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Title: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 13, 2022, 04:00:58 PM
Shithousery to see out the game but fuck it. We found a way to win from a difficult start. Great way to enter the break.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on November 13, 2022, 04:01:39 PM
Phew…..
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Keeno on November 13, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
Winning when we're not playing *that* well, away from home, against a team that has won 3 on the bounce. Glorious.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on November 13, 2022, 04:02:11 PM
A great battling win. Fair play.

Surprised the ref didn’t book me in last 10 mins.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 13, 2022, 04:02:17 PM
We’re Aston Villa. We’ll win when we want
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 13, 2022, 04:02:18 PM
Never in doubt.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 13, 2022, 04:02:32 PM
Some beautiful battling there.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ger Regan on November 13, 2022, 04:03:15 PM
I might start the away match threads from now on....
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Taylor on November 13, 2022, 04:03:33 PM
Get in. Enjoy the World Cup everyone.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on November 13, 2022, 04:03:39 PM
That penalty incident with Digne got far more attention that it deserved.

If play hadn’t have been held up for the bloke to receive treatment, and thus give time for endless replays, it would barely have merited a mention once VAR had said no.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 13, 2022, 04:03:59 PM
Quality 3 points.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 13, 2022, 04:04:02 PM
Well done Villa. Big week with Man City losing. Right back in it now.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Scovilla on November 13, 2022, 04:04:09 PM
Thank you babies... great result.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on November 13, 2022, 04:04:11 PM
3 points off 6th. Back to back league victories.

Batting performance. Emery using tactics to safeguard the victory.

Not the prettiest performance but that’s a hard ground to get a result out.

All in all, chuffed - despite the team seeming to have a collective yellow card.

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rory on November 13, 2022, 04:04:15 PM
Good to sign off on a positive. Now we can all relax and not enjoy the World Cup 👍
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on November 13, 2022, 04:04:26 PM
Great win.  fight, desire, a will to win, every player not giving an inch.  Brilliant Villa.  onwards and upwards now as we can relax for a while.  bring in another couple of players and we'll be fine this season.  For all of Brighton's pressure second half, they had one shot on target.  Apart from the first 10 minutes, we defended really well.  coming from behind to win away shows a lot of character. 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 13, 2022, 04:04:48 PM
We’re Aston Villa. We’ll win when we want

We're Aston Villa, we shithouse when we want.

I enjoyed that, and a big well played to John McGinn, top ratting
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on November 13, 2022, 04:05:02 PM
Superb result and half decent display. Mings went from Nathan Baker after a night on the piss to prime Paulo Maldini. Quite a swing.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: villadelph on November 13, 2022, 04:05:28 PM
Great subs, tactical changes throughout the game worked to perfection and Danny Ings put in a great shift. I thought Digne played well also.

Glad to see us come back from 1-0 to a team that hardly ever drops three points from winning positions.

Oh, and the ref was gash. He ruined the flow of the game and had no consistency in his cautions.

Three points - we’re flying up the table!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on November 13, 2022, 04:05:38 PM
Good result and a mini pre-season to sort out what still needs sorting out.  Looking positive for the second half of the season.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 13, 2022, 04:05:52 PM
Delighted.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on November 13, 2022, 04:06:02 PM
Thank fuck for that. Thank fuck that Unai knows more about team selections than I do, also.

Humble pie tasting very nice.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 13, 2022, 04:06:09 PM
Excellent lads. Very happy.  We are beginning to believe in ourselves and that is very important.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 13, 2022, 04:06:16 PM
Fucking buzzing with that result.

In its way, it was as brilliant as the win over the Manc tramps. Finally we grind out an away win, and come back after going behind too.

Loving having a proper manager.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SaddVillan on November 13, 2022, 04:06:48 PM
Foul count 14 -11
Bookings 2 - 7

Explain that.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on November 13, 2022, 04:07:14 PM
Great win, we had to work for it but sometimes you have to.

That ref was a tad card happy, he was shite. 10 bookings, 9 players and their manager.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on November 13, 2022, 04:08:22 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Holy Trinity on November 13, 2022, 04:08:28 PM
Didn't expect that win especially after the first minute but what an amazingly professional performance with players having clear defined instruction and carrying them out to perfection.

I almost started a thread when he signed up saying 15 more wins can we do it. Now it should be 14 win, do you doubt us!

The mighty Villa roar again
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Nelly on November 13, 2022, 04:08:40 PM
Our first away win of the season? They only started passing it and having possession when we dropped back and let them. Ballsy considering our many previous collapses, but about time we changed the culture at the club.

We've just beaten two of the top 8. Come on Villa!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 04:08:48 PM
Just brilliant. This win ticks loads of boxes. Away win, Turned the game around, CF scores 2, Back to back wins, keeping  a clean sheet after the gift etc etc. What a pleasant afternoon ;D
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 13, 2022, 04:09:37 PM
Would I like us to play from first whistle to last like the team of '77 reincarnate? Yes.

Am I happy to see us grind out 3 points away from home with a performance that ’17/18 Preston would've been proud of? Also yes.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on November 13, 2022, 04:10:09 PM
Love it.
2 wins and the team showed great character to recover today.
Happy days and we're now looking upwards for the first time in ages.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 13, 2022, 04:10:22 PM
great win.
Scrappy and we battled hard, got lucky with the deflection, and they should have had a penalty - but the hard work and defensive performance was good.
The players look like a group - all in. Good to see.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ger Regan on November 13, 2022, 04:10:29 PM
I really feared for us when i saw the lineup, but fair's fair, the players i was most worried about performed well. Great way to sign off on a high, now let the work begin.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on November 13, 2022, 04:10:39 PM
Good evening everyone. Except Jamie Carragher, the flem spewing gobshite.

First half - shite
Second half - much better battling performance
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: villadelph on November 13, 2022, 04:11:09 PM
Hey, where’s @Flin5tone?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 13, 2022, 04:11:45 PM
I might start the away match threads from now on....

Well clearly better than the previous fools who started one.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 13, 2022, 04:12:39 PM
Great result, decent performance.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: gpbarr on November 13, 2022, 04:12:53 PM
Get in! Lots to like about that - cannot remember the last time we came from behind to win. Great tactics, they were bang in form too - we are on the rise!!!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 04:13:48 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know
Never a penalty. There was no intent to foul, Brighton player ran into Lucas, the clumsy donkey.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 13, 2022, 04:14:35 PM
Been a long time since we came from behind to win away from home. Thought we were fortunate, mind, and stopped trying to play after the tactical change to bring Young on and switch to a 5. Likes of Konsa, Mings, Kamara and Luiz were much improved in the second half. McGinn put in a fair old shift too.

Martinez 6, Cash 6, Konsa 7, Mings 6, Digne 6, Kamara 7, Luiz 7, Buendia 7, Ramsey 6, McGinn 7, Ings 7.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 04:14:43 PM
Anyone still interested in moving Danny Ings on?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 13, 2022, 04:14:59 PM
Big win that puts us nicely mid table. Probably need to be a little less obvious with the time wasting, but there was some really good play interspersed with it.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 13, 2022, 04:15:03 PM
Anyone still interested in moving Danny Ings on?
depends on who we get in, and what price we get for him.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 13, 2022, 04:15:29 PM
It was never a foul on Luiz for their goal, and it wasn't a penalty for them with the Digne VAR review. It's perfectly possible to take a rational view of separate incidents.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: villadelph on November 13, 2022, 04:15:36 PM
9 points from Brentford, Toon, Manure and Brighton.. good riddance.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 13, 2022, 04:16:07 PM
We rode our luck. We didn’t play with the ball and a better side would have capitalized on the opportunities. But this is very much a work in progress. We are going to make mistakes trying to play it out but doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to play it that way. We need better technical players and those who understand their position off the ball so we close down faster. But the effort was there. The determination and collectiveness is revealing itself. And the shithousery which all great sides have is there.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on November 13, 2022, 04:16:13 PM
Foul count 14 -11
Bookings 2 - 7

Explain that.

That sir, is a very good point!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 13, 2022, 04:16:42 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know
I would have been screaming for it up the other end if one of ours was kicked
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on November 13, 2022, 04:17:05 PM
Anyone still interested in moving Danny Ings on?

Nope. Eat my own words today. Glad to be wrong.

And it also shows we can play different systems , pack the midfield more away, with just one up top.

I though he was excellent.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 04:18:45 PM
9 points from Brentford, Toon, Manure and Brighton.. good riddance.
Two and a quarter per game. Marvellous. Keep it up Unai.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on November 13, 2022, 04:18:57 PM
It was never a penalty, March was steaming in to Digne as he was attempting to clear the ball and Digne wasn't even looking at the player.

Even if it's analysed to death and 99% consensus is penalty  - HA!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 13, 2022, 04:18:57 PM
Get the fuck in the Villa lads

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1591825603912937472?s=46&t=6Cv8TS4_CyseXn9CJE7pBw
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 13, 2022, 04:19:05 PM
Before Unai was appointed I had Man United and Brighton both down for losses, what a difference he has made in only 2 league games.

UP THE VILLA
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 13, 2022, 04:19:56 PM
I expect we'll get a fine for all those yellow cards, "failing to control our players" or some such bollocks.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ez on November 13, 2022, 04:20:32 PM
Never a penalty. He missed the ball but didn't get the player. The player then ran into him.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SaddVillan on November 13, 2022, 04:20:43 PM
Foul count 14 -11
Bookings 2 - 7

Explain that.

