It’s pretty evident that it’s a defensive combination/team structure thing more than it being about Pau.
1st goal was crucial as so often . Once they got they were able to execute their game plan to perfection. That's why we had to keep it tight at the back and not make daft mistakes gifting them the goal.
Quote from: VillaTim on April 28, 2025, 10:25:29 AM1st goal was crucial as so often . Once they got they were able to execute their game plan to perfection. That's why we had to keep it tight at the back and not make daft mistakes gifting them the goal.There is nuance here though. Torres lost the ball quite badly, but there was still a lot for Palace to do to score. Could someone of cut the pass out Eze, could someone has closed Eze down quicker, could Martinez’s positioning have been better. Indicating the goal is largely down to one mistake by one player is incorrect as is the overall analysis of removing that player solves the issues.
Quote from: RamboandBruno on April 28, 2025, 11:00:52 AMQuote from: VillaTim on April 28, 2025, 10:25:29 AM1st goal was crucial as so often . Once they got they were able to execute their game plan to perfection. That's why we had to keep it tight at the back and not make daft mistakes gifting them the goal.There is nuance here though. Torres lost the ball quite badly, but there was still a lot for Palace to do to score. Could someone of cut the pass out Eze, could someone has closed Eze down quicker, could Martinez’s positioning have been better. Indicating the goal is largely down to one mistake by one player is incorrect as is the overall analysis of removing that player solves the issues.None of which is necessary if he doesn’t gift them the ball.It was chronic and he contributed fxxxx all after either.
Honestly, he makes errors, and he also has a lot of good qualities. What to do? Well, maybe don't play this wild 4-2-4, with one of the midfield 2 being effectively a 10 playing deep (Tielemans). It works sometimes, but in too many games we're not giving anybody in the team their best chance at shining except maybe Rogers. And we know what confidence is as well, as players who make mistakes will often go on to make more.During the summer we need to work something out. I'd favour having the option open to play Konsa as the right back who shuffles over to make a 3 in possession with both Mings AND Pau inside, with some combination of Onana, Kamara, maybe Barkley, maybe also a new signing (and Enzo? Bogarde?), just to make us less absurdly vulnerable on transition.
Quote from: Monty on April 28, 2025, 02:57:11 PMHonestly, he makes errors, and he also has a lot of good qualities. What to do? Well, maybe don't play this wild 4-2-4, with one of the midfield 2 being effectively a 10 playing deep (Tielemans). It works sometimes, but in too many games we're not giving anybody in the team their best chance at shining except maybe Rogers. And we know what confidence is as well, as players who make mistakes will often go on to make more.During the summer we need to work something out. I'd favour having the option open to play Konsa as the right back who shuffles over to make a 3 in possession with both Mings AND Pau inside, with some combination of Onana, Kamara, maybe Barkley, maybe also a new signing (and Enzo? Bogarde?), just to make us less absurdly vulnerable on transition. Martinez Konsa Mings TorresGarcia Maatsen Kamara Malen Tielemans Ramsey Watkins
By my calculations we have had four different back four combos to have started 6 or more games this season.Cash/Konsa/Torres/Digne is statistically the worst, averaging just over a point per game over 13 appearances. Conceding 1.8 per game and including three out of the four times we have conceded 3 or more in a game. Just two clean sheets. We only score a goal a game with this combo too.Konsa/Carlos/Torres/Digne was slightly better at 1.8 points per game and conceding 1.5 per game over 6 appearances. Bayern at home was the only clean sheet. We scored two goals per game with this combo thanks to Wolves (H) and Leipzig (A).Cash/Konsa/Mings/Digne averages 2.2 points per game over 6 appearances conceding 0.7 goals per game. Cash/Konsa/Mings/Maatsen is the same just with more goals scored per game so that is statistically the best although that is skewed by Bruges (H) v 10 men.Mings HAS to be first choice now in the final games. If Liverpool can give Van Dijk a new contract at 33 we can keep Tyrone for a while yet.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on April 28, 2025, 11:58:09 AMQuote from: RamboandBruno on April 28, 2025, 11:00:52 AMQuote from: VillaTim on April 28, 2025, 10:25:29 AM1st goal was crucial as so often . Once they got they were able to execute their game plan to perfection. That's why we had to keep it tight at the back and not make daft mistakes gifting them the goal.There is nuance here though. Torres lost the ball quite badly, but there was still a lot for Palace to do to score. Could someone of cut the pass out Eze, could someone has closed Eze down quicker, could Martinez’s positioning have been better. Indicating the goal is largely down to one mistake by one player is incorrect as is the overall analysis of removing that player solves the issues.None of which is necessary if he doesn’t gift them the ball.It was chronic and he contributed fxxxx all after either.Compared to who? I don’t remember anybody other than Bailey and McGinn for 10 mins in the first half contribute anything of note, why pick him out?