel before the game started. Seemed slightly familiar but I cant put a name to him.
If it was on the MOTD footage, then the bloke he was talking to in the tunnel was Brian Doogan (Villa's Head of Media)
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Probably telling him to have a word and keep the TV cameras out of his face.
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'Today's other game featured Aston Villa. But never mind that, here's Mark Lawrenson wanking into a sock'
to be fair thats what I was doing , while I was watching us.
I hope you put it in the wash and not chucked it over the back of the bed, forgot about it and then tried to put it on a few weeks later.
I got athletes foot doing that.
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I'm desperate for Lawro to tip us to lose the last couple of games.
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Mulumbu (could get in our CM easy at the moment and he's average),
I'm not sure if it was a poor game for him, but I thought he was the worst player on the pitch (Unless you actually bother to include emile)
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you mean the same emile who was excellent yesterday and on tuesday...?
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Dispiriting moments yesterday:
Gabby through and knowing he was never going to beat the keeper as he currently has the touch of Sisyphus.
That regular tactic of playing the ball from midfield out to the right where our player running into space, ready to cut into the 18 yard box or cross was, mostly, .... Alan Hutton. Fucking depressing.
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And now they'll banned most likely.
Or win X-Factor!?
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you mean the same emile who was excellent yesterday and on tuesday...?
Fucking hell, hope it is adifferent Emile. Couldn't stand the thought of that clown being offered a new contract.
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Emile being excellent I assume means he got within 20 yards of the opposition goal?
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Mulumbu (could get in our CM easy at the moment and he's average),
I'm not sure if it was a poor game for him, but I thought he was the worst player on the pitch (Unless you actually bother to include emile)
you mean the same emile who was excellent yesterday and on tuesday...?
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Over the years I have seen some very good forwards playing for Villa, some even excellent. How poor we have become when some think Heskey has been excellent in the last two games.
I am all for encouraging our players but ...........
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Heskey HAS been good the last two games, BUT that's because we are just playing hoofball upto him.
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Emile Heskey has been far and away our best player for the last three games, doesn't mean he's been value for his contract but credit where it's due.
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Emile Heskey has been far and away our best player for the last three games
It has come to this. I need a drink.