That sir, is a very good point!

More bookings than shots on target and corners combined. But who cares?

The only numbers that count are balls in the onion bag.

1-2 to us.

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on November 13, 2022, 04:21:58 PM
The shithousery from Emi at the end was the kind of thing that has frustrated me in forever from opposition teams
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 04:22:35 PM
Get the fuck in the Villa lads

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1591825603912937472?s=46&t=6Cv8TS4_CyseXn9CJE7pBw
I like Digne's bra.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Aldridge Villa on November 13, 2022, 04:23:44 PM
Well chuffed. Scrappy, tenacious and dare I say it even street wise at times. Well played Villa.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 13, 2022, 04:24:01 PM
A masterclass in game management.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: supertom on November 13, 2022, 04:24:33 PM
Excellent performance. Brighton don't give much away on their turf and overall we looked good value for the win. The best part was the response from going a goal down. We quickly dug in and got ourselves in the game, where Gerrard probably would have overseen a capitulation. We also had an idea on how to get at them and make some chances. It wasn't the prettiest but considering our away form, their home form and a 6 point game prior, this is a great result.

Ings MOTM, closely followed by Kamara.
If you look at Ings' villa career so far, he hasn't started too many of his matches. When he does he tends to look like scoring. Whether we can find an ongoing way of playing him and Ollie (which has only intermittently worked), that will be good, but otherwise, it's probably still Ollie as the first choice for his running and relentless energy. It's just Ings for the most part looks more like netting. He just doesn't seem like an impact kind of player and suits coming in at the beginning rather than last 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Baldy on November 13, 2022, 04:25:32 PM
We have a proper manager, a proper game plan, a proper shape and a proper scoreline.

Fantastic

P.S. Well played John McGinn. Gave him a lot of stick recently but he proved me wrong today.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 13, 2022, 04:25:43 PM
Apparently we are dreadful to watch, time wasting, too many players back. This from a Brighton fan. Called sour grapes.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 04:26:21 PM
Boss on TV now.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Skerra on November 13, 2022, 04:26:43 PM
Had us down for wins against both Manure and Brighton but, wasn’t so confident today after seeing the lineup. However, I think Ings had one of his best games for us and lots of other players also put in a shift. Liverpool is now a must win for our relentless push into the European places!!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 13, 2022, 04:26:47 PM

P.S. Well played John McGinn. Gave him a lot of stick recently but he proved me wrong today.

Eh? He was forever giving the ball away, miles more than anybody else in the team.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ez on November 13, 2022, 04:27:13 PM
A masterclass in game management.

Definately. It shows up how limited Gerrard was.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on November 13, 2022, 04:29:21 PM
That’s some timepiece the boss is wearing! UTFV
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 13, 2022, 04:29:40 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know

Never a penalty. There was no intent to foul, Brighton player ran into Lucas, the clumsy donkey.

I don't like those sort of penalties but, based on what's been given against us in the past, I'd expect it to be a penalty if a Villa player that was on the receiving end of that tackle. Been on 3 or 4 other clubs' forums and pretty much everyone thinks it was a penalty and that VAR got its wrong, with the word stonewall being used a lot.

Cracking result though and the table looks a lot better than it did 8 days ago.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 13, 2022, 04:30:45 PM
That’s some timepiece the boss is wearing! UTFV

*Paging Risso*
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Baldy on November 13, 2022, 04:31:01 PM

P.S. Well played John McGinn. Gave him a lot of stick recently but he proved me wrong today.

Eh? He was forever giving the ball away, miles more than anybody else in the team.

True, but he excelled in other areas of his game that have been below par in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 13, 2022, 04:31:19 PM
Europe here we come .



Great result  against a team who have just spanked Chelsea and arsenal. Digne had a good game and Ings .


Considering Watkins and bailey was ill , very happy and we need a new CB .

Enjoy your Sunday


Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 13, 2022, 04:34:00 PM
A cracking hard fought win!
Brilliant from Emery! Defensively we were fantastic (except for the 1st minute). Mings motm and ingerlund has no space for him haha!
We restricted them to just 2 goal attempts from 7 chances.
Brighton think they’re already cl haha and dunk thinks he’s some kind of hard man!
Fack off small time club!
Ref awful throughout...he should be embarrassed by the number of Villa bookings compared to Brighton’s.
Digne a lucky boy with that pen shout, then again it was only Brighton.
Brilliant from Emery btw! UTV!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 13, 2022, 04:38:43 PM
Great result, decent performance.


For now, I think that's all we can expect. I can get used to this winning malarkey.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: passport1 on November 13, 2022, 04:38:54 PM
I think that was the very  definition of 'winning ugly'.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on November 13, 2022, 04:41:58 PM
Better result than last Sunday for me, that.  Especially after going one down so early, under Gerrard we'd just have collapsed like a cheap tent and they'd have got 3 or 4.  Shame about the bloody WC just as we're hitting form but what can you do.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Nev on November 13, 2022, 04:42:46 PM
All Hail Dr Unai Emery Shithouse the Third!

I'd rather try and win the game 3 or 4 -1 but realistically, pragmatism will always win the day and given where we are grinding a result is absolutely the way to go.

Can't wait for the next game now! Oh......
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 13, 2022, 04:43:57 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know
I would have been screaming for it up the other end if one of ours was kicked

I thought it was a pen via replays, but it happened too fast for a ref to be sure enough to give it in real time. I was therefore positive it wouldn’t be overturned.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 13, 2022, 04:44:51 PM
Shithousery to see out the game but fuck it. We found a way to win from a difficult start. Great way to enter the break.
we do it and it's terrible, the like of Leicester do it and not a word,so Jamie Carragher go and  off
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ger Regan on November 13, 2022, 04:46:56 PM
I've just noticed that we've gained exactly half of our total points this season from the last 4 games. That's some indictment of the last fella.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: jimmygreen on November 13, 2022, 04:47:19 PM
Ace.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 13, 2022, 04:48:21 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know
I would have been screaming for it up the other end if one of ours was kicked

I thought it was a pen via replays, but it happened too fast for a ref to be sure enough to give it in real time. I was therefore positive it wouldn’t be overturned.
my thoughts first time in the replays but the Brighton player also makes contact as well and was it decided it's fifty fifty
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: john2710 on November 13, 2022, 04:49:00 PM
A cracking result, after a shocking start. I felt we were comfortable throughout & Brighton offered very little. Once we went ahead we closed the game out. I'll take a shithouse win over a plucky defeat anytime.

Emery shut down the threats by making the right subs at the right time.

Special mention to Kamara, who I thought was excellent.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 13, 2022, 04:49:41 PM
When did we last come from behind (ooh!) to win an away game?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Gareth on November 13, 2022, 04:54:00 PM
3 games, 3 game plans, 2 executed perfectly, 1 not so good….would have taken 100% that after Newcastle.

When you execute the game plan to the tee it’s a class performance….not pretty on the eye but ruthlessly effective….well done!

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 13, 2022, 04:54:27 PM
A dirty ugly dogs of war type win….loved it!!

Ive posted that i think McGinns time is probably up, but he battled well today and i dont think he gave the ball away anymore than say Kamara. I thought Kamara was a rolls royce for 60 mins, but then tired and got sloppy, i would of taken him iff instead of Dougie, who i thought mistake for the first goal aside, played well.  But Emery knows what he’s doing so hey!

I think the fact Digne didnt know the Brighton player was there probably helped with the penalty shout as there was clearly not intent to kick the player.

Carragher was so biased in the commentary throughout, we sacked your mate, get over it twat.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on November 13, 2022, 04:54:41 PM
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12746694/brighton-1-2-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: London Villan on November 13, 2022, 04:54:52 PM
You could argue the challenge was reckless by the brighton player for the non-penalty too.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: trinityoap on November 13, 2022, 04:55:17 PM
I hope today means we are going to stop being nice.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on November 13, 2022, 04:55:51 PM
Early days but is Emery the new Sir Ron
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villan82 on November 13, 2022, 04:56:36 PM
I love this manager. He is the one.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 13, 2022, 04:57:27 PM
And also this is no shit Brighton side, they’ve beaten man u away, drawn with Liverpool away, battered Chelsea at home etc etc. this is a very very good result.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on November 13, 2022, 04:59:10 PM
When did we last come from behind (ooh!) to win an away game?

Rotherham?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 13, 2022, 05:00:01 PM
When did we last come from behind (ooh!) to win an away game?

Bolton in the LC.

In the league it was Spurs, May 2021.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: KevinGage on November 13, 2022, 05:00:12 PM
Sat far too deep second half.

Brighton have showed a bit of cutting edge to go with their nice approach play this season. But that looked like old Brighton.

Our defenders grew into the game after a sloppy start and 1-11 we possessed a resilience not usually associated with us. Will take it as a base to build from.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 13, 2022, 05:01:59 PM
This was an excellent result.  I always felt we were the better side. When they pressed it was a lot of huff and puff but our mobility and invention was far more incisive.  We have the quality and it's looking positive.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: TonyD on November 13, 2022, 05:02:45 PM
Only saw the second half.

Great defending and game management.

