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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2535 on: June 08, 2023, 01:22:34 PM »
I am surprised at £35m, seems like there was a release clause. Ouch.

It's like the Delph one where he actually deserves some credit as he could've walked away for nothing this summer had he not signed it before the World Cup

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2536 on: June 08, 2023, 01:27:36 PM »
Tyler Adams is a very decent player and would thrive under Unai.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2537 on: June 08, 2023, 01:29:58 PM »
Not directly linked to current speculation, though I think our starting four in midfield - Kamara, Luiz, SJM, and Ramsey - are absolute quality.

Outside of Citeh, I don't know that there is a better midfield four in the PL - even accounting for my bias ;)

SJM is the oldest at 28 by several years, so they could be at the heart of our team for years.

And given some of the terrible deals the Villa have done over the years, it is remarkable that collectively they have cost c.£30m. UTV.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2538 on: June 08, 2023, 02:02:43 PM »
Tyler Adams is a very decent player and would thrive under Unai.

Having not previously played under Emery I doubt he's on our radar.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2539 on: June 08, 2023, 02:06:57 PM »
Not sure this is the place or if its commented on elsewhere but Liverpool signing MacAllister for £35 is a bargain. Quality player.

Interesting for what this means for Brighton's model though - if they are losing their top talents for the kind of money we paid for Buendia then I don't see how sustainable it is long term.  Liverpool could probably flip him tomorrow for double that fee.

They paid about £7m for him when he had just turned 20. I would say getting a good few years of decent service out of him and then making an almost £30m profit on him is EXACTLY how their model is supposed to work? There's another £20m on top if Liverpool win everything while he's there (unlikely, but they could win a few things during his contract).

Yes, they'll never be able to build a side capable of winning the league this way, but they'll certainly be able to be competitive in the top half of the Premier League if they keep finding players like him every couple of years.

EDIT: They'll probably lose Caicedo this summer too, for more than £35m.  But this year they've also had Mitoma, Enciso and Ferguson all emerge as strong first-team players, and very sellable assets for the next couple of years.  Brighton are good at what they do.  It's not a model that works for everyone (for example, we probably couldn't afford to give a player like Caicedo the 10-15 games he needed to find his feet at Premier League level - we need our bought in players delivering from their first appearance).  I still want us looking for uncut gems, obviously, but I see the majority of our signings being a bit more established, and a bit more of a known quality under Emery.
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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2540 on: June 08, 2023, 02:24:08 PM »
I am surprised at £35m, seems like there was a release clause. Ouch.

The release clause was said to be between £45m and £55m. When I read they got him for a value below the release clause I never imagined it would be £35m. Apparently there are £20m in add-ons. Plus he signed a new contract in October as his contract was to end this month so he basically did a Delph.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2541 on: June 08, 2023, 03:05:07 PM »
Supposedly we are looking to sign Rodrigo from Leeds

Not the marquee signing we were hoping for but a solid player and versatile too.

Not sure what it’d mean for Archer though as he’d surely be the first reserve rather than a starter (once we land some big guns).

Talk on Leeds forums that his relegation release clause is only £3m. We should be all over it at that price.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2542 on: June 08, 2023, 03:18:32 PM »
Supposedly we are looking to sign Rodrigo from Leeds

Not the marquee signing we were hoping for but a solid player and versatile too.

Not sure what it’d mean for Archer though as he’d surely be the first reserve rather than a starter (once we land some big guns).

Talk on Leeds forums that his relegation release clause is only £3m. We should be all over it at that price.

£3m is bugger all, but he is 32, so I wonder if he's looked at as a short-term option could can deliver today to let our more promising younger forwards develop a little more?

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2543 on: June 08, 2023, 03:27:17 PM »
Supposedly we are looking to sign Rodrigo from Leeds

Not the marquee signing we were hoping for but a solid player and versatile too.

Not sure what it’d mean for Archer though as he’d surely be the first reserve rather than a starter (once we land some big guns).

Talk on Leeds forums that his relegation release clause is only £3m. We should be all over it at that price.

£3m is bugger all, but he is 32, so I wonder if he's looked at as a short-term option could can deliver today to let our more promising younger forwards develop a little more?

A loan seems the best idea if that's who we really want and even then I'd want an option to send him back in January. I was hoping we'd be bringing in at least one top striker plus a winger to give us options and that's before we add Archer to the first team squad.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2544 on: June 08, 2023, 04:14:40 PM »
Not sure this is the place or if its commented on elsewhere but Liverpool signing MacAllister for £35 is a bargain. Quality player.

Interesting for what this means for Brighton's model though - if they are losing their top talents for the kind of money we paid for Buendia then I don't see how sustainable it is long term.  Liverpool could probably flip him tomorrow for double that fee.

They paid about £7m for him when he had just turned 20. I would say getting a good few years of decent service out of him and then making an almost £30m profit on him is EXACTLY how their model is supposed to work? There's another £20m on top if Liverpool win everything while he's there (unlikely, but they could win a few things during his contract).

Yes, they'll never be able to build a side capable of winning the league this way, but they'll certainly be able to be competitive in the top half of the Premier League if they keep finding players like him every couple of years.

EDIT: They'll probably lose Caicedo this summer too, for more than £35m.  But this year they've also had Mitoma, Enciso and Ferguson all emerge as strong first-team players, and very sellable assets for the next couple of years.  Brighton are good at what they do.  It's not a model that works for everyone (for example, we probably couldn't afford to give a player like Caicedo the 10-15 games he needed to find his feet at Premier League level - we need our bought in players delivering from their first appearance).  I still want us looking for uncut gems, obviously, but I see the majority of our signings being a bit more established, and a bit more of a known quality under Emery.

They’ll be relegated within 2-3 seasons. Especially as their scouts get poached.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2545 on: June 08, 2023, 04:20:27 PM »
What do you think of 23/24 Squad?

Goal Keepers

Martinez/ Raya

Defence
Foyth/Cash
Pau Torres/Konsa
I'm Eric laporte/Mings
Moreno/Digne


Midfield /Attack

Tielmans/Kamara
Guendouzi/Luiz
Lo Celso /Buendia
McGinn/Ward Prowse
Nico Williams/Bailey/Lee Kang Inn
Ramsey/Barnes/Alberto Moleiro
Pedro Goncalves /Coutinho/Summerville

Strikers
Santiago Giménez/Watkins/Archer/Marcus Thuram

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2546 on: June 08, 2023, 04:24:22 PM »
It looks very expensive, footy  :P

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2547 on: June 08, 2023, 04:25:29 PM »
Not sure why you omitted Ramsey either.

Ignore that, spotted him.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2548 on: June 08, 2023, 04:26:19 PM »
I always suspected Lo Celso was coming.
Gregg Evans has suggested as such. Someone who's more in than out the know.
"Unai Emery is keen on targeting Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Giovani Lo Celso for Aston Villa ahead of this upcoming summer transfer window"

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #2549 on: June 08, 2023, 04:29:06 PM »
Not sure why you omitted Ramsey either.

Ignore that, spotted him.
I did leave out Olsen, Chambers and Traore.
It looks very expensive, footy  :P

Yes maybe Villa won't sign 15 players but maybe could push at around golf that of 7 players.
I wouldn't think more than 7 even with Monchi coming in as a transfer wizard 6 to 7 in satisfaction and a squad of 30 could then include a few younger ones. And goalkeepers.

 


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