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Title: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Concrete John on March 22, 2011, 03:50:10 PM
Simple question:-

On the (please McGrath) premise that we do stay up, who would you want to be our manager next season?

I've put in the usual names (plus one for a bit of devilment).

And just to clarify - this is you you WANT and not who might expect.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 22, 2011, 03:51:41 PM
Where's Ranieri?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: Dr Butler on March 22, 2011, 03:52:05 PM
Jol ?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 22, 2011, 03:52:17 PM
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Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: not3bad on March 22, 2011, 03:52:22 PM
Sid until the summer, and then Coyle.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: WikiVilla on March 22, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
Van Gaal

or

Rijkaard

or

Klinnsman
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: Concrete John on March 22, 2011, 03:52:54 PM
Sorry - should have put Jol on there!

Can any Mod assist with adding him in?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: TheSandman on March 22, 2011, 03:53:37 PM
From that list Coyle followed closely by Moyes

I'd be tempted by the unlisted Martin Jol too.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 22, 2011, 03:54:03 PM
Where's O' Leary?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 03:54:44 PM
Is Phil Oakey available?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: pablopicasso_10 on March 22, 2011, 03:54:58 PM
martin jol or owen coyle for me...
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Concrete John on March 22, 2011, 03:55:26 PM
Where's O' Leary?

The 9th level of hell, hopefully.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 22, 2011, 03:56:07 PM
Olivia Newton John
Title: Re: The 'who do you want thread'
Post by: TaxDodger on March 22, 2011, 03:56:27 PM
Moyes, although we'd never get him. Out of the managers we could realistically attract, Jol.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Risso on March 22, 2011, 03:59:31 PM
I've added Jol and other as options.

Coyle or Jol for me, although as Coyle has a job, we couldn't possibly ask him.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Pete Green on March 22, 2011, 04:02:46 PM
Bruce

Or that bloke from Reading who looks a bit like Matt Lucas.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 22, 2011, 04:03:34 PM
Anybody with real hunger to succeed at Aston Villa.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 22, 2011, 04:06:38 PM
Anybody could go on that poll list and be more popular than Houllier, but since Abu Hamza and Chris Moyles aren't available, I'll go for Jol or Coyle. Now. This fucking instant.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Concrete John on March 22, 2011, 04:06:43 PM
Houllier =  1 (7.7%)

Come on - who was it.............?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: villajk on March 22, 2011, 04:09:05 PM
From that list Coyle followed closely by Moyes



Me too.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 22, 2011, 04:09:19 PM
Coyle, moyes or jol- I've voted coyle as my neighbours son is Graham Alexander who was coyles captain at burnley and everything I've heard  from them suggests coyle is a tremendous man manager , has good training methods and likes to play nice football- he's still young and hungry and I think would do a great job .
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 22, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
In answer to the thread question, I want Mourinho. At a push I might accept Guardiola.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 22, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
In answer to the thread question, I want Mourinho. At a push I might accept Guardiola.

Guardiola, whilst he might not be 100 percent Villa, at least probably bleeds claret and blue (ish).

I'd take him, obviously, if the dream team of Big "Saviour" Sam Allardyce and Sammy "Yes, boss" Lee isn't available.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: murgsy on March 22, 2011, 04:25:25 PM
Rijkaard or Bilic
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: philthebar on March 22, 2011, 04:30:50 PM
 Felix Magath

or

Louis van Gaal

Both available
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: murgsy on March 22, 2011, 04:33:19 PM
Magath has been appointed @ wOLFSBURG straight after the sacking from Schalke....
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: philthebar on March 22, 2011, 04:35:28 PM
Magath has been appointed @ wOLFSBURG straight after the sacking from Schalke....

Shows how up to date I am!
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: richard moore on March 22, 2011, 04:42:31 PM
Is Phil Oakey available?

He's erm.... working as a waitress in erm.... a cocktail bar
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: richard moore on March 22, 2011, 04:43:20 PM
Lambert at Norwich

Failing that, Mourinho...
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Lambert at Norwich

Good call
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: philthebar on March 22, 2011, 04:44:43 PM
Is Phil Oakey available?

He's erm.... working as a waitress in erm.... a cocktail bar

True, but he has been spotted outside Villa Park singing 'Don't you want me baby'
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: philthebar on March 22, 2011, 04:46:36 PM
Lambert at Norwich

Good call

Have good friends who support Colchester and some who work there - they were glad to get rid of him and classed him as an O'Neil clone.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: richard moore on March 22, 2011, 04:49:36 PM
Lambert at Norwich

Good call

Have good friends who support Colchester and some who work there - they were glad to get rid of him and classed him as an O'Neil clone.

I know a few Colchester fans too and it strikes me they were just very bitter when he upped and went to their local rivals right after Colchester had tonked Norwich away on the first day of the season. They rated him very highly indeed until he did the dirty on them..

You would have to say too that his decision has been totally vindicated to date
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: luke25 on March 22, 2011, 05:06:06 PM
Gus Poyet has worked wonders at Brighton and got them playing some lovely stuff, having said that I'm not sure he's ready to step up two leagues yet, although we could very well both be in the same league next season, oh Im confusing myself, apoint him, apoint him now!
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 22, 2011, 05:11:15 PM
I can just imagine us appointing Jol and all it goes a bit wrong. As fans call him a cock he says, "why do they mishtake me for my brother?"

Jol has one brother, Cock (short for Cornelis). Cock works in scouting and worked alongside Martin while he was manager of HSV and Ajax
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chipsticks on March 22, 2011, 05:19:37 PM
Why are people talking about Moyes? Never in a million years would he come to us.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 22, 2011, 05:21:31 PM
Jol and hughton worked well as a team at spurs- we could do far worse , oh  we already have done.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 22, 2011, 05:21:39 PM
Why are people talking about Moyes? Never in a million years would he come to us.

He's the one half-decent-and-above manager who would.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TheSandman on March 22, 2011, 05:22:09 PM
Is Phil Oakey available?

He's erm.... working as a waitress in erm.... a cocktail bar

True, but he has been spotted outside Villa Park singing 'Don't you want me baby'

But I think we can only be together in electric dreams.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 05:29:46 PM
If we'd done this a few years ago Paul Jewell would be getting the Owen Coyle vote.

Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 05:30:07 PM
Why are people talking about Moyes? Never in a million years would he come to us.

He has run down the clock at Everton. Can genuinely say he has taken them as far as he can, and is ready to move on.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 05:30:57 PM
If we'd done this a few years ago Paul Jewell would be getting the Owen Coyle vote.



Which is why I didn't vote for him. He has a touch of Mark McGhee about him.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 22, 2011, 05:32:11 PM
Neil Warnock anyone ? if we stay up. He would take absolutely no shit
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 05:34:23 PM
Is Phil Oakey available?

He's erm.... working as a waitress in erm.... a cocktail bar

True, but he has been spotted outside Villa Park singing 'Don't you want me baby'

Risso wouldn't be happy, his piss would be forever being boiled.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Risso on March 22, 2011, 05:41:09 PM
If we'd done this a few years ago Paul Jewell would be getting the Owen Coyle vote.



Who did Jewell take to 6th/7th in the league?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: philthebar on March 22, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
Lambert at Norwich

Good call

Have good friends who support Colchester and some who work there - they were glad to get rid of him and classed him as an O'Neil clone.

I know a few Colchester fans too and it strikes me they were just very bitter when he upped and went to their local rivals right after Colchester had tonked Norwich away on the first day of the season. They rated him very highly indeed until he did the dirty on them..

You would have to say too that his decision has been totally vindicated to date

Did the dirty on them

My point exactly, a clone.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: richard moore on March 22, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
Gus Poyet has worked wonders at Brighton and got them playing some lovely stuff, having said that I'm not sure he's ready to step up two leagues yet, although we could very well both be in the same league next season, oh Im confusing myself, apoint him, apoint him now!

Have this already pencilled in as one of my away trips next year...a short train trip for me and a day out in Brighton, excellent...
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 22, 2011, 05:47:32 PM
Looking at that list of potential managers actually depresses me. It probably has pretty much all of the "best" managers we could realistically get in the summer, but if you take the current and ex manager out of the list, I think the combined total of trophies won by them is 2 Dutch FA Cups, both by Jol.

Not quite what I was expecting 5 years into Randy's ownership. That Sheff Utd game seems a lifetime ago now.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: paulcomben on March 22, 2011, 05:48:02 PM
Why no mention of Benitez nor Grayson?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 22, 2011, 05:48:16 PM
If we'd done this a few years ago Paul Jewell would be getting the Owen Coyle vote.

I think there's more to Coyle than Jewell. For a start his teams play good football. He's proved himself wherever he's gone.
As I mentioned earlier, I want somebody that has the hunger to succeed at Aston Villa. Coyle I'd imagine, would certainly fit into that catagory. He may not have the experience especially when it comes to dealing in the higher end of the transfer market but it's not as if we need a big overhaul. We have a great squad, it just needs some direction and an improvement here and there.