Been lacking that steel for about 20 years. 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 13, 2022, 05:03:00 PM
Starting to feeling like we have a manager that knows what he’s doing
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on November 13, 2022, 05:03:52 PM
I think we're beginning to see a bit of belief in our players. Well done everyone and long may it continue.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 13, 2022, 05:05:44 PM
It felt like we were hanging on but we weren’t. Great battling display. For once in a very long time we looked like we’ve been coached. More of the same please Unai.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: levico on November 13, 2022, 05:06:22 PM
Didn’t get the Digne penalty shout by Sky. He wasn’t even looking at the man when he swung his leg to clear. No doubt that’s what VAR saw as well.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on November 13, 2022, 05:10:01 PM
You could argue the challenge was reckless by the brighton player for the non-penalty too.

Yep. Digne was trying to kick the ball. The Brighton bloke went in foot up.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 13, 2022, 05:10:29 PM
The difference is that under Gerrard, being in the situation we were in the later stages of that game, protecting a lead away from home, we'd have been reliant entirely on the players putting bodies on the line to see the game out.

Under Emery, it feels like we've got so much more than that from the bench, intelligent game management and not just crossing our fingers and hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 13, 2022, 05:14:56 PM
Brighton is- pleasing on the eye without a lot of penetration.  Hopefully over time our possesion will improve and can control a game better.  Saying that a dogged organised performance today 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 05:18:03 PM
You could argue the challenge was reckless by the brighton player for the non-penalty too.
Exactly. I am surprised that people are looking at it as a foul by Digne. Lucas only had one intent to play the ball out and as he went to do that March was nowhere near him. March than clashed into him almost two footed. A yellow card minimum was in order for him.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on November 13, 2022, 05:19:41 PM
"Stonewall penalty" cry all the experts.

Shame.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 05:21:31 PM
De Zerbi said Brighton should have had a penalty and Villa's penalty was not a penalty. A balanced view there. I hope he's got an appointment at Specsaver early next week.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 13, 2022, 05:26:55 PM
De Zerbi said Brighton should have had a penalty and Villa's penalty was not a penalty. A balanced view there. I hope he's got an appointment at Specsaver early next week.
the Muppet on WM said the ball was going away from Mcginn anyway,I thought it's a foul so it's a penalty,
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on November 13, 2022, 05:27:39 PM
De Zerbi said Brighton should have had a penalty and Villa's penalty was not a penalty. A balanced view there. I hope he's got an appointment at Specsaver early next week.

Who gives a fuck what he says...1-2...
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 13, 2022, 05:31:58 PM
De Zerbi said Brighton should have had a penalty and Villa's penalty was not a penalty. A balanced view there. I hope he's got an appointment at Specsaver early next week.
the Muppet on WM said the ball was going away from Mcginn anyway,I thought it's a foul so it's a penalty,
Who? Wilford? The blue-nose smarmy get
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 13, 2022, 05:33:12 PM
The boss

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1591843619132301312?s=46&t=6Cv8TS4_CyseXn9CJE7pBw
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Allan C on November 13, 2022, 05:35:59 PM
That was great, a really good performance apart from the first minute. Lots of good stuff to take forward. Thought Kamara was excellent along with Luiz and yes McGinn too. Loved the shithousery too, maybe a little less. Early days but we’re going in the right direction. Let’s give the manager time to build on this good start.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on November 13, 2022, 05:36:44 PM
De Zerbi said Brighton should have had a penalty and Villa's penalty was not a penalty. A balanced view there. I hope he's got an appointment at Specsaver early next week.
the Muppet on WM said the ball was going away from Mcginn anyway,I thought it's a foul so it's a penalty,

what some people don't realise, the WM reporter obviously one of them, is that the ball doesn't have to be in the penalty area for a penalty to be awarded, just the players.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 13, 2022, 05:42:58 PM
You could argue the challenge was reckless by the brighton player for the non-penalty too.
Exactly. I am surprised that people are looking at it as a foul by Digne. Lucas only had one intent to play the ball out and as he went to do that March was nowhere near him. March than clashed into him almost two footed. A yellow card minimum was in order for him.

The problem I find is that they only show the point of contact of an incident and they then slow it down and show freeze frames of them.  Especially with handballs, it takes away how the incident actually occurred and makes things look a lot worse. 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Drummond on November 13, 2022, 05:44:00 PM
9 points from Brentford, Toon, Manure and Brighton.. good riddance.
Two and a quarter per game. Marvellous. Keep it up Unai.

As he's only been in charge for two games, he has 3ppg.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: puppyfeat on November 13, 2022, 05:44:47 PM
A come from behind win (when do we ever do that?!) against a form team, away, with a team that didn’t look obviously promising, with a greater sense of togetherness and discipline, and a derided striker scoring twice. Gotta luv that.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Mister E on November 13, 2022, 05:45:22 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know
Never a penalty. There was no intent to foul, Brighton player ran into Lucas, the clumsy donkey.
I don't like those sort of penalties but, based on what's been given against us in the past, I'd expect it to be a penalty if a Villa player that was on the receiving end of that tackle. Been on 3 or 4 other clubs' forums and pretty much everyone thinks it was a penalty and that VAR got its wrong, with the word stonewall being used a lot.
Cracking result though and the table looks a lot better than it did 8 days ago.
Solly March won a vey dodgy penalty at VP 2-3 years' ago (Trezeguet was the defender) so I see this one as one of those balancing-out situations.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ian. on November 13, 2022, 05:46:26 PM
You could argue the challenge was reckless by the brighton player for the non-penalty too.
Exactly. I am surprised that people are looking at it as a foul by Digne. Lucas only had one intent to play the ball out and as he went to do that March was nowhere near him. March than clashed into him almost two footed. A yellow card minimum was in order for him.

The problem I find is that they only show the point of contact of an incident and they then slow it down and show freeze frames of them.  Especially with handballs, it takes away how the incident actually occurred and makes things look a lot worse. 

My first reaction was it was a foul on Digne.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on November 13, 2022, 05:53:03 PM

P.S. Well played John McGinn. Gave him a lot of stick recently but he proved me wrong today.

Eh? He was forever giving the ball away, miles more than anybody else in the team.

McGinn was excellent, winning the ball all over time pitch, as did Buendia. They were all pretty good,  though Mings was his usual Curate’s Egg. I’m also stunned by how good Ashley Young has been recently .
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: BC Villain on November 13, 2022, 05:53:08 PM
I hope today means we are going to stop being nice.

Me too.  Sick of watching Villa sides roll over and have their belly's tickled
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 13, 2022, 05:56:26 PM
When did we last come from behind (ooh!) to win an away game?

Bolton in the LC.

In the league it was Spurs, May 2021.
That's better than I thought tbf.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ian. on November 13, 2022, 06:01:37 PM
Watching the highlights that pass to Dougie from Martinez wasn’t the best. If anything it was Martinez at fault.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 13, 2022, 06:05:55 PM
Watching the highlights that pass to Dougie from Martinez wasn’t the best. If anything it was Martinez at fault.
. I agree. It was soft and a put us in trouble
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 13, 2022, 06:06:16 PM
We cheats is all I'm hearing off Brighton fans. Fuck off.....
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: London Villan on November 13, 2022, 06:10:35 PM
I want other teams fans to hate us. Sick of having our bellies tickled.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rougegorge on November 13, 2022, 06:12:55 PM
Even Lil’ Lee thinks it was a Pen against Digne, so what do I know
Never a penalty. There was no intent to foul, Brighton player ran into Lucas, the clumsy donkey.
I don't like those sort of penalties but, based on what's been given against us in the past, I'd expect it to be a penalty if a Villa player that was on the receiving end of that tackle. Been on 3 or 4 other clubs' forums and pretty much everyone thinks it was a penalty and that VAR got its wrong, with the word stonewall being used a lot.
Cracking result though and the table looks a lot better than it did 8 days ago.
Solly March won a vey dodgy penalty at VP 2-3 years' ago (Trezeguet was the defender) so I see this one as one of those balancing-out situations.
Yes good reference! If the penalty had been given, I'm sure it wouldn't have been overturned, but very relieved it wasn't given.

We defended very well after we took the lead and only let them have one real chance from the header. It was good to see players under fire doing better. McGinn seemed to be in his element in that scenario and I thought Ings did well too.

We did well to pick up 7 yellow cards for just 11 fouls, although 2 were for time wasting. I'm amazed Martínez had only picked up 2 all season!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 13, 2022, 06:13:24 PM
We have a manager who knows what he’s doing

Fuck
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on November 13, 2022, 06:18:12 PM
How's Footy going to cope with all those bookings?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 13, 2022, 06:21:45 PM
Much better performance from Mcginn and generally all around, not pretty but I take it
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 13, 2022, 06:23:02 PM
4 points back of Liverpool in 6th who we play next at Villa Park after the break.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Neil Hawkes on November 13, 2022, 06:23:23 PM
The longer the game went on, the longer the team mentality was growing towards not conceding, everyone put a shift in to ensure there would not be another goal against us.

The group hug the defenders and Big Emi had at the end of the game was what we have been missing for ages.

I'm really looking forward to the restart, after Unai has had an extended spell coaching this team we should be in for an exciting second half of the season.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 13, 2022, 06:35:12 PM
How good is a Sunday evening after a win?

:)
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ian. on November 13, 2022, 06:35:21 PM
Get the fuck in the Villa lads

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1591825603912937472?s=46&t=6Cv8TS4_CyseXn9CJE7pBw

That’s ace. Get in Villa
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on November 13, 2022, 06:38:18 PM
Amazing what a decent manager with tactical nous can achieve. So glad to get an away win at last. Brighton is always a great away day.UTV
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 13, 2022, 06:38:43 PM
How's Footy going to cope with all those bookings?

