Summer 2024 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[johnc]

Snakebite made with ingredients commonly associated with an 'al fresco' lifestyle.

The sweetness of the white cider mellows the tenants super. I'm not sure how to describe it, but was genuinely far more pleasant than I'd imagined it might be. I'd have happily drunk it as my sole drink of choice except I felt l ike death warmed up the next morning. Maybe it was a coincidence, but it was probably a good thing to knock on the head early anyway

“The sweetness of the cider….”  We will have tasting notes for meths next!

[SoccerHQ]

I've said this before, but nobody would want Abraham if he hadn't done well for us in the Championship. He'll be too expensive and not good enough.

He scored 19 in his first season at Chelsea in prem and CL.

Also did alright the first half of the next season...12 goals up to the February but then Tuchel came in and froze him out.

Then in his first season at Roma it was 29 goals across the season.

His only really poor season was 22-23 with just the nine goals before getting injured.

"Not good enough." We're not in the market for Mbappe and Haaland types just yet.

That said we've seen before when Ings was here Ollie was feeling a bit restricted so I'd be surprised if Tammy was still a target.

We certainly need another top level striker in the squad next season although it won't be first priority with needing to sort out DM position first.

[SaddVillan]

Plenty of rumblings on t'interwebnet that Dougie wants out of B6 6HE.

If true, then off you go son - swap you for £60m+ crisp ones.

Adding fringe/peripheral players as well as Carlos/Duran and we could have £100m+ in the kitty from player sales alone.

Throw in £25-30m from general income and Monchi's got £125-£130m.

Get a couple of shrewd end of contract Bosmans  (a la Kamara/Tielemans) and you've got enough left over for 4 or 5 decent signings, not forgetting some loanees?

[pauliewalnuts]

I've said this before, but nobody would want Abraham if he hadn't done well for us in the Championship. He'll be too expensive and not good enough.

He scored 19 in his first season at Chelsea in prem and CL.

Also did alright the first half of the next season...12 goals up to the February but then Tuchel came in and froze him out.

Then in his first season at Roma it was 29 goals across the season.

His only really poor season was 22-23 with just the nine goals before getting injured.

"Not good enough." We're not in the market for Mbappe and Haaland types just yet.

That said we've seen before when Ings was here Ollie was feeling a bit restricted so I'd be surprised if Tammy was still a target.

We certainly need another top level striker in the squad next season although it won't be first priority with needing to sort out DM position first.

How about someone better than Tammy but not as good as Haaland?

[Sexual Ealing]

I've said this before, but nobody would want Abraham if he hadn't done well for us in the Championship. He'll be too expensive and not good enough.

He scored 19 in his first season at Chelsea in prem and CL.

Also did alright the first half of the next season...12 goals up to the February but then Tuchel came in and froze him out.

Then in his first season at Roma it was 29 goals across the season.

His only really poor season was 22-23 with just the nine goals before getting injured.

"Not good enough." We're not in the market for Mbappe and Haaland types just yet.

That said we've seen before when Ings was here Ollie was feeling a bit restricted so I'd be surprised if Tammy was still a target.

We certainly need another top level striker in the squad next season although it won't be first priority with needing to sort out DM position first.

I'm not saying he's no good, just that I don't think he'll work in this team, and that we wouldn't be so obsessed if he'd never been here.

The bold point though, we need to nip that in the bud. Watkins's nose being out of joint isn't a good enough reason to not plan the squad accordingly. If he doesn't want competition he should go elsewhere.

[VILLA MOLE]

It wouldn’t be a transfer thread if we didn’t have a chat about our Tammy 😃

The new Benni McCarthy.

except he did play for us 💪

[eamonn]

How strong are the Luiz-away links ?

[AV84]

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That said we've seen before when Ings was here Ollie was feeling a bit restricted so I'd be surprised if Tammy was still a target.

We certainly need another top level striker in the squad next season although it won't be first priority with needing to sort out DM position first.

This is the same conversation we were all having last summer when it comes to the striker situation. It boils down to what exactly Emery wants to do in regard to banking on Watkins long term, or trying to get an almost ready replacement in and then cash in on Watkins in a year or so to keep the accounts ticking over.