What I don't think we need is a manager that sees us as a great addition to his pension plan. That's not a dig at Houllier, just highlighting the need for somebody that really wants the job. We could do a lot worse than Coyle. You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him. (snigger)
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 05:50:31 PM
If we'd done this a few years ago Paul Jewell would be getting the Owen Coyle vote.



Who did Jewell take to 6th/7th in the league?

It's a flavour of the month vote, I want proven quality. Also, I really don't like his face, he looks like he sells smack to kids, and as this a purely hypothetical poll as there is no vacancy that's as good a reason as any.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: richard moore on March 22, 2011, 05:51:53 PM
Lambert at Norwich

Good call

Have good friends who support Colchester and some who work there - they were glad to get rid of him and classed him as an O'Neil clone.

I know a few Colchester fans too and it strikes me they were just very bitter when he upped and went to their local rivals right after Colchester had tonked Norwich away on the first day of the season. They rated him very highly indeed until he did the dirty on them..

You would have to say too that his decision has been totally vindicated to date

Did the dirty on them

My point exactly, a clone.


Exactly? He left Colchester for completely different reasons to those (as far as we can tell) surrounding MON

And anyway, he left way before MON did so how could they class him as a MON clone for doing the dirty on them?

The Colchester fans I know thought he was the best thing since sliced bread and overnight changed their tune to 'we didn't like him anyway' when he went to Norwich. I think that happens quite often in football

Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: usav on March 22, 2011, 05:53:52 PM
If we'd done this a few years ago Paul Jewell would be getting the Owen Coyle vote.



Who did Jewell take to 6th/7th in the league?

It's a flavour of the month vote, I want proven quality. Also, I really don't like his face, he looks like he sells smack to kids, and as this a purely hypothetical poll as there is no vacancy that's as good a reason as any.

Tears me apart to say it, but Chris is spot on.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
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You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him

The way his price seems to inflate week on week by next season he'd cost us £100 million with add ons for every thousand England caps he wins.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 22, 2011, 05:58:03 PM
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You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him

The way his price seems to inflate week on week by next season he'd cost us £100 million with add ons for every thousand England caps he wins.
Now, now Chris.
Admit it, you were wrong about him.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 22, 2011, 05:58:52 PM
I wouldn't mind Coyle.  His Burnley team played football, his Bolton team play good football. He's got them to the semi final of the FA cup so at least he appears to take that competition seriously. 

That's a massive improvement on what we have at present.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: CJ on March 22, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
I voted Coyle but I think the reality is Houllier will only go if we go down.  If we stay up I think Randy would give him the summer transfer window to offload the deadwood and shit stirrers and bring in players suited to his style of play, then give him til Christmas to prove his worth or otherwise. If we go down the above list will be superfluous and we'd need to look for a manager prepared to work in the Championship with a brief to get us back up. Maybe someone like Chris Hughton?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 22, 2011, 06:01:01 PM
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You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him

The way his price seems to inflate week on week by next season he'd cost us £100 million with add ons for every thousand England caps he wins.
Now, now Chris.
Admit it, you were wrong about him.

There's more chance of MON apologising for his brand of shit football and leaving the way he did than Chris admitting he was wrong.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 06:08:43 PM
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You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him

The way his price seems to inflate week on week by next season he'd cost us £100 million with add ons for every thousand England caps he wins.
Now, now Chris.
Admit it, you were wrong about him.

In what way? That I though he was a cheeky sod at 19 to expect guaranteed first team football? It would be like Clark asking to move now because he wasn't starting every week. Good player, not great.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 22, 2011, 06:14:40 PM
Sven ?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: darren woolley on March 22, 2011, 06:15:04 PM
I would go for Coyle he his doing wonders at Bolton and had Burnley playing good football aswell like others have said Moyes would be my second choice but i don't know if he would leave Everton and come to us.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 22, 2011, 06:15:58 PM
Moyes would not come here
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 22, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
Just because coyle needs his false teeth resetting is no reason to dislike him - at least he's not as bad as jimmy sirrel looked!

I think moyes would come this summer and would do an ok job but id prefer coyle slightly ahead of moyes or jol.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Clampy on March 22, 2011, 06:18:30 PM
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You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him

The way his price seems to inflate week on week by next season he'd cost us £100 million with add ons for every thousand England caps he wins.
Now, now Chris.
Admit it, you were wrong about him.

In what way? That I though he was a cheeky sod at 19 to expect guaranteed first team football? It would be like Clark asking to move now because he wasn't starting every week. Good player, not great.

Got to agree with Chris, he woud'nt be still at Bolton if he was a great player.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: luke25 on March 22, 2011, 06:19:23 PM
Sven ?
We've got to trim the wage bill, could'nt see Sven doing that, on a seperate note I heard yesterday on the local football programme on BBC that Leicester will sign Yakubu in the summer for £5m and 50k a week even if they don't get promoted, thats madness
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 22, 2011, 06:20:43 PM
If we'd done this a few years ago Paul Jewell would be getting the Owen Coyle vote.



Who did Jewell take to 6th/7th in the league?

It's a flavour of the month vote, I want proven quality. Also, I really don't like his face, he looks like he sells smack to kids, and as this a purely hypothetical poll as there is no vacancy that's as good a reason as any.

Tend to agree (though not with the smack part. More likely to be batteries and razors in a down at heel boozer).

Latest in vogue name, possibly living the dream and making the most of his 15 minutes of fame. See also John Gregory and Phil Orange.

He's less dislikeable and in love with himself than that pair, admittedly. And he might in time turn out to be a decent manager. But I'd like to see us go for someone who has a better track record in the game.  For that kind of candidate we'll need to wait until the summer though. And pray and hope we're still in the top flight.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: luke25 on March 22, 2011, 06:21:33 PM
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You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him

The way his price seems to inflate week on week by next season he'd cost us £100 million with add ons for every thousand England caps he wins.
Now, now Chris.
Admit it, you were wrong about him.

In what way? That I though he was a cheeky sod at 19 to expect guaranteed first team football? It would be like Clark asking to move now because he wasn't starting every week. Good player, not great.

Got to agree with Chris, he woud'nt be still at Bolton if he was a great player.
Indeed, Boltons defence has been awful the past few years at Villa Park, its only because he scores goals that he's rated so highly, same as Lescott.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 22, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
my estimation of Sven has gone up since he got the leicester gig
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Clampy on March 22, 2011, 06:23:06 PM
I do like the sound of Martin Jol and Chris Houghton, especially as they've worked together before, but i wonder if now Houghton has had a taste of management, he'll want another crack at it on his own somewhere.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 22, 2011, 06:33:35 PM
Why no mention of Benitez nor Grayson?

Benetiz is back living in the UK and wanting a job back in the Premiership.

I'd have him in a heartbeat.

Grayson I've heard is being lined up for the Blackburn job in the Summer should they stop up.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: JJ-AV on March 22, 2011, 06:44:50 PM
I'd like Coyle. We're big enough to keep him for the long term, we can offer him a bigger platform and he's young enough to want to do it. I don't think he'd get us right into the top 4, and he might struggle for a while. But he's positive and got a good media image.

Can't stand his voice though.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: JJ-AV on March 22, 2011, 06:46:31 PM
Why are people talking about Moyes? Never in a million years would he come to us.

Of course he would. He's not gonna get a bigger job until he does something of note.
The current 'big 6' are all very unlikely as things stand so it's us or abroad left.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: citizenDJ on March 22, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
I've voted for Houllier, which has surprised me a bit. It's for a couple of reasons, though.

The first is, despite the predicament we're in now, I genuinely think he's a good manager. I know many will accept that he WAS a good manager, but I just feel that there is something in what he's trying to do, and I'm actually quite interested to see just what he might put together. Maybe that's blind faith, but looking at his achievements over the years then, well, he must have something.

My second reason is simply because I feel he has had to deal with an unprecedented amount of turbulence, in the form of injuries, player commitment and so on. I know I don't know everything that has happened 'behind the scenes', but I've seen enough on the pitch to see that some of our players are performing dismally. Honestly, I don't care if they think Houllier is a total dickhead; I've thought similarly about some of my bosses in the past, and no doubt some of my staff think so of me. I always took pride in my own performance, and I'd expect the same of others, professional footballers or not. Regrettably, I don't think that Dunne, Collins, Warnock, perhaps more, have done that. For me, they are more to blame than Houllier, even if it is he who ultimately takes responsibility.