Better than Wilma hubby now we won
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 13, 2022, 06:39:49 PM
The boss

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1591843619132301312?s=46&t=6Cv8TS4_CyseXn9CJE7pBw

The reference to Danny Ings coming into the side. Changing the shape to play to his strengths….what is the tactical witchcraft!!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: paul_e on November 13, 2022, 06:50:04 PM
I've just noticed that we've gained exactly half of our total points this season from the last 4 games. That's some indictment of the last fella.

and more than half of our goals.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: DB on November 13, 2022, 06:57:49 PM
I saw a Carlisle Villa flag today in the away. Fair play if they came all that way to Brighton!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 13, 2022, 06:59:40 PM
I don't like those sort of penalties but, based on what's been given against us in the past, I'd expect it to be a penalty if a Villa player that was on the receiving end of that tackle. Been on 3 or 4 other clubs' forums and pretty much everyone thinks it was a penalty and that VAR got its wrong, with the word stonewall being used a lot.
Cracking result though and the table looks a lot better than it did 8 days ago.

Solly March won a vey dodgy penalty at VP 2-3 years' ago (Trezeguet was the defender) so I see this one as one of those balancing-out situations.

Not complaining, we were long overdue a decision and the rub of the green.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: charlatan on November 13, 2022, 07:02:03 PM
Foul count 14 -11
Bookings 2 - 7

Explain that.
Quality over quantity.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 13, 2022, 07:02:43 PM
Anyone who thinks the Digne March challenge was a penalty needs to go and support their local netball team.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on November 13, 2022, 07:06:17 PM
Not even close to being a penalty.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on November 13, 2022, 07:10:18 PM
It's great to have bounced back after that demoralising defeat in the week.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 13, 2022, 07:10:55 PM
Anyone who thinks the Digne March challenge was a penalty needs to go and support their local netball team.
same as the Luiz foul inside a minute
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 13, 2022, 07:14:14 PM
Who was doing the VAR
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on November 13, 2022, 07:16:20 PM
Jarred Gillett and James Mainwaring.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bad English on November 13, 2022, 07:30:49 PM
Fatboy Slim, Rag 'n' Bone Man, Graham Greene, Cate Blanchett, Nick Cave, Quadrophenia Alley, The Prince Regent! We are the Mods, we are the Mods, we are, we are, we are the Mods!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 13, 2022, 07:38:49 PM
That was such an important game for us, to go into the break with a win was massive. Anything less would have be deflating. 12th in the league, 3 points off 6th place, we're now looking up the table rather than what's going on below. It may not have been the greatest game but the team spirit is there, pretty much the whole squad can feel involved and in Uncle Unai we finally have a coach and staff who can bring us into the 21st century.

I'd rather watch Villa in training over the next 5 or 6 weeks than the World Cup. Really exciting to see what he can do with this squad as he gets to spend more time with them.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on November 13, 2022, 07:42:48 PM
My take:

Martinez 6 dreadful error, followed by more awful distribution, followed by 4 or 5 world class long balls. He sorted his head out.

Cash 6 Solid

Digne 7 never a pen. And if so, only post-modern weird rules

Mings 7 (first half 4 second half 10) such a strange player - Villa were trying to play it around at the back in the 1st half and not really having the Guardiolaesque personnel to do it well. Mings looked about as comfortable as The Ayatollah Khomeini or Ron de Santis in a brothel - but backs to the wall second half, the guy was first to EVERYTHING thrown in that box! He is who he is and love him for it.

Konsa 7 See above, to an extent

Kamara 7.5 Brilliant work for the goal and great for 75 mins, then understandably tired.

Doug 7 Solid, no blame for me for the first goal, on Emi.

McGinn 6 Poor in 1st half I thought but worked his socks off and his arse shielding in the last 10 helped us see off the game.

Buendia 6 Not at his best, wasteful at times, but the assist …

Ings 8.5 Best game in a Villa shirt. The pen wasn’t the best and the goal was deflected but just thought he was superb throughout, holding the ball up so well and so many clever little passes.

Ramsey 6 A bit below par but no-one gets below 6

Subs

Young 8 A street wise performance

Bailey 7.5 Also street wise!

The others, 6

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 13, 2022, 07:44:36 PM
Brighton is- pleasing on the eye without a lot of penetration.

Never been, probably won't bother now though.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 13, 2022, 07:47:38 PM
Fatboy Slim, Rag 'n' Bone Man, Graham Greene, Cate Blanchett, Nick Cave, Quadrophenia Alley, The Prince Regent! We are the Mods, we are the Mods, we are, we are, we are the Mods!

Chris Eubank! Chris Eubank! We stuck it up your chuff real good, Chris Eubank!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 13, 2022, 07:47:55 PM
Brighton is- pleasing on the eye without a lot of penetration.

Never been, probably won't bother now though.

We went for a couple of days this summer, I really liked it.

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bad English on November 13, 2022, 07:49:57 PM
I've been to Brighton a few times with French kids on school trips. Very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on November 13, 2022, 07:52:32 PM
The seagulls are fucking huge.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 13, 2022, 07:54:30 PM
The seagulls are fucking huge.

Gulltras.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 07:56:25 PM
Brighton is- pleasing on the eye without a lot of penetration.
Never been, probably won't bother now though.
I understand why you would not be interested BV ;)
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on November 13, 2022, 07:59:21 PM
The seagulls are fucking huge.

Gulltras.

Very good.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: andyh on November 13, 2022, 08:02:15 PM
Finally, we have a manger who matches the status and size of the club.
He’s the real deal and I’m thankful we have him.

I love the fact that in every single interview I seen with him so far, the first thing he does is acknowledge the fans.

He is class. Strap in, we are going places.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: darren woolley on November 13, 2022, 08:02:54 PM
Brilliant win and brilliant day out even my train was on time.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on November 13, 2022, 08:10:44 PM
Brighton supporter on 606 saying we were a disgrace, well tough you did years ago when you were shit, we ain't rolling over anymore
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Stu on November 13, 2022, 08:11:44 PM
Great win! Context is everything: away win against a side with three wins on the bounce and out-thought and shithoused them. Not pretty but given our level of organisation, especially in the 8 mins added on, Brighton never looked like scoring. Nice to see some gamesmanship from us; a team whom other sides expect to roll over. Fuck being nice and likeable.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on November 13, 2022, 08:14:32 PM
Do we care what the biased BBC WM thinks? No

We can only that Wilford and Hale lose their jobs in the shake up as they are both totally clueless
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on November 13, 2022, 08:15:26 PM
Brighton supporter on 606 saying we were a disgrace
Excellent. I'm sick to death of the patronising pats on the back we get after being beaten again.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 13, 2022, 08:23:31 PM
I like the fact that we're actually a bit of a bogey team for them.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 13, 2022, 08:25:11 PM
If we could just play Brighton and Everton we would win the league.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on November 13, 2022, 08:29:46 PM
The seagulls are fucking huge.

There’s no such thing as a seagull, just gulls that live by the sea
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 13, 2022, 08:42:02 PM
The seagulls are fucking huge.

There’s no such thing as a seagull, just gulls that live by the sea

and eat fish.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 08:44:32 PM
Fish and Chips based on personal experience!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 13, 2022, 08:47:00 PM
And lions eat seagulls.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on November 13, 2022, 08:50:20 PM
And lions eat seagulls.

Even if they face the wrong way!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 13, 2022, 08:53:56 PM
The seagulls are fucking huge.

There’s no such thing as a seagull, just gulls that live by the sea

I bet you know that from an episode of QI.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 13, 2022, 08:54:34 PM
And lions eat seagulls.

Even if they face the wrong way!

Still faces the right way for now, so he had a nice meal today.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 13, 2022, 09:09:33 PM
I thought Digne was very fortunate. He just kind of hesitated on the ball and allowed Marsh to come in on his blind side. Would have been a farcical penalty to concede. I wasn't impressed in the slightest by our McLeish esque tactics in last 30 mins or whenever Young came on. They missed a sitter of a chance late on too, free header six yards out. 

I thought early in the second half Kamara and Luiz really were dominating midfield. Ramsey wasn't involved much but thought Sanson would have been a better option to come in then to try and keep the ball. Young did ok but there was no need to switch to a back 5/6/7 that early. Brighton were very average but that tactical change helped them get back into the game.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: enigma on November 13, 2022, 09:23:34 PM
Wasn't able to see the game. Was our shithousery really that bad?  Comments on the Guardian match report has plenty of wailing from Brighton fans.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 13, 2022, 09:27:23 PM
I thought Digne was very fortunate. He just kind of hesitated on the ball and allowed Marsh to come in on his blind side. Would have been a farcical penalty to concede. I wasn't impressed in the slightest by our McLeish esque tactics in last 30 mins or whenever Young came on. They missed a sitter of a chance late on too, free header six yards out. 

I thought early in the second half Kamara and Luiz really were dominating midfield. Ramsey wasn't involved much but thought Sanson would have been a better option to come in then to try and keep the ball. Young did ok but there was no need to switch to a back 5/6/7 that early. Brighton were very average but that tactical change helped them get back into the game.