At the moment I think Duran is fine as someone who can come on towards the end of a game to give Ollie a rest, or in desperate situations throw him on too and see what happens, like the Liverpool game. If it was a case of Ollie picking up an injury and being out for a few weeks/months, I'm not sure Duran is the player you'd want to have to rely on.

Obviously the problem is deciding whether you invest in someone who might be brilliant in a year or two, or splash the cash on someone who is already brilliant, but they're unlikely to want to be backup, and it risks upsetting the balance within the squad.

This is where I think maybe someone like Tammy might work, simply because he's come off a poor season and not playing much. A few months bedding in here, getting minutes every week but with no real pressure, it could work for us both. A loan would probably be the best option. He puts himself in the shop window, we get a decent back up for Ollie, and Roma get to sell him on next summer.

[SoccerHQ]

I've said this before, but nobody would want Abraham if he hadn't done well for us in the Championship. He'll be too expensive and not good enough.

He scored 19 in his first season at Chelsea in prem and CL.

Also did alright the first half of the next season...12 goals up to the February but then Tuchel came in and froze him out.

Then in his first season at Roma it was 29 goals across the season.

His only really poor season was 22-23 with just the nine goals before getting injured.

"Not good enough." We're not in the market for Mbappe and Haaland types just yet.

That said we've seen before when Ings was here Ollie was feeling a bit restricted so I'd be surprised if Tammy was still a target.

We certainly need another top level striker in the squad next season although it won't be first priority with needing to sort out DM position first.

How about someone better than Tammy but not as good as Haaland?

Depends what the definition is. People see Tammy as limited but he scores 20-29 goals for likes of Roma and Chelsea who were finishing top 4-5 and reaching European finals in those seasons so going some to find better than that when we're on a restricted budget this summer.

We've seen with young Duran types there's a limit aswell as eventually they want to start games and don't really want to warm benches for 2-3 years. Duran done it for 18 months and understandably actually wants to have a run of starting next season and going to be near impossible here.

Someone like Borja who completely flopped at Fulham is not better than Tammy by a long way. Same for Calvert Lewin, those are two CFs who are available this summer. Calum Wilson aswell who's in his 30s now and frequently injured.

I think a decent target for us would be En-Nesyri from Sevilla. He's more a targetman type and had a really good second half of the season for them. Experienced in CL aswell and think he only has one year left on his deal.

Been linked to West Ham with Lopetegui turning up.

[Percy McCarthy]

Plenty of rumblings on t'interwebnet that Dougie wants out of B6 6HE.

If true, then off you go son - swap you for £60m+ crisp ones.

Adding fringe/peripheral players as well as Carlos/Duran and we could have £100m+ in the kitty from player sales alone.

Throw in £25-30m from general income and Monchi's got £125-£130m.

Get a couple of shrewd end of contract Bosmans  (a la Kamara/Tielemans) and you've got enough left over for 4 or 5 decent signings, not forgetting some loanees?

It’s not like household finances where if you get a £50 a week rise you’ve got another £50 a week to spend.

If we got £60m for one player like Dougie who’s transfer fee has been amortised, we’d be able to spend around £200m.

That could be what Emery actually wants to do, when considering how to make us competitive in the CL and at the top of the league.

[SoccerHQ]

I've said this before, but nobody would want Abraham if he hadn't done well for us in the Championship. He'll be too expensive and not good enough.

He scored 19 in his first season at Chelsea in prem and CL.

Also did alright the first half of the next season...12 goals up to the February but then Tuchel came in and froze him out.

Then in his first season at Roma it was 29 goals across the season.

His only really poor season was 22-23 with just the nine goals before getting injured.

"Not good enough." We're not in the market for Mbappe and Haaland types just yet.

That said we've seen before when Ings was here Ollie was feeling a bit restricted so I'd be surprised if Tammy was still a target.

We certainly need another top level striker in the squad next season although it won't be first priority with needing to sort out DM position first.

I'm not saying he's no good, just that I don't think he'll work in this team, and that we wouldn't be so obsessed if he'd never been here.

The bold point though, we need to nip that in the bud. Watkins's nose being out of joint isn't a good enough reason to not plan the squad accordingly. If he doesn't want competition he should go elsewhere.

Maybe Emery actually rates Tammy though? There were some rumours we were interested in him for summer 2023 but the ACL quickly ended that. Maybe he wanted him at Villareal when he was available in summer 2021?