In short, I'd like him to succeed because I can't stand the thought of the players getting away with this sort of shit.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Ian. on March 22, 2011, 07:09:33 PM
Moyes without any doubt and I reckon he would come here too. We both need a fresh start.
If not him I like Coyle and his teams seem to play some good football. There is something (I don't know what) I'm not sure about Jol.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 22, 2011, 07:12:06 PM
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You never know Chris, he might bring Gary Cahill with him

The way his price seems to inflate week on week by next season he'd cost us £100 million with add ons for every thousand England caps he wins.
Now, now Chris.
Admit it, you were wrong about him.

In what way? That I though he was a cheeky sod at 19 to expect guaranteed first team football? It would be like Clark asking to move now because he wasn't starting every week. Good player, not great.

Got to agree with Chris, he woud'nt be still at Bolton if he was a great player.
Indeed, Boltons defence has been awful the past few years at Villa Park, its only because he scores goals that he's rated so highly, same as Lescott.

But not as good. Not even close.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: ozzjim on March 22, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
Coyle, followed by erm... Houllier for the identical reasons to citizen DJ. If we stop up, then he has a summer to sort through the issues and make it his own. If still struggling next season then get shot at Christmas but he kinda deserves the shot for all he has had to put up with.

Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
I think Oakey will be looking to get his career back on track. He will bring a fresh perspective and the ability to play keyboard with both hands.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 22, 2011, 07:29:22 PM
Ranieri? Mourinho?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 22, 2011, 07:33:39 PM
Where's Hilts when you need him.

I'm sure he could make a lengthy, detailed and in no way unrealistic argument as to why Mournho would be only too keen to take the job - even now.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: SO Villa on March 22, 2011, 07:36:34 PM
Coyle, as long as he can get rid of the irritating habit of mentioning 'Barclays Premier League' in every interview.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on March 22, 2011, 07:41:13 PM
Moyes. He's done with Everton what MON did with us, but with less money available to him. Maybe he could succeed where MON just missed out?

However, I also believe that Everton fans see Moyes the way Villa fans saw MON. The media love Moyes, but there are Everton fans who don't like the football they play...sound familair?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 22, 2011, 07:42:11 PM
In no particular order, my shortlist:

Houllier with Patrice Bergues
Owen Coyle
Martin Jol/Houghton
Carlos Queiroz



Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 07:46:44 PM
Coyle, as long as he can get rid of the irritating habit of mentioning 'Barclays Premier League' in every interview.

The sponsors would love him though.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on March 22, 2011, 07:49:53 PM
1. Moyes.
2. Coyle.
3. McLeish.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: peter w on March 22, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
Houllier. Simply because it would mean we've stayed up.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 22, 2011, 07:56:55 PM
Houllier. Simply because it would mean we've stayed up.


I like it.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 22, 2011, 07:59:51 PM
no votes for George Burley then
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 22, 2011, 08:03:36 PM
Or K-Mac.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 22, 2011, 08:05:48 PM
I think plenty would vote for KMac as caretaker for 8 games but not as a long term choice which would make the ask unfair on KMac
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on March 22, 2011, 08:08:25 PM
Moyes would not come here

Why not ?

Unless Everton find a buyer, he really has taken them as far as he can, ManUre will be looking for European experience, so we are a very attractive proposition for Moyes.





Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 22, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
I think plenty would vote for KMac as caretaker for 8 games but not as a long term choice which would make the ask unfair on KMac

Probably correct. Apologies. My mind was wandering after a dull day at work and a few glasses of cider.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 22, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
Interesting viewpoint (http://www.7500toholte.com/2011/3/22/2065957/why-im-still-team-houllier)
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Guy M on March 22, 2011, 08:29:03 PM
Coyle, as long as he can get rid of the irritating habit of mentioning 'Barclays Premier League' in every interview.
Better that than Barclays Premiership, which it hasn't actually been called since 2007.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: citizenDJ on March 22, 2011, 08:35:31 PM
Interesting viewpoint (http://www.7500toholte.com/2011/3/22/2065957/why-im-still-team-houllier)

It is, and one that I broadly agree with, really. Cheers for that.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 22, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
The Wolves game was awful , the Cup game was a stupid thing to do ...

But houlier for me.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: brian green on March 22, 2011, 08:42:55 PM
Billy Davies.   Sparky bastard.   Ambitious.   Shortly out of contract.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Cuz on March 22, 2011, 08:46:42 PM
who the fack voted Houlier
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TheSandman on March 22, 2011, 08:47:10 PM
Billy Davies.   Sparky bastard.   Ambitious.   Shortly out of contract.

Might be a good shot.

The only problem is that I'm too busy to spend my time translating his press conferences for the people on here.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 08:50:00 PM
Billy Davies.   Sparky bastard.   Ambitious.   Shortly out of contract.

Two Forest fans I know would drive him down here themselves, they can't stand the bloke. He's a yob who alienates people and he'd either be a roaring success or out on his ear in 3 months. Not sure we can afford the risk.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 22, 2011, 08:51:13 PM
who the fack voted Houlier

Currently 16 people who happen to have a different opinion to you.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TheSandman on March 22, 2011, 08:52:10 PM
Oh the temerity of them.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: citizenDJ on March 22, 2011, 08:52:57 PM
who the fack voted Houlier

Oh the temerity of them.

The utter bastards.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 22, 2011, 08:53:44 PM
Yes, isn't it disgraceful that people have differing opinions.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: 1_Pablo_Angel on March 22, 2011, 08:58:36 PM
Anyone said Simon Grayson yet?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Concrete John on March 22, 2011, 09:31:22 PM
Interesting viewpoint (http://www.7500toholte.com/2011/3/22/2065957/why-im-still-team-houllier)

It is, and one that I broadly agree with, really. Cheers for that.

Although he does raise some interesting views, I largely disagree.

Prime example is Dunne and 'not liking Houllier'.  So what?  Sheringham and Cole spent years playing very well together at Man Utd, but would never say a word to each other off the pitch.  OK, the Fergie factor obviously comes into play, but crucially they respected each other as players.  If Dunne doesn't like his manager that does not stop him from playing well and following his lead if he respects him and buys into what he's doing.

I saw no sign of the dressing room unrest he mentions, although there were obviously favourites and those on the outside looking in.  The reason being that all the players knew who was boss and wouldn't dare cross him.  What Houllier lacks most crucially is that strong man management ability. 
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: richardhubbard on March 22, 2011, 09:33:45 PM
Why are people talking about Moyes? Never in a million years would he come to us.

Moyes is off to Man City 100% deffo in the summer
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: villan1975 on March 22, 2011, 09:38:07 PM
Voted for Moyes and think we have a genuine chance.No way Moyes going to man shitty if they qualify for chumps league.Suprised at number of votes for Coyle as agree with those who said its to early to tell his pedigree.Holloway anyone?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 09:39:38 PM
Why are people talking about Moyes? Never in a million years would he come to us.

Moyes is off to Man City 100% deffo in the summer

Yes, of course. Manchester City, who will be playing in the Champions League, are going to chuck out the manager who got them there and appoint a manager who has overseen - what was it? One Champions' league qualifier?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Dave on March 22, 2011, 09:39:50 PM
Why are people talking about Moyes? Never in a million years would he come to us.

Moyes is off to Man City 100% deffo in the summer

Bollocks is he.

20-1 at the moment Rich (http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/man-city-specials/next-permanent-manager) - if you're so sure, fill your boots.

A few grand on that "100% deffo" prediction and you'll probably have enough to clear your mortgage!
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: damon loves JT on March 22, 2011, 09:41:21 PM
Holloway anyone?

No thanks, I'm fine for gimps
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Ian. on March 22, 2011, 09:47:54 PM
Let me think, Holloway or Allardyce? Tough one.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: richardhubbard on March 22, 2011, 09:49:27 PM
Dave that what I been told, time will tell but he got no interest in us
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Holte L2 on March 22, 2011, 09:52:25 PM
Colye would be a fantastic appointment, though I'd like Big Sam in until the end of the season.

This for two reasons: Big Sam would be able to come in and hit the ground running being unemployed.
He'd give the team a shake and immediately get them organised. 

Coyle didnt get a win at Bolton in the first 13 games. Coyle could then go about his business and bring Lee Holden, Gary Cahill and Daniel Sturridge to Villa Park. 


I'm living in a dream world..................
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 22, 2011, 09:52:30 PM
Moyes will leave Everton this summer imo, taken them as far as he can.

Him or Coyle will do nicely.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: citizenDJ on March 22, 2011, 09:56:09 PM
Interesting viewpoint (http://www.7500toholte.com/2011/3/22/2065957/why-im-still-team-houllier)

It is, and one that I broadly agree with, really. Cheers for that.

Although he does raise some interesting views, I largely disagree.
 If Dunne doesn't like his manager that does not stop him from playing well....