It wasn’t as if Brighton were peppering our goal. They had few chances to equalise the free header apart. Yes, we got lucky for the Var decision that went in our favour. We of all teams are due a bit with the amount that have gone against us. I’ve read the arguments as to why it wasn’t given but still see a penalty. Emery is a good manager, if he’s a lucky one too who lnows where it will take us.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 13, 2022, 09:28:19 PM
Brighton supporter on 606 saying we were a disgrace, well tough you did years ago when you were shit, we ain't rolling over anymore

My mates dad. We've been bickering on Facebook ever since the game finished.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 13, 2022, 09:38:09 PM
I thought Digne was very fortunate. He just kind of hesitated on the ball and allowed Marsh to come in on his blind side. Would have been a farcical penalty to concede. I wasn't impressed in the slightest by our McLeish esque tactics in last 30 mins or whenever Young came on. They missed a sitter of a chance late on too, free header six yards out. 

I thought early in the second half Kamara and Luiz really were dominating midfield. Ramsey wasn't involved much but thought Sanson would have been a better option to come in then to try and keep the ball. Young did ok but there was no need to switch to a back 5/6/7 that early. Brighton were very average but that tactical change helped them get back into the game.

It wasn’t pretty and we gave the ball away too much in the last part of the game, but ultimately it was effective and we managed the game out well, the lapse for the free header aside. Ultimately the subs were all effective.
Brighton have only lost to Spurs at home this season by one goal, beating Chelsea and drawing with Newcastle on the way, they also play expansive football if allowed. In that context, Emery deciding to see the game out as he did, seems ok to me.  I really think this was an excellent result. We won with style last week and won rough and dirty this week, the important factor is we won.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Baldy on November 13, 2022, 09:40:36 PM
With our atrocious away record and recent habit of conceding 4 goals, Emery used all the tools currently at his disposal to turn the tide.

For now, if it takes a bit of shithousery, so be it.

Imagine what it will be like when he has his own tool kit!! Happy days.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 13, 2022, 09:43:28 PM
Brighton supporter on 606 saying we were a disgrace, well tough you did years ago when you were shit, we ain't rolling over anymore

My mates dad. We've been bickering on Facebook ever since the game finished.

Tell him… dry your eyes mate
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on November 13, 2022, 09:46:26 PM
Just read some of the comments after the Guardian match report after being mentioned on here. Bloody hell, we were fouling all game and apparently we’ve played the same way when we had Smith and Gerrard in charge. I don’t think they like us, let’s hope a few more teams start feeling the same way as that’ll mean we’re getting good results and being successful.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Des Little on November 13, 2022, 10:04:01 PM
No one likes us.  We don’t care.

Up the Villa
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 13, 2022, 10:20:39 PM
No one likes us.  We don’t care.

Up the Villa

Always remember when I was a kid my big brothers workmate, veteran of the 70's telling me "Everybody hates the Villa when we're good"


Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 13, 2022, 10:22:14 PM
And lions eat seagulls.

Is that a line from an Eric Cantona poem?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on November 13, 2022, 10:23:16 PM
Just read some of the comments after the Guardian match report after being mentioned on here. Bloody hell, we were fouling all game and apparently we’ve played the same way when we had Smith and Gerrard in charge. I don’t think they like us, let’s hope a few more teams start feeling the same way as that’ll mean we’re getting good results and being successful.
It's fucking laughable. Did anyone watch Man Shitty against Brentford? They dived they cheated and they did everything to shithouse a win but for once the officials stood firm and didn't cave in. Man United,Chelsea,Liverpool have been doing the same shit for years. I don't like it but it appears the only way to get anywhere these days is to shithouse your way through. If that's what Unai wants to instill into our mentally so be it. Bring it on. Fuck the lot of em.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: OzVilla on November 13, 2022, 10:47:39 PM
We won, fuck em.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: AV82EC on November 13, 2022, 10:54:48 PM
I see the Dunk for England bandwagon has somewhat stalled. Looked every inch the Championship defender he is, selling himself and going to ground for both goals.

Great win, ground it out and showed some resilience. Onwards…..
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on November 13, 2022, 11:08:37 PM
MOTD2 Jermaine Defoe has done an analysis piece on Ings and must have said 'Y'know' about 30 times in 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: not3bad on November 13, 2022, 11:13:59 PM
Loved to see the analysis of Villa's defensive organisation on MOTD2.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 13, 2022, 11:22:19 PM
And for all that whingeing about their penalty, it was a fucking foul on Doug for their goal
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ROBBO on November 13, 2022, 11:33:12 PM
Thought we were lucky toward the end packing the defence, we had far more control before the changes, having said that it's about time we won an ugly match. If we can get a couple of upgrades after Xmas we will in the top half.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 13, 2022, 11:41:23 PM
Loved to see the analysis of Villa's defensive organisation on MOTD2.
Yes, thought that was brilliant.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 13, 2022, 11:47:53 PM
MOTD2 Jermaine Defoe has done an analysis piece on Ings and must have said 'Y'know' about 30 times in 2 minutes.

I thought exactly the same, it was hideous listening.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on November 13, 2022, 11:53:45 PM
Same.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: baddowvillans on November 13, 2022, 11:55:12 PM
Hey, where’s @Flin5tone?

I don't know but I bet he's "fuming"!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 13, 2022, 11:59:04 PM
Hey, where’s @Flin5tone?

Hasn't been seen since the equaliser. He's not a troll, though.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on November 14, 2022, 12:11:45 AM
Hey, where’s @Flin5tone?

I don't know but I bet he's "fuming"!

He's on the shadow site on on the dark web where only damned souls can visit.

He sez:

It's a fuckin shambles and the owners are having a right giraffe.
The goalkeeper is a disgrace to football and it's no wonder the Arse wanted to get rid.
Ditto the manager.
No point build building a new stand, we should close several stands like Small Heath.
Public Transport in Birmingham is no good because Brummies are thick.
Ditto catering and hospitality.

The Circumlocution Office and Department of Trolls. 
 

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villan82 on November 14, 2022, 12:18:36 AM
Sobering up after a heavy day. Great to be on the move- Emery is the one
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Smithy on November 14, 2022, 12:23:10 AM
On the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review.  Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.

If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: eamonn on November 14, 2022, 12:28:14 AM
A pity Emi's flying header didn't go in - it was quite sexy.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: eamonn on November 14, 2022, 12:29:26 AM
Would I like us to play from first whistle to last like the team of '77 reincarnate? Yes.

Am I happy to see us grind out 3 points away from home with a performance that ’17/18 Preston would've been proud of? Also yes.

17/18 Preston, huh?  A niche reference... care to elaborate? Or maybe Amfy will recall.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 14, 2022, 12:32:14 AM
Just read some of the comments after the Guardian match report after being mentioned on here. Bloody hell, we were fouling all game and apparently we’ve played the same way when we had Smith and Gerrard in charge. I don’t think they like us, let’s hope a few more teams start feeling the same way as that’ll mean we’re getting good results and being successful.

Load of nonsense. Stat came up with 10 minutes left. Number of fouls at that time: Brighton 12 Villa 9.

After that was as cynical as it gets but that's what you have to do to win away games sometimes.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on November 14, 2022, 12:36:11 AM
On the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review.  Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.

If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.

I can remember a time when an indirect free kick would be given. This would have been based on the fact that there was no intent to foul. I recall Bruce Rioch scoring from of these at the Holte.

In terms of today's rules, it was likely a penalty.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 14, 2022, 12:41:01 AM
We'd have wanted a penalty if that was the other way round. But it wasn't, so fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on November 14, 2022, 12:42:02 AM
We'd have wanted a penalty if that was the other way round. But it wasn't, so fuck 'em.

That's the crux of the matter.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 14, 2022, 12:42:16 AM
Give them the Pen and a chance of taking it against Emi, and we take back the first goal for the foul on Luiz. Seems fair.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rory on November 14, 2022, 01:06:02 AM
On the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review.  Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.

If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.

I can remember a time when an indirect free kick would be given. This would have been based on the fact that there was no intent to foul. I recall Bruce Rioch scoring from of these at the Holte.

In terms of today's rules, it was likely a penalty.

I know what you mean, but again it's a VAR issue. It is applied with such little consistency that nobody knows what they're actually looking for.

"There was contact..." Well yes, but that isn't automatically a penalty, something commentators and pundits often forget.

I'm no referee, so anybody with more knowledge, of course feel free to correct me, but for me there are a few questions:

Was the Brighton player in control of the ball? No.

Was it intentional? No.

Was it dangerous play? No.

Was there a realistic way for Digne to avoid the contact? For me, no. He was in the middle of trying to clear the ball when the Brighton player threw himself in there, failed to win the ball and caught a piece of the movement that Digne had already biomechanically initiated and committed to.

It was a coming-together (Kenneth Williams meme), nothing more.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Matt C on November 14, 2022, 01:56:30 AM
Streetwise win. That wasn’t pretty but it was smart and effective. Some incredible shithousery in the last 20 minutes but a fine change to be the architect for a change.

I counted three different formations in 90 minutes? What a difference a great coach makes.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: London Villan on November 14, 2022, 05:55:10 AM
Just read some of the comments after the Guardian match report after being mentioned on here. Bloody hell, we were fouling all game and apparently we’ve played the same way when we had Smith and Gerrard in charge. I don’t think they like us, let’s hope a few more teams start feeling the same way as that’ll mean we’re getting good results and being successful.

Load of nonsense. Stat came up with 10 minutes left. Number of fouls at that time: Brighton 12 Villa 9.

After that was as cynical as it gets but that's what you have to do to win away games sometimes.