We have played two upfront regularly this season with Diaby in a more withdrawn role in the first part of the season and then reactivated in the run in. There was also the disastrous attempt to play Bailey centrally v Spurs which thankfully wasn't repeated.

Given Ollie has improved all round so much and is now assist king maybe a plan B will be to have him slightly deeper. Tammy showed in his year here and elsewhere he can press fine so won't be losing too much in that regard.

We'll see who we target but we can't be going into a CL/prem campaign with just one serious CF if Duran wants out.

[Rigadon]

Plenty of rumblings on t'interwebnet that Dougie wants out of B6 6HE.

If true, then off you go son - swap you for £60m+ crisp ones.

Adding fringe/peripheral players as well as Carlos/Duran and we could have £100m+ in the kitty from player sales alone.

Throw in £25-30m from general income and Monchi's got £125-£130m.

Get a couple of shrewd end of contract Bosmans  (a la Kamara/Tielemans) and you've got enough left over for 4 or 5 decent signings, not forgetting some loanees?

It’s not like household finances where if you get a £50 a week rise you’ve got another £50 a week to spend.

If we got £60m for one player like Dougie who’s transfer fee has been amortised, we’d be able to spend around £200m.

If we were able to spend £200m we'd be able to buy players to have a go at something really, really special with Unai at the helm I reckon.  It'd be sad got see Liz go (esp to somewhere in England) but if he wants tp leave and we want to sell... I wouldn't be heartbroken as much as I like him.

Where are the links to him wanting out?  Is it football insider bollox or something more reputable?

[SaddVillan]

Plenty of rumblings on t'interwebnet that Dougie wants out of B6 6HE.

If true, then off you go son - swap you for £60m+ crisp ones.

Adding fringe/peripheral players as well as Carlos/Duran and we could have £100m+ in the kitty from player sales alone.

Throw in £25-30m from general income and Monchi's got £125-£130m.

Get a couple of shrewd end of contract Bosmans  (a la Kamara/Tielemans) and you've got enough left over for 4 or 5 decent signings, not forgetting some loanees?

It’s not like household finances where if you get a £50 a week rise you’ve got another £50 a week to spend.

If we got £60m for one player like Dougie who’s transfer fee has been amortised, we’d be able to spend around £200m.

If we were able to spend £200m we'd be able to buy players to have a go at something really, really special with Unai at the helm I reckon.  It'd be sad got see Liz go (esp to somewhere in England) but if he wants tp leave and we want to sell... I wouldn't be heartbroken as much as I like him.

Where are the links to him wanting out?  Is it football insider bollox or something more reputable?

Corriere dello Sport claiming that Juve want Dougie in a swap deal where we get Weston McKennie plus €7-8m.

Think if a "swap" deal along those lines was struck, we'd expect a bigger amount of cash to make the deal, or take their young Argentinian striker Matias Soule.

Transfermarkt (not the most accurate valuation site) values them at:
Dougie €70m
McKennie €25m
Soule €25m

So if Juve do want Dougie, then there's quite a bit of negotiating to be done.

[Percy McCarthy]

Plenty of rumblings on t'interwebnet that Dougie wants out of B6 6HE.

If true, then off you go son - swap you for £60m+ crisp ones.

Adding fringe/peripheral players as well as Carlos/Duran and we could have £100m+ in the kitty from player sales alone.

Throw in £25-30m from general income and Monchi's got £125-£130m.

Get a couple of shrewd end of contract Bosmans  (a la Kamara/Tielemans) and you've got enough left over for 4 or 5 decent signings, not forgetting some loanees?

It’s not like household finances where if you get a £50 a week rise you’ve got another £50 a week to spend.

If we got £60m for one player like Dougie who’s transfer fee has been amortised, we’d be able to spend around £200m.

If we were able to spend £200m we'd be able to buy players to have a go at something really, really special with Unai at the helm I reckon.  It'd be sad got see Liz go (esp to somewhere in England) but if he wants tp leave and we want to sell... I wouldn't be heartbroken as much as I like him.

Where are the links to him wanting out?  Is it football insider bollox or something more reputable?

I’ve no idea, not seen any reputable ones.

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The Italian sports media is the equivalent of Football Insider for their fantasy Juventus stuff. So in answer to Eamonn's question, not strong in the slightest. Nobody in Italy could afford the fee.