Well, it shouldn't stop him playing well, but it would seem that it has. Sheringham and Cole didn't like each other by all accounts, but, as you say, played very well together. I would suggest that that attitude is why they ended up being hugely successful at Manchester United, and why Dunne's is why he won't.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: olaftab on March 22, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
What about Mike Bassett?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: l_mckay on March 22, 2011, 10:07:35 PM
Hughes for me,cant see Coyle or Moyes coming to us even though they would make great replacments for Houllier!
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: olaftab on March 22, 2011, 10:17:55 PM

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Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 22, 2011, 10:19:31 PM
Hughes for me.

- Did well for Wales, got them as close as anyone to qualifying for major tournaments a decade ago

- Helped Blackburn qualify for Europe on a budget and signed the likes of Bentley, Samba, Warnock and RSC for minimal fees, so he can spot a bargain

-Signed the core of the current Man City side and was doing reasonably well there despite interference, getting them to a LC semi final and leaving a side well placed for a tilt at top 4 for the past two seasons

Has shown that he has an eye for players either with or without substantial money to spend, and his teams are generally combative but can also play a bit. As a bonus, he also might (might) be able to get the best out of the likes of Dunne, Warnock and Ireland again, which -in an ideal world- would be better than having to take the hit financially and giving them away for buttons. That ship might have sailed for that triumvirate of wasters mind, they could well be beyond salvaging.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 22, 2011, 10:23:47 PM
No way man city would go for moyes- if they change manager they will be after top quality in the mourinho bracket.

Moyes may well leave everton for villa I believe , but coyle would just pip him in my choice.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 10:28:13 PM
Hughes for me.

- Did well for Wales, got them as close as anyone to qualifying for major tournaments a decade ago

- Helped Blackburn qualify for Europe on a budget and signed the likes of Bentley, Samba, Warnock and RSC for minimal fees, so he can spot a bargain

-Signed the core of the current Man City side and was doing reasonably well there despite interference, getting them to a LC semi final and leaving a side well placed for a tilt at top 4 for the past two seasons

Has shown that he has an eye for players either with or without substantial money to spend, and his teams are generally combative but can also play a bit. As a bonus, he also might (might) be able to get the best out of the likes of Dunne, Warnock and Ireland again, which -in an ideal world- would be better than having to take the hit financially and giving them away for buttons. That ship might have sailed for that triumvirate of wasters mind, they could well be beyond salvaging.

As I said last year the thought of some Villa fans using the name "Sparky" is enough to put me off.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 22, 2011, 10:30:20 PM
Sparky would be 4th choice on that list for me.(sorry chris)
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 22, 2011, 10:31:40 PM
Hughes for me.

- Did well for Wales, got them as close as anyone to qualifying for major tournaments a decade ago

- Helped Blackburn qualify for Europe on a budget and signed the likes of Bentley, Samba, Warnock and RSC for minimal fees, so he can spot a bargain

-Signed the core of the current Man City side and was doing reasonably well there despite interference, getting them to a LC semi final and leaving a side well placed for a tilt at top 4 for the past two seasons

Has shown that he has an eye for players either with or without substantial money to spend, and his teams are generally combative but can also play a bit. As a bonus, he also might (might) be able to get the best out of the likes of Dunne, Warnock and Ireland again, which -in an ideal world- would be better than having to take the hit financially and giving them away for buttons. That ship might have sailed for that triumvirate of wasters mind, they could well be beyond salvaging.

As I said last year the thought of some Villa fans using the name "Sparky" is enough to put me off.

I suppose Spar-koy sounds better than Spar-keh.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 22, 2011, 10:32:03 PM
You'd grow to like it Chris.

'If Sparky thinks he's a good player I trust his judgement ahead of anyone on this site.'  (winky effort)
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TheSandman on March 22, 2011, 10:34:52 PM
I don't think Sparky would be a bad choice I just, for some irrational reason, don't want him to get the job.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 10:36:30 PM
I don't think Sparky would be a bad choice I just, for some irrational reason, don't want him to get the job.

Nothing irrational about it, he's an irritating prick.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 22, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
I don't think Sparky would be a bad choice I just, for some irrational reason, don't want him to get the job.

It's not irrational.When I think of him I just think draw merchant
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: ROBBO on March 22, 2011, 10:37:28 PM
Is anyone else suprised that with all the vitriol flying around nineteen percent still voted for Houllier?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Shrek on March 22, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
I don't think Mark Hughes coming in and making all the high earners want to stay is what Randy is really looking for.

I still think that Houllier will be here next season after a massive turn around in players.

Obviously if we stay up.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TheSandman on March 22, 2011, 10:42:31 PM
Is anyone else suprised that with all the vitriol flying around nineteen percent still voted for Houllier?

Not really. I can see that some people believe in his vision and I can understand them feeling that if we stay up he'll have earned the right to continue.

At the end if the day if we stay up which this poll presupposes I won't be upset if he stays. I'd just prefer Jol, Moyes or Coyle to be our manager. If we go down and he stays though I will be well pissed off.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 22, 2011, 10:43:25 PM
Not sure houllier will be here even if we survive shrek, we will have to wait and see but I think he may well go either way .
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on March 22, 2011, 10:45:10 PM
I don't think Sparky would be a bad choice I just, for some irrational reason, don't want him to get the job.

Nothing irrational about it, he's an irritating prick.

Is that worse than an irritable  prick? :)
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 22, 2011, 10:52:53 PM
I don't think Sparky would be a bad choice I just, for some irrational reason, don't want him to get the job.

Nothing irrational about it, he's an irritating prick.

Is that worse than an irritable  prick? :)

Yes, but not as bad as an irritated prick.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 22, 2011, 10:53:08 PM
If we go down... Poyet. Plays decent football but seems to have the bottle for a promotion push too. Unless Brighton blow it, in which case someone else.

If we stay up... ideally Hiddink. Perhaps more realistically Coyle, wouldn't mind Eriksson at a push. Not sure about Moyes as don't see him as a step-up from O'Neill. However, it would show that we mean business and maybe convince more stars to sign for us so I'd be in favour.

Please God no to McDonald, Cowans, Curbishley, Benitez and Fucking Allardyce.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 22, 2011, 10:54:40 PM
If we go down (Christ I hate saying that) I wouldn't mind Paul Lambert.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 22, 2011, 11:19:59 PM
I expect Houllier to still be at the club in August with a completely new team. But should Randy et al blow it up, then a real push for Moyes might be the best option. Moyes isn't perfect, and I'm still very worried about his ability to spend big money, as a good number of his big money moves haven't exactly panned out. That said, he's the right age, and he'd be at a club that can take him to where he wants to be. He's aggressive and can spot talent in the lower leagues, plus he'll also have no issue bringing kids through. I think he fits the mould to what we we're trying to do perfectly. I never thought for a minute he'd have quit on his club in August, but he might be tempted in June/July.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 22, 2011, 11:27:00 PM
There's always a totally irrational reason to dislike managers, and therefore rule them out.

Coyle - funny hair. There's something not quite right about it.
Moyes - looks like someone from Lord of the Rings. Stares too much.
Allardyce - stupid fucking bluetooth ear piece (plus about 6,000 valid football reasons)
O'Neill - well, where to begin on this one, there's no need for the irrationals, they're all entirely rational in his case.
Kevin Mac, Sid - out of respect, I shall decline to comment.
Hughes - looks far too much like Ailsa from Home and Away.
Jol - looks too much like Mutley from Dastardly and Mutley.

Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 22, 2011, 11:28:05 PM
I expect Houllier to still be at the club in August with a completely new team. But should Randy et al blow it up, then a real push for Moyes might be the best option. Moyes isn't perfect, and I'm still very worried about his ability to spend big money, as a good number of his big money moves haven't exactly panned out. That said, he's the right age, and he'd be at a club that can take him to where he wants to be. He's aggressive and can spot talent in the lower leagues, plus he'll also have no issue bringing kids through. I think he fits the mould to what we we're trying to do perfectly. I never thought for a minute he'd have quit on his club in August, but he might be tempted in June/July.

Moyes' main problem is that he can't buy a decent striker. Fortunately, we've got a really good, really expensive one already here.

I like him (irrational concerns as outlined above apart). If we do have a new manager, and we stay up, my money is going on him.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 22, 2011, 11:33:54 PM
I expect Houllier to still be at the club in August with a completely new team. But should Randy et al blow it up, then a real push for Moyes might be the best option. Moyes isn't perfect, and I'm still very worried about his ability to spend big money, as a good number of his big money moves haven't exactly panned out. That said, he's the right age, and he'd be at a club that can take him to where he wants to be. He's aggressive and can spot talent in the lower leagues, plus he'll also have no issue bringing kids through. I think he fits the mould to what we we're trying to do perfectly. I never thought for a minute he'd have quit on his club in August, but he might be tempted in June/July.

Moyes' main problem is that he can't buy a decent striker. Fortunately, we've got a really good, really expensive one already here.

I like him (irrational concerns as outlined above apart). If we do have a new manager, and we stay up, my money is going on him.