Man city are the masters of it, yet pep is a genius.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: malckennedy on November 14, 2022, 08:11:03 AM
Just read some of the comments after the Guardian match report after being mentioned on here. Bloody hell, we were fouling all game and apparently we’ve played the same way when we had Smith and Gerrard in charge. I don’t think they like us, let’s hope a few more teams start feeling the same way as that’ll mean we’re getting good results and being successful.

Load of nonsense. Stat came up with 10 minutes left. Number of fouls at that time: Brighton 12 Villa 9.

After that was as cynical as it gets but that's what you have to do to win away games sometimes.

Yeah. Final foul count was them 14, us 11. So their point is plain wrong.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Paul.S on November 14, 2022, 08:45:17 AM
We still have the ability to give a goal away out of nothing but the players definitely seem to be enjoying playing for Emery. Defensively we need to buy but I’ve got to give them some credit yesterday. The usual capitulation away from home stopped, the players dug in and turned it round and we actually developed a backbone and got stuck in.
The football will improve but we couldn’t have dreamt we’d come away with 6 points from the last 2 games. A massive relief.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 14, 2022, 08:54:30 AM
Coming from a goal behind to win away is very un-Villa. I felt we were much the more dangerous side and you can see the belief starting to resonate in the squad. Sometimes you don't always fix things by declaring players are shit all the time "Bailey is shit, Young is shit"". Mostly you need good management. 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Smithy on November 14, 2022, 09:39:01 AM
I find it hard to enjoy shithousing. I know some fans revel in it when we're holding on to a lead, but I always feel a little cringe when I see it being taken to extremes (like big Emi throwing the ball out after a regulation save). I'm all for being slow at set pieces, not rushing, but it does feel like we've taken it a bit too far.  I get it, and I'll happily take the three points it can secure every day of the week, but it does take a tiny bit of the shine off when we do it.  I always want Villa to be "better" than other teams.  But I'll definitely take winning with shithousing over impeccable behaviour and losing.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: eamonn on November 14, 2022, 09:41:42 AM
Agreed. I want us to outfootball teams. Short-term shithousery ok, but only til Emery has coached them to pass and move with purpose.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 14, 2022, 09:41:48 AM
I find it hard to enjoy shithousing. I know some fans revel in it when we're holding on to a lead, but I always feel a little cringe when I see it being taken to extremes (like big Emi throwing the ball out after a regulation save). I'm all for being slow at set pieces, not rushing, but it does feel like we've taken it a bit too far.  I get it, and I'll happily take the three points it can secure every day of the week, but it does take a tiny bit of the shine off when we do it.  I always want Villa to be "better" than other teams.  But I'll definitely take winning with shithousing over impeccable behaviour and losing.


Yes I get what your saying .  I am hoping as we improve as a team we can dictate a game with possession 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 09:42:26 AM
No, I love it. I enjoyed that more than the Man Utd game yesterday.

It's been a major bugbear of mine for years that if always feels like we're the stooges, playing by the book whilst everyone else mugs us off. Not anymore.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Drummond on November 14, 2022, 09:52:44 AM
I see both sides. I think when you're at the match, especially away from home, it's fabulous to revel in it.. A bit like the Ole chant when your team is passing it about.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Smoke on November 14, 2022, 10:03:29 AM
Once Man Utd went ahead on Thursday they slowed down, had "injuries" and took forever when making subs etc but wasn't mentioned, just accepted. Yet amazingly given that game had (at that point) 5! Goals in the second half, countless injuries, about 4 or 5 sub breaks there was only 4 minutes added on.

8 minutes yesterday though. Go figure.

If every other fucker is benefitting from it I sure as hell want us benefitting from it.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 14, 2022, 10:06:30 AM
yep 8 minutes of injury time will probably stop teams being so blatant if that is consistent 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bully2345 on November 14, 2022, 10:08:13 AM
If you want to win a lot, you can't always do it being nice guys with free flowing football. Killing the game with time wasting is fine by me. Annoying when it happens to us but until the rule makers change the game to stop it, we might as well join in. The only solution I've seen that might stop it is half hour halves with a stopping clock when the ball is dead but that made people angry when they suggested it so it won't happen.

We showed good character, played well after the shocking first ten minutes and then killed the game. Rode our luck a bit (it should have been a penalty and they had the free header) but I was chuffed with what I saw. Was a great Sunday
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 14, 2022, 10:12:00 AM
yep 8 minutes of injury time will probably stop teams being so blatant if that is consistent 

Yes - and my one grumble yesterday was not so much we did it, but we made it so obvious.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on November 14, 2022, 10:17:40 AM
On the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review.  Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.

If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.

I can remember a time when an indirect free kick would be given. This would have been based on the fact that there was no intent to foul. I recall Bruce Rioch scoring from of these at the Holte.

In terms of today's rules, it was likely a penalty.

I know what you mean, but again it's a VAR issue. It is applied with such little consistency that nobody knows what they're actually looking for.

"There was contact..." Well yes, but that isn't automatically a penalty, something commentators and pundits often forget.

I'm no referee, so anybody with more knowledge, of course feel free to correct me, but for me there are a few questions:

Was the Brighton player in control of the ball? No.

Was it intentional? No.

Was it dangerous play? No.

Was there a realistic way for Digne to avoid the contact? For me, no. He was in the middle of trying to clear the ball when the Brighton player threw himself in there, failed to win the ball and caught a piece of the movement that Digne had already biomechanically initiated and committed to.

It was a coming-together (Kenneth Williams meme), nothing more.
Biomechanically initiated!! Oooooohhh someone's swallowed a dictionary  ;)
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on November 14, 2022, 10:26:08 AM
Chelsea turned "gamesmanship" into an artform on their way to becoming a top club. Man Utd and Liverpool have been masters of the dark arts for more years than I can remember and now Man City are using every trick in the book because they know they can get away with it. The romantic in me likes to think "we're Aston Villa, we're better than that" but the realist in me knows the truth which is we have to use every trick in the book to gain an advantage. That's just the way it is. We may as well get used to it.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
Once we've shithoused our way to dominating the English game and winning back to back European competitions, I'll be happy to campaign to end this cynical blight on the game, as it will be tiresome watching teams come and put 10 men behind the ball and play for a point.

Until then though, they can all piss off.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 14, 2022, 10:41:06 AM
Hey, where’s @Flin5tone?

I don't know but I bet he's "fuming"!

Still no sign of him?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 10:49:04 AM
Hey, where’s @Flin5tone?

I don't know but I bet he's "fuming"!

Still no sign of him?

Amazing isn't it? I reckon he's actually some Russian bot , bored as fuck, sat in a warehouse in Lithuania. And rather than defending Jacob Rees Mogg whilst pretending to be a 57 year dog loving housewife from Mansfield like he's paid to do, he shitposts on here instead.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 14, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
Once we've shithoused our way to dominating the English game and winning back to back European competitions, I'll be happy to campaign to end this cynical blight on the game, as it will be tiresome watching teams come and put 10 men behind the ball and play for a point.

Until then though, they can all piss off.

The thing I like about it is it is an indication we are FINALLY showing a bit of fucking nous. Watch Newcastle, btw, they're probably even 'worse' at it than we are. And as someone else said, Man United too.

I can't stand teams like Brighton, out of the wilderness after decades, a few years in the top flight and they're lecturing people on how they play.

They can fuck off. I preferred them when they were penniless and playing on some school playing field.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 10:52:48 AM
We've had some disgraceful decisions against us over the years (Kevin Friend at Palace and Ratboy getting a penalty for stamping on Konsa to name but two) so forgive me if I don't start blarting when we start using the dark arts to see out a win. As Lee says, when we've establised a team of Galacticos we can then start playing like Corinthians and refuse to take penalties if you like.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 14, 2022, 10:54:17 AM
Coming from a goal behind to win away is very un-Villa. I felt we were much the more dangerous side and you can see the belief starting to resonate in the squad. Sometimes you don't always fix things by declaring players are shit all the time "Bailey is shit, Young is shit"". Mostly you need good management.

A lot of professional footballers have remarkable self belief and resilience. Young had a lot of injury problems at Old Trafford as a wiry winger, he could have played out the last few seasons of his career but instead bulks up and becomes a full back. Wins a league title at Inter and playing very well for us still at 37. To be honest, Southgate really should have picked him as you know he would have been a decent option in either fullback spot.

Bailey's performance at Fulham was a new low. For some that would have devastated whatever confidence you had left but only a few days later he is scoring and creating goals. You read about the early part of his career and all the graft he put into making it was remarkable.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 10:56:59 AM
Once we've shithoused our way to dominating the English game and winning back to back European competitions, I'll be happy to campaign to end this cynical blight on the game, as it will be tiresome watching teams come and put 10 men behind the ball and play for a point.

Until then though, they can all piss off.

The thing I like about it is it is an indication we are FINALLY showing a bit of fucking nous. Watch Newcastle, btw, they're probably even 'worse' at it than we are. And as someone else said, Man United too.

I can't stand teams like Brighton, out of the wilderness after decades, a few years in the top flight and they're lecturing people on how they play.


They can fuck off. I preferred them when they were penniless and playing on some school playing field.

We had quite a lot of this in the Championship, Brentford, Norwich and this lot telling us what we should be doing because they'd had some measure of success and now they were guardians of some special knowledge to bestow upon us.

Get fucked.

