Quote from: The Edge on November 14, 2022, 07:00:32 PMQuote from: Risso on November 14, 2022, 06:40:40 PMFound it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:Spoiler for "Warning, contains scenes of extreme middle class twattishness": https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980Think they thought it would be funny. But Jesus wept that so cringeCome on guys, lighten up a bit.It’s harmless, lighthearted and quite funny, too
Quote from: Risso on November 14, 2022, 06:40:40 PMFound it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:Spoiler for "Warning, contains scenes of extreme middle class twattishness": https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980Think they thought it would be funny. But Jesus wept that so cringe
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:Spoiler for "Warning, contains scenes of extreme middle class twattishness": https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980
They are coming over all Norwich, few years in the top flight and think they're fucking Real Madrid.Apart from a few thousand (not counting the ones that have jumped on the premier league bandwagon and only go cos they cant get tickets at Old Trafford, Anfield etc..) no one gives a shit about Brighton.
Quote from: Rory on November 14, 2022, 01:06:02 AMQuote from: adrenachrome on November 14, 2022, 12:36:11 AMQuote from: Smithy on November 14, 2022, 12:23:10 AMOn the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review. Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.I can remember a time when an indirect free kick would be given. This would have been based on the fact that there was no intent to foul. I recall Bruce Rioch scoring from of these at the Holte. In terms of today's rules, it was likely a penalty.I know what you mean, but again it's a VAR issue. It is applied with such little consistency that nobody knows what they're actually looking for."There was contact..." Well yes, but that isn't automatically a penalty, something commentators and pundits often forget.I'm no referee, so anybody with more knowledge, of course feel free to correct me, but for me there are a few questions: Was the Brighton player in control of the ball? No.Was it intentional? No.Was it dangerous play? No.Was there a realistic way for Digne to avoid the contact? For me, no. He was in the middle of trying to clear the ball when the Brighton player threw himself in there, failed to win the ball and caught a piece of the movement that Digne had already biomechanically initiated and committed to.It was a coming-together (Kenneth Williams meme), nothing more.Biomechanically initiated!! Oooooohhh someone's swallowed a dictionary
Quote from: adrenachrome on November 14, 2022, 12:36:11 AMQuote from: Smithy on November 14, 2022, 12:23:10 AMOn the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review. Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.I can remember a time when an indirect free kick would be given. This would have been based on the fact that there was no intent to foul. I recall Bruce Rioch scoring from of these at the Holte. In terms of today's rules, it was likely a penalty.I know what you mean, but again it's a VAR issue. It is applied with such little consistency that nobody knows what they're actually looking for."There was contact..." Well yes, but that isn't automatically a penalty, something commentators and pundits often forget.I'm no referee, so anybody with more knowledge, of course feel free to correct me, but for me there are a few questions: Was the Brighton player in control of the ball? No.Was it intentional? No.Was it dangerous play? No.Was there a realistic way for Digne to avoid the contact? For me, no. He was in the middle of trying to clear the ball when the Brighton player threw himself in there, failed to win the ball and caught a piece of the movement that Digne had already biomechanically initiated and committed to.It was a coming-together (Kenneth Williams meme), nothing more.
Quote from: Smithy on November 14, 2022, 12:23:10 AMOn the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review. Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.I can remember a time when an indirect free kick would be given. This would have been based on the fact that there was no intent to foul. I recall Bruce Rioch scoring from of these at the Holte. In terms of today's rules, it was likely a penalty.
On the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review. Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.
I've usually a lot of time for Brighton. What happened with their owners, especially with the Goldstone ground, was disgraceful. It's a minor miracle the club survived. I'm not gonna knock a club pulling 2k when they were in division 4, playing 'home' games 70 miles away in Gillingham and the future of the club looked in doubt. Problem is, with the move to the new ground, and especially getting into the PL, they've got a raft of new fans turning up to games. And new fans are usually twats.
I've got no problem with Brighton, if it was the other way round we would probably be moaning. As one of only, perhaps, two teams in the league who might consider us a bogey side, they seem nice enough to me. Rubbish videos not withstanding.
He has detailed files on human anatomy. It makes him a more efficient Villa.
Some clown who's written the report in the Daily Mail (don't worry, I didn't buy it) reckons that McGinn shouldn't have been a pen."before falling over the sliding tackle of Dunk, he was already going over"