I think it should be written into his contract that he's not allowed to buy forwards for the club. That this task be handed to off to someone else. The janitor, even tea lady. Nicola Keye comes to mind as a better choice. But on everything else he'd be a solid apppointment.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 23, 2011, 08:58:04 AM
surprised by the voting that 3 times more people prefer houllier to sparky hughes, coyle and moyes leading the way is about right i think.

maybe if owen coyle  got his false teeth reset it would appease his knockers?

interestingly gus hiddink has said hes about to quit turkey apparently.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 23, 2011, 09:02:10 AM
If we go down, you'd probably need a different list of poytential managers because none of the above would come. The short list then would be the likes of Curbishley, Southgate, Hughton, Jewell, Burley, Davies, Clough, Coleman etc etc
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 23, 2011, 09:03:20 AM
If we go down, you'd probably need a different list of poytential managers because none of the above would come. The short list then would be the likes of Curbishley, Southgate, Hughton, Jewell, Burley, Davies, Clough, Coleman etc etc

oh wiki, you always have to spoil things!
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 23, 2011, 09:04:11 AM
I'd go Clough out of that list
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 23, 2011, 09:09:40 AM
I'd go Clough out of that list
You're taking the piss.
He's been terrible at Derby.
Took him ages to get Burton into the League and only did it when he was given £.

He's shown absolutely nothing to prove he could be a decent manager.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Risso on March 23, 2011, 09:10:36 AM
There's always a totally irrational reason to dislike managers, and therefore rule them out.

Coyle - funny hair. There's something not quite right about it.
Moyes - looks like someone from Lord of the Rings. Stares too much.
Allardyce - stupid fucking bluetooth ear piece (plus about 6,000 valid football reasons)
O'Neill - well, where to begin on this one, there's no need for the irrationals, they're all entirely rational in his case.
Kevin Mac, Sid - out of respect, I shall decline to comment.
Hughes - looks far too much like Ailsa from Home and Away.
Jol - looks too much like Mutley from Dastardly and Mutley.



Curbishley - has that annoying Cockney trait of saying Burmenum.  If you can't pronounce the name of the city you work in, you shouldn't be allowed in.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 23, 2011, 09:27:17 AM
who the fack voted Houlier

Me.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: OzVilla on March 23, 2011, 09:30:04 AM
I expect Houllier to still be at the club in August with a completely new team. But should Randy et al blow it up, then a real push for Moyes might be the best option. Moyes isn't perfect, and I'm still very worried about his ability to spend big money, as a good number of his big money moves haven't exactly panned out. That said, he's the right age, and he'd be at a club that can take him to where he wants to be. He's aggressive and can spot talent in the lower leagues, plus he'll also have no issue bringing kids through. I think he fits the mould to what we we're trying to do perfectly. I never thought for a minute he'd have quit on his club in August, but he might be tempted in June/July.

Moyes' main problem is that he can't buy a decent striker. Fortunately, we've got a really good, really expensive one already here.

I like him (irrational concerns as outlined above apart). If we do have a new manager, and we stay up, my money is going on him.

Yep agree with all of the above.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 23, 2011, 09:37:22 AM
Moyes will probably have his eyes on a step up the ladder so either the Spurs job when Arry joins the England camp or Ci£y when Mancini gets the bullett
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Mr Diggles on March 23, 2011, 09:45:39 AM
who the fack voted Houlier

Me.

Me too.

If we stay up he deserves a little more time. More uncertainy and changes off the field is exactly what Villa does not need this summer, unless it is absolutely necessary.

If we go down then I think all his supporters will have no excuses, and the club will need drastic change.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 23, 2011, 10:08:00 AM
Not sure who i want but i know who i don't want.

Hughes for starters. Arent there parallels between what he's done aty Fulham amnd what Houllier has done with us? inherited a relativelty sound side and put them in reverse?

And what worried me about us if we do stay up is that houllier will be given more time instead of being sacked on the spot when the final whistle blows in May.


By the way, Moyes reminds me of E.T.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 23, 2011, 10:08:59 AM
I'd go Clough out of that list
You're taking the piss.
He's been terrible at Derby.
Took him ages to get Burton into the League and only did it when he was given £.

He's shown absolutely nothing to prove he could be a decent manager.

And he's a whining little shit as well.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on March 23, 2011, 10:13:06 AM
Voted other- like the idea of Grayson. I'd be pleased with Coyle or Moyes as well. In fact anyone but Houllier
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 23, 2011, 10:44:32 AM
I voted other, Not sure who I wan't, Jol isn't the messiah he's belived to be, Moyes style football? He's just like MON in that sense I think.

Coyle? Hmm Bolton's a good gig, Low expectation, he'd come here lose one and everyone would be slagging off the chairman saying what was he thinking
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on March 23, 2011, 11:06:40 AM
Dragon Stoykavich
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 23, 2011, 11:20:41 AM
If were still in the Prem,id go for,Coyle,Laudrap,if were not Poyet or Lambert.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 23, 2011, 11:23:35 AM
Quote
If were still in the Prem,id go for,Coyle,Laudrap,if were not Poyet or Lambert

What about Paul Lambert and Lee Butler

Or George Benson and former journeyman footballer Glyn Hodges
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 23, 2011, 11:39:31 AM
Quote
If were still in the Prem,id go for,Coyle,Laudrap,if were not Poyet or Lambert

What about Paul Lambert and Lee Butler

Or George Benson and former journeyman footballer Glyn Hodges
Very good,if only there was two coaches with Silk and Cut for surenames.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 23, 2011, 11:42:46 AM
Quote
If were still in the Prem,id go for,Coyle,Laudrap,if were not Poyet or Lambert

What about Paul Lambert and Lee Butler

Or George Benson and former journeyman footballer Glyn Hodges

I'd go for Ji-Sung Park and Minnie Driver.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 23, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
Neil Lennon and Mick McCarthy?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 23, 2011, 11:50:41 AM
Richard Roth and Perry Mans for me.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: JJ-AV on March 23, 2011, 11:50:54 AM
I think Coyle fits the bill more than Moyes. It's still a long term project and he's shown with Wilshere, Mark Davies, and Sturridge that he's willing to put his faith in younger players and let them have the freedom to play in their own style and put their own stamp on it. Something our kids would surely enjoy. But his teams also have a nasty streak (Alexander and Bikey at Burnley and now K.Davies, Wheater, Robinson and Holden at Bolton).

He's obviously not as well connected as Houllier, but he's pulled a couple of highly rated youngsters from abroad out at Bolton. Rodrigo looks to have something about him, although he had a shocker with the young left back (Alonso?)

His best attribute is the way he's improved players, the vast majority of the side was there under Megson. People thought Megson got a rough deal considering the results he got. The team is pretty much the same and Coyle has them battling for Europe. It's a similar situation here, if he could come in and connect with the players like Houllier's been unable to then we'd surely be better for it.

Moyes would show we're still a draw, but the complaints Everton fans have of him are very MON-esque. Plays players out of position with frustrating results and isn't expansive enough.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 23, 2011, 11:57:32 AM
Yes jj- but what about his Ill fitting false gnashers?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TonyD on March 23, 2011, 12:18:28 PM
It has to be the special one.   Throw lots of cash at the man.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 23, 2011, 12:19:26 PM
If Houllier gets the chop in the summer, I would bet my boots that Moyes will get the job.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 23, 2011, 12:21:40 PM
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If Houllier gets the chop in the summer, I would bet my boots that Moyes will get the job.

could well happen.

Need to consider the fact that the England Job will be up for grabs in just over a year as well. If Harry escapes from Wormwood Scrubs and ends up getting the job, the whole merry go round could change things again.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Dave P on March 23, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
If we were going up and coming, I'd say Simon Grayson but the safe option is Jol.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 23, 2011, 12:22:26 PM
Tony - surely you don't seriously  think mourinho would come here ?

Moyes would only come if we avoid relegation. In some ways it would be easier taking on a bottom 6 team left by houllier than taking over a top 6 team left my mon- the expectations wouldn't be so great and a top 10 position next year could be counted as progress.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on March 23, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
Dragon Stoykavich

Next Arsenal manager.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 23, 2011, 12:39:01 PM
If Houllier gets the chop in the summer, I would bet my boots that Moyes will get the job.

Will Moyes consider dropping down a division, as I've a feeling that there'll only be a vacancy if we get relegated?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TonyD on March 23, 2011, 01:03:45 PM
Tony - surely you don't seriously  think mourinho would come here ?

Moyes would only come if we avoid relegation. In some ways it would be easier taking on a bottom 6 team left by houllier than taking over a top 6 team left my mon- the expectations wouldn't be so great and a top 10 position next year could be counted as progress.
He likes a challenge and Balti pies are a great lure. 
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 23, 2011, 01:07:08 PM
What's with all the bias against the English managers?