I ended up barrelling on the Cardiff lad who's actually turned out to be sound and still posts on here because of that, but it really pissed me off.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: paul_e on November 14, 2022, 11:04:16 AM
Once we've shithoused our way to dominating the English game and winning back to back European competitions, I'll be happy to campaign to end this cynical blight on the game, as it will be tiresome watching teams come and put 10 men behind the ball and play for a point.

Until then though, they can all piss off.

The thing I like about it is it is an indication we are FINALLY showing a bit of fucking nous. Watch Newcastle, btw, they're probably even 'worse' at it than we are. And as someone else said, Man United too.

I can't stand teams like Brighton, out of the wilderness after decades, a few years in the top flight and they're lecturing people on how they play.

They can fuck off. I preferred them when they were penniless and playing on some school playing field.

It's not even since they came up, They were ugly and functional at best under Hughton so all this cocky bullshit is on the back of 3 years under Potter, and for most of that time they were utterly toothless, playing pretty football in midfield but susceptible to giving away soft goals and timid in the oposition penalty area. It was barely a step up from Mowbray at the Baggies so they can wind their necks in a bit, especially given they commited more fouls than we did and there was a handball shout which was about as good a call for the penalty as the one by Digne that they've now all decided was the most stonewall pen in history.

Also taking moral high ground bullshit from a team that employed Maupay is a fucking joke, they got some short memories down there.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: martyn ellis on November 14, 2022, 11:04:40 AM
MOTD2 last night and some very complimentary comments by Jermaine 'Genius' on how we played out the last 20 minutes. he didn;t call it shithousery; he called it filling the gaps, keeping our defensive shape and speculating that Brighton could have played another hour and not found a way through. Also other Jermaine (Defoe variety) highlighting what a good game Ings had with some very insightful analysis. Normally I think a lot of the post-match analysis is something to be put on fast forward if you record the programme, but this I thought was spot on.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 14, 2022, 11:05:05 AM
We've had some disgraceful decisions against us over the years (Kevin Friend at Palace and Ratboy getting a penalty for stamping on Konsa to name but two) so forgive me if I don't start blarting when we start using the dark arts to see out a win. As Lee says, when we've establised a team of Galacticos we can then start playing like Corinthians and refuse to take penalties if you like.

The one that grates on me is the play off final when the bloke stamped on Grealish. Stamped on him and got booked. Obviously with Bruce in charge we may not have won but a better chance for sure
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 14, 2022, 11:10:47 AM
It's probably for the best that we lost that playoff final, mind.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 11:14:25 AM
It's probably for the best that we lost that playoff final, mind.

Didn't feel like that on the way home though, especially as the toilet was bost and stinking up the coach
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on November 14, 2022, 11:14:32 AM
Most definitely.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 14, 2022, 11:20:20 AM
It's probably for the best that we lost that playoff final, mind.

In hindsight but a disgraceful decision
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: olaftab on November 14, 2022, 11:22:45 AM
The win yesterday had nothing to do with any general  gamesmanship, which is always welcomed when required, it was as analysed on MotD due to tactical game plan. As Jenas said Brighton could have had another 30 mins and they wouldn't have got through.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: London Villan on November 14, 2022, 11:36:45 AM
I said that watching the match - at no point did Brighton start thumping long balls into the box to put us under pressure. They just kept on with their same, pretty ineffective, game plan of pass pass pass pass pass - which we coped with easily.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
I said that watching the match - at no point did Brighton start thumping long balls into the box to put us under pressure. They just kept on with their same, pretty ineffective, game plan of pass pass pass pass pass - which we coped with easily.

We got behind them a good few times in the first half, and for the winner, with intricate passing and balls over the top of them. Can't remember them doing that to us once.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Monty on November 14, 2022, 11:39:06 AM
I'm pretty sure if they'd gone all Dave Bassett we'd have been fine.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 14, 2022, 11:41:19 AM
Coming from a goal behind to win away is very un-Villa. I felt we were much the more dangerous side and you can see the belief starting to resonate in the squad. Sometimes you don't always fix things by declaring players are shit all the time "Bailey is shit, Young is shit"". Mostly you need good management.

A lot of professional footballers have remarkable self belief and resilience. Young had a lot of injury problems at Old Trafford as a wiry winger, he could have played out the last few seasons of his career but instead bulks up and becomes a full back. Wins a league title at Inter and playing very well for us still at 37. To be honest, Southgate really should have picked him as you know he would have been a decent option in either fullback spot.

Bailey's performance at Fulham was a new low. For some that would have devastated whatever confidence you had left but only a few days later he is scoring and creating goals. You read about the early part of his career and all the graft he put into making it was remarkable.

True but there's a big difference between singular and collective belief.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 11:43:04 AM
I said that watching the match - at no point did Brighton start thumping long balls into the box to put us under pressure. They just kept on with their same, pretty ineffective, game plan of pass pass pass pass pass - which we coped with easily.

It's served them pretty well this season to be fair. It's important to have a defined style, but it won't always be successful. I thought Brighton looked a decent footballing side, just one without a cutting edge against us.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: London Villan on November 14, 2022, 11:46:27 AM
Yep - they couldn't break us down, no plan B... We've seen more tactical nous of Emery in his first two league games than we saw in 12 months of Slippy and without being harsh 3 years of Smith.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 14, 2022, 11:46:58 AM
I said that watching the match - at no point did Brighton start thumping long balls into the box to put us under pressure. They just kept on with their same, pretty ineffective, game plan of pass pass pass pass pass - which we coped with easily.

As they said on MOTD, Brighton wouldn't have scored another if they'd played till midnight.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 11:51:02 AM
I wasn't particularly nervous watching it, despite the decades worth of injury time. I started to think what I'd be thinking if the roles were reversed, and I'd have been sat there thinking there's no way we're scoring here.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 14, 2022, 11:53:44 AM
Yeah, I was calmer yesterday with a one goal lead than I was last week when we were two up. That may be because of our histories against the respective clubs, though.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 14, 2022, 11:55:05 AM
Yep - they couldn't break us down, no plan B... We've seen more tactical nous of Emery in his first two league games than we saw in 12 months of Slippy and without being harsh 3 years of Smith.

Yes, it is a bit different then same formation, but different players. Or even different formation, I'll stick with it for 90 mins even if not working.

In the three matches under him, we have had different starting formations and players in each, and changes of tactics with changes of personnel when needed.

I expect it could be frustrating for players and fans going forward (Rainieri's nickname for example when he did it) but at least you know the manager is trying to get results instead of sticking with the things that don't work. From the highlights yesterday, it looked like McGinn had the role in midfield he almost plays in Scotland, told to make the runs into the space Ings made as it led to the first goal and a few other chances. I actually thought it was Ings who made the run initially as McGinn was so far forward.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 11:57:06 AM
Yeah, I was calmer yesterday with a one goal lead than I was last week when we were two up. That may be because of our histories against the respective clubs, though.

Same here. Mainly because at any second you expect the ref to give the Mancs an absolutely outrageous decision.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Fasth56 on November 14, 2022, 12:11:01 PM
I'm in the do whatever it takes to become an established top six team and then make it a little more subtle. The irony about all this is the Leeds manager started this debate when Leeds in fact started all this shithousery 50 years ago. If we can emulate the success they had (albeit with a few more trophies) in the late 60's and early 70's, I couldn't give a toss about all this sniping.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 14, 2022, 12:18:40 PM
Hey, where’s @Flin5tone?

I don't know but I bet he's "fuming"!

Still no sign of him?

Amazing isn't it? I reckon he's actually some Russian bot , bored as fuck, sat in a warehouse in Lithuania.

Definitely more Vilnian than Villan.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 14, 2022, 12:29:51 PM
The last 30 mins or so was a defensive master class from Emery, against a Brighton side, who a couple weeks ago put 4 past Chelsea. That day was also one of the most pathetic displays I've seen from a Villa side losing to Newcastle, which shows just how brilliantly Unai has turned us from a side, who has no backbone whatsoever, to a side, who now gives absolutely everything for the boss and fans.

Thought Kamara played well, forming a good partnership with Douglas and McGinn had his best game for a while. Tyrone 2nd half performance was international class, but unfortunately he has too many displays like he did in the first half to make it in the WC squad.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 12:31:05 PM
When we're 3-0 up every game, we won't need to shithouse.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 14, 2022, 01:16:05 PM
Being totally honest, I did think it went a little too far yesterday and we did put ourselves under further pressure with the 8 minutes of added time.  Also picked up some pretty unnecessary bookings in the process.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 01:24:15 PM
I'v watched the penalty again claim, and it really is a load of rubbish that it was 'stonewall'. Digne has the ball and is trying to clear it out of defence. He goes to kick the ball, but hits the turf, mainly because March has dived in with what wasn't far off being a scissor tackle. It then hits Digne's standing leg and bounces free. At the very worst, it's a 50/50 coming together.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Nev on November 14, 2022, 01:26:17 PM
Until they outlaw shithousing for everyone we should do it.

I'm sick of sitting on the sidelines watching every other fucker waving trophies around.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dr.chekov on November 14, 2022, 01:28:20 PM
Elite level football is repugnant – corruption, sports washing, hype, greed, lions facing the wrong direction – Martinez shithousing Lewis Dunk is pretty far down the list of things to worry about for me.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Monty on November 14, 2022, 01:30:16 PM
I'v watched the penalty again claim, and it really is a load of rubbish that it was 'stonewall'. Digne has the ball and is trying to clear it out of defence. He goes to kick the ball, but hits the turf, mainly because March has dived in with what wasn't far off being a scissor tackle. It then hits Digne's standing leg and bounces free. At the very worst, it's a 50/50 coming together.