It's like the England job all over.

People write off the likes of Allardyce and Curbishley but why?

They've done more than Coyle, Hughton, Lambert, Poyet etc.

Personally I don't want another foreign manager after the Houllier debacle.

I think the next manager should be British.

I don't think that a British manager would have disrespected the club in the same way that Houllier has.

So even though they seem to be unpopular (because they're English?), I'd be happy with Allardyce, Curbishley, McClaren, Hughes (I know he's Welsh) etc.

I feel that English managers should be given a chance at the bigger clubs (of which we are one) as they are always disregarded for foreign managers - Jol, Van Gaal, Riijkard, Ranieri etc.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 23, 2011, 01:16:43 PM
Theyve only done more because they've been managers for longer. Lambert is on the verge of two back to back promotions,playing great football,he's a european cup winner as well.

Allardyce style of football is even worse than M'ON,did you see Blackburn this season?



Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 23, 2011, 01:31:21 PM
Theyve only done more because they've been managers for longer. Lambert is on the verge of two back to back promotions,playing great football,he's a european cup winner as well.

Allardyce style of football is even worse than M'ON,did you see Blackburn this season?

Allardyce says he has only played direct football because of the clubs he has been at and the resources he has had at his disposal.

You don't know for certain that he would play the same way with the quality of players he would have had Villa.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: russon on March 23, 2011, 01:34:59 PM
O'Neill for me, should never have allowed the relationship with him to have soured to the point that it did.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 23, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
Thats true,but the football he played at Newcastle was a bit ropey. Coyle plays better football at Bolton than Big Sam or Megson ever did.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Dave on March 23, 2011, 01:45:19 PM
It has to be the special one.   Throw lots of cash at the man.
Anyone who calls Mourinho that in a serious tone of voice deserves to be strung up by their knackers.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: tremzvillain on March 23, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
Would like to see Jol in, but Coyle is a good shout, too.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: TonyD on March 23, 2011, 02:02:18 PM
It has to be the special one.   Throw lots of cash at the man.
Anyone who calls Mourinho that in a serious tone of voice deserves to be strung up by their knackers.
It was said in a suedo foreign girly voice.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Eigentor on March 23, 2011, 02:36:52 PM
According to the odds at Sky Bet, favourites for being the next permanent Villa manager are Sam Allardyce and Rafa Benitez.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 23, 2011, 02:38:04 PM
According to the odds at Sky Bet, favourites for being the next permanent Villa manager are Sam Allardyce and Rafa Benitez.

Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Concrete John on March 23, 2011, 02:53:03 PM
According to the odds at Sky Bet, favourites for being the next permanent Villa manager are Sam Allardyce and Rafa Benitez.

Unsurprisingly they have gone for the high profile manager's currently out of a job.  No thought behind it and about as reliable as our poll as to who it would be if Gezza goes.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Eigentor on March 23, 2011, 02:57:06 PM
According to the odds at Sky Bet, favourites for being the next permanent Villa manager are Sam Allardyce and Rafa Benitez.

Unsurprisingly they have gone for the high profile manager's currently out of a job.  No thought behind it and about as reliable as our poll as to who it would be if Gezza goes.

I don't think GH will go/be sacked, but if he does, I can imagine that the board will be looking for a manager with PL experience that is currently out of a job.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 23, 2011, 03:04:47 PM
I'd rather someone with NO Liverpool connections next season thanks
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 23, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
According to the odds at Sky Bet, favourites for being the next permanent Villa manager are Sam Allardyce and Rafa Benitez.

Unsurprisingly they have gone for the high profile manager's currently out of a job.  No thought behind it and about as reliable as our poll as to who it would be if Gezza goes.

Depends how long they've been running that market, really, the prices will start to follow the money soon enough.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: The Left Side on March 23, 2011, 03:45:34 PM
Can't see Coyle or Moyes coming to Villa, especially how this season has gone... Jol looks a steady one for me.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 23, 2011, 03:48:45 PM
Fuck me Rafa?

Can you imagine that? Especially after all the grief we've given him.

He can stick his mickey mouse socks up his fucking arse, we don't want another clown
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 23, 2011, 03:57:49 PM
Fuck me Rafa?

Can you imagine that? Especially after all the grief we've given him.

He can stick his mickey mouse socks up his fucking arse, we don't want another clown
Not keen either, but he DID win the Holy grail.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on March 23, 2011, 04:10:57 PM
According to the odds at Sky Bet, favourites for being the next permanent Villa manager are Sam Allardyce and Rafa Benitez.

Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans.

I'd rather have the melted boy and his dog
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Eigentor on March 23, 2011, 04:11:48 PM
Fuck me Rafa?

Can you imagine that? Especially after all the grief we've given him.

He can stick his mickey mouse socks up his fucking arse, we don't want another clown
Not keen either, but he DID win the Holy grail.

With "Houllier's team".

Oh, well.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Dr Butler on March 23, 2011, 04:15:06 PM
Fuck me Rafa?

Can you imagine that? Especially after all the grief we've given him.

He can stick his mickey mouse socks up his fucking arse, we don't want another clown
Not keen either, but he DID win the Holy grail.

 4th place ?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 23, 2011, 04:49:03 PM
Fuck me Rafa?

Can you imagine that? Especially after all the grief we've given him.

He can stick his mickey mouse socks up his fucking arse, we don't want another clown
Not keen either, but he DID win the Holy grail.

With "Houllier's team".

Oh, well.

Ha ha ha, oh, the sheer irony of that!
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 23, 2011, 04:52:00 PM
Fuck me Rafa?

Can you imagine that? Especially after all the grief we've given him.

He can stick his mickey mouse socks up his fucking arse, we don't want another clown
Not keen either, but he DID win the Holy grail.

if anyone thinks GH's fawning over his former suitors was bad, just wait to see how bad it would be if the hero Rafa goes back up there.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: nico2708 on March 23, 2011, 06:11:40 PM
what about
Capello
van gaal
hiddink
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Moorski on March 23, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
No chance of any of them 3 coming to Villa.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Des Little on March 23, 2011, 06:23:24 PM
Who in God's name has voted for Houllier?  Haven't we learned already that the man is totally and utterly inept?  I'm stunned he's got one vote.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: nico2708 on March 23, 2011, 06:24:58 PM
No chance of any of them 3 coming to Villa.
ok then, whatabout

McClaren
zola
klinsmann
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on March 23, 2011, 06:30:31 PM
Capello?

Are you having a laugh?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 23, 2011, 06:48:42 PM
Who in God's name has voted for Houllier?  Haven't we learned already that the man is totally and utterly inept?  I'm stunned he's got one vote.

It's beyond belief. All I can think is he's worn a few people down
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Eigentor on March 23, 2011, 06:51:06 PM
Who in God's name has voted for Houllier?  Haven't we learned already that the man is totally and utterly inept?  I'm stunned he's got one vote.

It's beyond belief. All I can think is he's worn a few people down

So you log onto a message board, and people have different opinions. It's amazing.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 23, 2011, 07:00:31 PM
Yes. Shocking, isn't it?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on March 23, 2011, 08:00:37 PM
Who in God's name has voted for Houllier?  Haven't we learned already that the man is totally and utterly inept?  I'm stunned he's got one vote.

It's beyond belief. All I can think is he's worn a few people down

So you log onto a message board, and people have different opinions. It's amazing.
Especially when it is "as clear as a bell" ........
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 23, 2011, 08:04:00 PM
Ron Knee.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Louzie0 on March 23, 2011, 10:06:59 PM
Michael Caine, as player manager.
I'd rather he didn't break Brad Friedel's arm, though.  We're running out of defence.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: atomicjam on March 23, 2011, 10:14:23 PM
Who in God's name has voted for Houllier?  Haven't we learned already that the man is totally and utterly inept?  I'm stunned he's got one vote.

It's beyond belief. All I can think is he's worn a few people down

Its not beyong belief, some people want him as manager. Why cannot some people just accept that others do not think like them. There are reasons to back GH, I didn't in this poll (I voted for another- I don't know what I want!) but I undestand why people might want him to have another season. There are reasons to not back him obviously- but its up to each person to decide what they feel is the best option.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 23, 2011, 10:14:59 PM
For those that don't want Rafa, remember this little fact -

The year after he took over from Houllier at Liverpool they won the European Cup.

It's a sign.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 23, 2011, 10:21:10 PM
Is the Anglo-Italian still going? We could win that.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 23, 2011, 10:23:37 PM
It's an interesting thought VS.

Sadly, unless at least 13 of the teams in our division go bust by August, I don't think there will be a repeat.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: mr woo on March 24, 2011, 06:19:58 PM
Dragon Stoykavich

Next Arsenal manager.

Ok, can we have their old one then?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 24, 2011, 07:02:54 PM
Dragon Stoykavich

Next Arsenal manager.

Ok, can we have their old one then?

My guess is he'll replace Man Utd bound Mourinho at Madrid, season after next.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: JD on March 25, 2011, 03:49:50 AM
Who in God's name has voted for Houllier?  Haven't we learned already that the man is totally and utterly inept?  I'm stunned he's got one vote.

It's beyond belief. All I can think is he's worn a few people down

So you log onto a message board, and people have different opinions. It's amazing.

If we stay up I would like to see Houllier get rid of the overrated and overpaid dickheads and continue to build a new squad.
If we go down, then he should be hung, drawn and quartered.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Villa'Zawg on March 25, 2011, 07:29:22 AM
 nico2708: what about
Capello
van gaal
hiddink   

Moorski: No chance of any of them 3 coming to Villa.
------------------

And yet Malaga FC appointed Pellegrini a few weeks after we appointed Houllier. I'm not sure I understand why Villa shouldn't be able to attract a much better manager than the ones in the poll.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: murgsy on March 25, 2011, 09:28:52 AM
I know he has just signed a new deal with the FA but Pearce seems to do a good job with the U21's - we have good young players. He is passionate. Seems a good combo
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 25, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
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I know he has just signed a new deal with the FA but Pearce seems to do a good job with the U21's - we have good young players. He is passionate. Seems a good combo

His club managerial career has been disastrous so far though. He took Forest down and was the worst manager Man City have had for a long time. And they've had plenty of shit managers to choose from at Man City.

Although he might come in handy if a fuse blows in the dressing room at half time or the training ground needs re-wiring
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 26, 2011, 03:57:54 AM
If we have to go down this route how about a klinnsmann and Poyet double act?
I think the vision klinnsmann introduced whilst the Germany manager is in line with Randy's long term strategy and crucially exactly what Villa need.

On the flip side I doubt Klinnsmann would want to be here - on the training pitch - 100% of the time so an able and enthusiastic deputy would be required. If klinnsmann played with Poyet (?? At spurs ??) then that would be a good match. Alternatively I think Southgate's studios manner would compliment Klinnsmann's enthusiasm.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: godzvilla on March 26, 2011, 06:30:16 AM
Who in God's name has voted for Houllier?  Haven't we learned already that the man is totally and utterly inept?  I'm stunned he's got one vote.

It's beyond belief. All I can think is he's worn a few people down

So you log onto a message board, and people have different opinions. It's amazing.

If we stay up I would like to see Houllier get rid of the overrated and overpaid dickheads and continue to build a new squad.
If we go down, then he should be hung, drawn and quartered.

For what its worth JD , I,m with you on this . According to this mornings Daily Heil 8 of our Senior pro,s  , the afore mentioned " overated and overpaid dickheads " and we know who they are  , want out in the Summer . Gabby apart , I would,nt miss any of them so good riddance , no one is bigger than the Club , no one !................................... Godzvilla
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Shrek on March 26, 2011, 06:47:59 AM
Sun reporting Rafa Benitez.

What a joke, he won CL then messed up all the good work Houllier had done.

Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Ian. on March 26, 2011, 06:49:18 AM
Who is on this list of 8? I really would like us to keep Gabby, I hope he is not on it. I thought the other day he wanted to stay here for life, if possible?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Shrek on March 26, 2011, 07:40:27 AM
Brad Friedel: "There has been a set of rules here for as long as I have been at the club, as there is at every club and probably most, if not all, work environments. The suggestion that I am in revolt - or any player is in revolt - over new rules is laughable. There are no new rules of any substance that I am aware of and the vast majority of what is in the rule book is something which was agreed years ago in conjunction with the PFA in any case. Supporters need to know there is nothing in this story. I`m committed to the club and our objectives and I`ve trained all week along with my team-mates who are not involved in internationals. The focus has been on getting ready for a big game against Everton and this is what we`re concentrated on."
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 07:41:21 AM
Not sure there were any direct quotes in that mail piece about the 8 ??
Probably a load of old codswallop
As posted earlier gabby was quoted as saying he's here for life ideally
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 07:43:53 AM
Friedel covering his arse as he can't afford a two week fine
Nice to hear it though
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Nev on March 26, 2011, 08:37:42 AM
Benitez being linked gives me the same feeling that I had when Houlliers name first cropped up.

And it wasn't a positive one.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on March 26, 2011, 09:00:43 AM
Benitez being linked gives me the same feeling that I had when Houlliers name first cropped up.

And it wasn't a positive one.

Benitez being linked gives me stomachache. No, no, no, no, and once again no.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 26, 2011, 09:12:37 AM
Not sure there were any direct quotes in that mail piece about the 8 ??
Probably a load of old codswallop
As posted earlier gabby was quoted as saying he's here for life ideally

Friedel covering his arse as he can't afford a two week fine
Nice to hear it though

So in one breath you're saying it's bollocks, yet in the other you're saying that Friedel is only saying it to avoid a fine?

You are a fucking troll.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 26, 2011, 09:25:27 AM
Eh? Chill man ! The friedel fine comment was Tongue in cheek !
I said it was a positive and good to hear a player speak out against this media agenda
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: eastie on March 26, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
Not sure there were any direct quotes in that mail piece about the 8 ??
Probably a load of old codswallop
As posted earlier gabby was quoted as saying he's here for life ideally

Friedel covering his arse as he can't afford a two week fine
Nice to hear it though

So in one breath you're saying it's bollocks, yet in the other you're saying that Friedel is only saying it to avoid a fine?

You are a fucking troll.

A tad harsh vs, im sure wiki wasnt being nasty about it  and it was tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Monty on March 26, 2011, 10:50:18 AM
I said Klinnsmann or Bilic in the summer, and I'm saying Klinnsmann or Bilic again now. GH should have a director role, not DoF perhaps but not far off, in order to implement all his ideas, because there's no problem with those - he just doesn't quite have that madness, that fire which you need to be a top manager. He can reorganise the club's infrastructure, emphasise the youth system even more perhaps, be involved in the transfer process, along with the manager, and so on. But we need someone with similar ideas but perhaps more of that will to succeed which players respond to.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 26, 2011, 11:41:43 AM
What have Klinsmann and Bilic done in the game to deserve the job?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 26, 2011, 12:03:54 PM
Be interested to see a poll  ..    Houlier or Benitez     
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 26, 2011, 01:21:12 PM
Wouldn't have minded Klinsmann last summer.

Could even see an argument a few months back for GH in a DOF role and a Coyle or  perhaps even a Laudrup in a more hands on coaching/management capacity.

But I think now if GH goes, he has to go completely.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Shrek on March 26, 2011, 01:36:12 PM
What have Klinsmann and Bilic done in the game to deserve the job?

In reality does that matter? See Houllier and what he has done, everyone wants him out.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 26, 2011, 01:43:17 PM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 26, 2011, 02:15:49 PM
I said Klinnsmann or Bilic in the summer, and I'm saying Klinnsmann or Bilic again now. GH should have a director role, not DoF perhaps but not far off, in order to implement all his ideas, because there's no problem with those - he just doesn't quite have that madness, that fire which you need to be a top manager. He can reorganise the club's infrastructure, emphasise the youth system even more perhaps, be involved in the transfer process, along with the manager, and so on. But we need someone with similar ideas but perhaps more of that will to succeed which players respond to.

Agree completely. *What* Houllier has tried to introduce is exactly what villa need in my opinion. The failure is *how* he had gone about it. I just dont think he has the guile, energy for the fight or indeed the charm to be both training ground coach and a strategic manager of the infrastructure of the whole club. Fair play to him it was a huge ask of any individual and he's not been shy about trying to change things.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on March 26, 2011, 02:44:50 PM
I don't want to see Houllier fired, but I would like to see him moved upstairs and let him help the young and hungry hot management prospect. I want to see what happens in summer transfer windows.

And Rafa - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I think if you pick any football mad Spanish waiter off the street he will do a better job than Rafa. He mess up Liverpool and Inter Milan.

Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Mister E on March 26, 2011, 03:05:54 PM
I voted for Coyle but I think there might be a role for Hou as Director of Football with a younger manager below him (but not McAllister) - candidates like Coyle (although I couldn't see him accepting that role), Grayson, Lambert and perhaps even KMac.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 26, 2011, 03:15:21 PM
I'd like Bilic as mentioned above. Not that I think he'd be any good but for his air of louche insouciance, standing in the dug-out smoking a fag and reading a 1950s pulp detective novel.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on March 26, 2011, 03:21:30 PM



   I think GH will resign/moved upstairs in the summer, and expect Coyle or someone like him, to be brought in.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 26, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
The danger is GH's spell in charge has been so poor, no budding (or even pretty experienced) manager will want to come in and be associated with it.

If GH had even been average, a Coyle or similar might be more inclined to work under (or be loosely associated with) a bloke who's CV wasn't too bad until he pitched up at VP.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: 5ft811st2 Durham on March 27, 2011, 12:12:52 AM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2011, 12:15:53 AM
And Rafa - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I think if you pick any football mad Spanish waiter off the street he will do a better job than Rafa. He mess up Liverpool and Inter Milan.

In a win-the-Champions-League-type way.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Louzie0 on March 27, 2011, 12:31:58 AM
I'd like Bilic as mentioned above. Not that I think he'd be any good but for his air of louche insouciance, standing in the dug-out smoking a fag and reading a 1950s pulp detective novel.

on this basis I'd like Bilic as well.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 27, 2011, 04:33:31 AM
I'd like Bilic as mentioned above. Not that I think he'd be any good but for his air of louche insouciance, standing in the dug-out smoking a fag and reading a 1950s pulp detective novel.

on this basis I'd like Bilic as well.

Me too. Anyone who can get smoking at Villa Park legalised gets my vote. God knows I need something for the stress. A few weeks ago a steward banned me from even rolling one to light up on my way home. I said "Show me the rule that says I can't roll a fag and I'll stop". He said 'some people don't like the smell of the tobacco', so I said 'you brush your teeth and I'll stop rolling fags'.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Louzie0 on March 27, 2011, 04:47:52 AM
I'd like Bilic as mentioned above. Not that I think he'd be any good but for his air of louche insouciance, standing in the dug-out smoking a fag and reading a 1950s pulp detective novel.

on this basis I'd like Bilic as well.

Me too. Anyone who can get smoking at Villa Park legalised gets my vote. God knows I need something for the stress. A few weeks ago a steward banned me from even rolling one to light up on my way home. I said "Show me the rule that says I can't roll a fag and I'll stop". He said 'some people don't like the smell of the tobacco', so I said 'you brush your teeth and I'll stop rolling fags'.

yes and if he's reading raymond chandler as well...
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Legion on March 27, 2011, 09:15:35 AM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.

83% is not 100% which would be everyone.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Chris Smith on March 27, 2011, 09:27:16 AM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.

83% is not 100% which would be everyone.

The other poll, the one that asks specifically should he be sacked, has a small majority in favour of keeping him at least until the end of the season.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 27, 2011, 09:29:43 AM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.

83% is not 100% which would be everyone.

You could always put Ron Saunders in, then even 100% wouldnt be everyone.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: tricky dicky on March 27, 2011, 09:56:30 AM
i wolud like either owen coyle or paul lambert
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: WikiVilla on March 27, 2011, 10:07:37 AM
Coyle would be good, how much would we have to pay Bolton in compensation though ?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: brian green on March 27, 2011, 10:24:26 AM
Haven't we got a sell on clause on Cahill?   He seems sure to be cashed in on by Bolton while the London tabloids still love him and scoring two goals against our comedy defending is considered a big deal.

Say they get fifteen million, perhaps our cut would be enough of a spoils pile to oil a Coyle trial.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: VillaZogmariner on March 27, 2011, 11:16:06 AM
Paul Jewell
Danny Wilson
Aidy Boothroyd
Phil Brown
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: E I Adio on March 27, 2011, 11:28:44 AM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.

83% is not 100% which would be everyone.


I love statistics. You can prove anything by selective quoting. How about this one:

The most popular pick of the alternatives to replace GH is Owen Coyle and 79.7% don't want him.

Is this "pretty conclusive" or just "fairly conclusive"?
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 27, 2011, 05:00:05 PM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.

83% is not 100% which would be everyone.


I love statistics. You can prove anything by selective quoting. How about this one:

The most popular pick of the alternatives to replace GH is Owen Coyle and 79.7% don't want him.

Is this "pretty conclusive" or just "fairly conclusive"?

There is no evidence to say conclusively that 79.7% don't want him. That amount, however, did not suggest him as their first choice. Maybe 70 - 80% of that 79.7% would have him as their second choice, and the rest as their third choice. If this was the case, he would still be a popular choice don't you think? This is if's and but's however, and only a more detailed survey would give us a firm conclusion.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: E I Adio on March 27, 2011, 05:13:47 PM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.

83% is not 100% which would be everyone.


I love statistics. You can prove anything by selective quoting. How about this one:

The most popular pick of the alternatives to replace GH is Owen Coyle and 79.7% don't want him.

Is this "pretty conclusive" or just "fairly conclusive"?

There is no evidence to say conclusively that 79.7% don't want him. That amount, however, did not suggest him as their first choice. Maybe 70 - 80% of that 79.7% would have him as their second choice, and the rest as their third choice. If this was the case, he would still be a popular choice don't you think? This is if's and but's however, and only a more detailed survey would give us a firm conclusion.

I was really just pointing out that it's not possible to draw such firm conclusions from so little information.

I think Coyle is a promising manager.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 27, 2011, 05:15:36 PM
Everyone? The poll seems to suggest otherwise.

83% don't want him which is pretty conclusive.

83% is not 100% which would be everyone.


I love statistics. You can prove anything by selective quoting. How about this one:

The most popular pick of the alternatives to replace GH is Owen Coyle and 79.7% don't want him.

Is this "pretty conclusive" or just "fairly conclusive"?

There is no evidence to say conclusively that 79.7% don't want him. That amount, however, did not suggest him as their first choice. Maybe 70 - 80% of that 79.7% would have him as their second choice, and the rest as their third choice. If this was the case, he would still be a popular choice don't you think? This is if's and but's however, and only a more detailed survey would give us a firm conclusion.

I was really just pointing out that it's not possible to draw such firm conclusions from so little information.

I think Coyle is a promising manager.

Agree and Agree.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Steve67 on March 27, 2011, 05:39:52 PM
I wouldn't mind Houllier moving "upstairs", he could be useful in that position whilst we sort of the rest of the club.  Perhaps that was a part of the plan?  Building the legacy is what Paul Faulkner called it, I believe.

As for the next Manager, appoint someone already in the Premier Division, why bother taking a risk with someone who hasn't ben there for a while or never managed in the Prem?  We did that with Houllier and look where it got us.  For me, it's Coyle, Hughes or Moyes with Bruce a very outside bet.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on March 27, 2011, 05:42:51 PM
I still think it's early days to say Coyle is a good manager.

Let's see if he can have a second good season with them, or make the FA Cup final this year.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: The Left Side on March 28, 2011, 03:57:26 AM
Moyes isn't a bad shout but Coyle might not come as he has no affiliation with the Villa, I don't want Benitez though please.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: lukey27 on March 28, 2011, 12:05:01 PM
There's some really good British-based managers out there.
Owen Coyle
David Moyes
Paul Lambert
Gus Poyet

Really depends what league we're in, but I wouldn't have thought there's much chance of Houllier still being in charge come June whatever happens in the next 8 games.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: BlueNoseBadger on March 29, 2011, 05:13:51 PM
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I know he has just signed a new deal with the FA but Pearce seems to do a good job with the U21's - we have good young players. He is passionate. Seems a good combo

His club managerial career has been disastrous so far though. He took Forest down and was the worst manager Man City have had for a long time. And they've had plenty of shit managers to choose from at Man City.

Although he might come in handy if a fuse blows in the dressing room at half time or the training ground needs re-wiring

Not a wind-up, but I reckon Pearce might not be a bad shout for you lot
According to your Finances, you may need to cut your cloth over the next few seasons, so he would be good at bringing on the youngsters, and likely to play them in their correct positions.
Likewise, you need a root-and-branch clear-out of the egos - he's not likely to stand for any crap
He's got the passion to fire up his teams when the going gets tough, and to emphasise the importanace of cup competitions
He's likely to bolster you defensively, (I was surprised at GH's January signings, as it seemed obvious your issues were in the back 4 - ill-discipline/fitness etc)
- as an aside Saturday's International was an interesting reflection : you have the English attack, but the Welsh defence!

I agree tho' that his tenure at Man City was dodgy, but with his increased maturity, and where you guys are in terms of transition at the moment, he  might be the man to turn you around??
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 29, 2011, 05:30:25 PM
According to your Finances, you may need to cut your cloth over the next few seasons

According to your finances, the only cloth you're going to be dealing with will be your death shroud.
Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: Merv on March 29, 2011, 05:34:56 PM
Moyes for me - predictable choice but then I think the guy would be the right man at the right time for us. He'd make us much tougher to beat, for starters, and then he'd get us moving in the right direction again. With the way things stand for us, I wouldn't want to contemplate anyone who is not either not a current Premier League manager with a proven record, or a very recent PL manager with a proven record. No newcomers or gambles, please.

Title: Re: The 'who do you want' thread
Post by: BlueNoseBadger on March 29, 2011, 05:37:43 PM
According to your Finances, you may need to cut your cloth over the next few seasons

According to your finances, the only cloth you're going to be dealing with will be your death shroud.

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