Agreed, really was surprised at the time at the vehemence of reaction to the incident.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 01:34:11 PM
I'v watched the penalty again claim, and it really is a load of rubbish that it was 'stonewall'. Digne has the ball and is trying to clear it out of defence. He goes to kick the ball, but hits the turf, mainly because March has dived in with what wasn't far off being a scissor tackle. It then hits Digne's standing leg and bounces free. At the very worst, it's a 50/50 coming together.

If yer man had poked it through Digne's legs and then got whacked then maybe, but he doesn't. It basically the foul equivalent of when players try to chip the ball against someone's hand to get a penalty. Get fucked with that, and anyway, fuck you March for getting away with the Trez one a couple of years back.

And that game, which they won 2-1 and we fucking battered them, they were massively shithousing if I remember correctly, trying to get Jack sent off by exaggerating contact. I remember similar sanctimony amongst their fans afterwards.

They play in blue and white and have Albion in their name. Urrgh.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 14, 2022, 01:35:16 PM
Yeah, I was calmer yesterday with a one goal lead than I was last week when we were two up. That may be because of our histories against the respective clubs, though.

Same here. Mainly because at any second you expect the ref to give the Mancs an absolutely outrageous decision.

I think my calmness came down to two things. Firstly that we were managing it well, but secondly I’d have taken a point before the game and I think that was in my subconscious. Now had they scored I’d have been pissed off, but because of that underlying expectation I think I was calmer than normal.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 14, 2022, 01:46:45 PM
Yeah, I was calmer yesterday with a one goal lead than I was last week when we were two up. That may be because of our histories against the respective clubs, though.

Same here. Mainly because at any second you expect the ref to give the Mancs an absolutely outrageous decision.

I think my calmness came down to two things. Firstly that we were managing it well, but secondly I’d have taken a point before the game and I think that was in my subconscious. Now had they scored I’d have been pissed off, but because of that underlying expectation I think I was calmer than normal.

Same here, Paul. Once VAR ruled against their penalty appeal I pretty much knew we'd hold out, even go on to get a third.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 14, 2022, 02:06:34 PM
Re the pen, I've not heard one pundit say it wasn't a pen, I've looked for neutral fans views and the large majority of them said it was pen. If it had happened to us, I've no doubt there would have been uproar on here.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Drummond on November 14, 2022, 02:09:15 PM
Re the pen, I've not heard one pundit say it wasn't a pen, I've looked for neutral fans views and the large majority of them said it was pen. If it had happened to us, I've no doubt there would have been uproar on here.

But it didn't. And as Steve Bruce would say, 'it's one of them ones'.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Smithy on November 14, 2022, 02:18:27 PM
Once Man Utd went ahead on Thursday they slowed down, had "injuries" and took forever when making subs etc but wasn't mentioned, just accepted. Yet amazingly given that game had (at that point) 5! Goals in the second half, countless injuries, about 4 or 5 sub breaks there was only 4 minutes added on.

8 minutes yesterday though. Go figure.

If every other fucker is benefitting from it I sure as hell want us benefitting from it.

I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember reading that the referee's "guidance" on added time is 30 seconds for a sub, and 30 seconds for a booking.  So given we made five subs and had 7 bookings it's not surprising there was so much added time.  I don't think it was directly related to us time-wasting.  If it was, it would soon stop, as it wouldn't help at all.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 02:19:53 PM
Once Man Utd went ahead on Thursday they slowed down, had "injuries" and took forever when making subs etc but wasn't mentioned, just accepted. Yet amazingly given that game had (at that point) 5! Goals in the second half, countless injuries, about 4 or 5 sub breaks there was only 4 minutes added on.

8 minutes yesterday though. Go figure.

If every other fucker is benefitting from it I sure as hell want us benefitting from it.

I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember reading that the referee's "guidance" on added time is 30 seconds for a sub, and 30 seconds for a booking.  So given we made five subs and had 7 bookings it's not surprising there was so much added time.  I don't think it was directly related to us time-wasting.  If it was, it would soon stop, as it wouldn't help at all.

But we made 3 subs at the same time too
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 02:22:25 PM

But we made 3 subs at the same time too

Yes, surely if you bring 5 subs on at once it wouldn't then lead to 2 and a ½ minutes of extra time?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on November 14, 2022, 02:26:55 PM
Re the pen, I've not heard one pundit say it wasn't a pen, I've looked for neutral fans views and the large majority of them said it was pen. If it had happened to us, I've no doubt there would have been uproar on here.

But it didn't. And as Steve Bruce would say, 'it's one of them ones'.

Exactly, we've had more than enough decisions go against us in recent years.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 02:27:04 PM
Kamara's yellow irked me most. Both players had their feet up, Kamara gets to the ball first, their player goes down like he's shot and they get a free kick and a yellow card shown. And on the Guardian match thread the reporter says he's lucky it was not worse, wtf? It wasn't even a foul
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 02:29:00 PM
Kamara's yellow irked me most. Both players had their feet up, Kamara gets to the ball first, their player goes down like he's shot and they get a free kick and a yellow card shown. And on the Guardian match thread the reporter says he's lucky it was not worse, wtf? It wasn't even a foul

The Mings one was similar wasn't it? Won the ball, but booked anyway.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 02:33:27 PM
Kamara's yellow irked me most. Both players had their feet up, Kamara gets to the ball first, their player goes down like he's shot and they get a free kick and a yellow card shown. And on the Guardian match thread the reporter says he's lucky it was not worse, wtf? It wasn't even a foul

The Mings one was similar wasn't it? Won the ball, but booked anyway.

Now he did, but he pulled the player back before exectuing the clean tackle. I don't have a problem with that, pulling shirts should be a yellow because it's just plain cheating.

But a few minutes later that prick (he's a prick now, I've seen enough of him) March got tackled cleanly by Digne who came out with the ball, he clearly pulled his shirt but Digne got away only for him to catch him up and clatter him from behind, but no card for that or that carthorse for the penalty.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: simboy on November 14, 2022, 02:37:06 PM
To play a side who had drawn with Liverpool, turned over Chelsea 4-1 and knocked out a decent Arsenal side out of the league cup  without an away win the whole season. Having the two wider attacking options both side-lined with illness, to adjust the strategy to suit Ings at short notice, showed what a difference Emery makes. Not the prettiest of performances but you don't gain points just for being a pretty team.

Looked like a hand ball for a penalty in the first half for us from the corner too be fair and why wasn't Dunk booked for his scything down of McGinn? I get the red card is double jeopardy but nothing at all. 

Anyway, 3 points, a bit of mid table mediocracy and Carragher upset his pal Stevie Me failed. What more could you ask for Christmas bearing in mind the mess we were against Fulham.     
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 02:43:02 PM
I did think that when we scored, Carragher's over the top "the Aston Villa players need to look at themselves" probably had a double meaning, the disgusting gobbing Scouse prick.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 02:43:37 PM
I forgot about that handball, when he gently volloyballed it out and away from danger, not a peep from Carragher than.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on November 14, 2022, 02:45:10 PM
Didn't see the match as stuck in rural Queensland this week, so reliant on the threads here for input. Filtered through a fair bit of local Bunderberg rum am pleased with the result and the battling nature of the performance.

It seems we finally have a top class manager, and even better, one that manages games to get results.

A month of working with the squad with us a win off top six - wouldn't bet against us making the Europa league places. Going to enjoy the wprld cup much more now we are able to look up the table rather than over our shoulders. Wolves being bottom makes it even better too.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 14, 2022, 02:46:22 PM
I did think that when we scored, Carragher's over the top "the Aston Villa players need to look at themselves" probably had a double meaning, the disgusting gobbing Scouse prick.

Is it not comprehendible to spitty  that players would work harder to a system and game plan they believe in 
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: paul_e on November 14, 2022, 02:51:46 PM
Kamara's yellow irked me most. Both players had their feet up, Kamara gets to the ball first, their player goes down like he's shot and they get a free kick and a yellow card shown. And on the Guardian match thread the reporter says he's lucky it was not worse, wtf? It wasn't even a foul

The Mings one was similar wasn't it? Won the ball, but booked anyway.

Now he did, but he pulled the player back before exectuing the clean tackle. I don't have a problem with that, pulling shirts should be a yellow because it's just plain cheating.

But a few minutes later that prick (he's a prick now, I've seen enough of him) March got tackled cleanly by Digne who came out with the ball, he clearly pulled his shirt but Digne got away only for him to catch him up and clatter him from behind, but no card for that or that carthorse for the penalty.

Yep, I could live with the Mings one if that by March and the one by Caicedo a few minutes later were both yellows and if he'd booked Dunk for the penalty which was a clear professional foul to ensure even if he didn't win the ball there was no chance McGinn was getting back on it. Seeing Mings booked and 3 fouls that were at least as bad all go unpunished was what made it so annoying.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: villadelph on November 14, 2022, 02:56:49 PM
Jesus wept, TalkSport bringing on Howard Webb to talk about our time wasting, the penalty shout and emi martinez antics. Get over it already and talk about Ronaldo or something.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 14, 2022, 03:05:08 PM
Southern Trains!! The sooner we renationalise our railways the better. No trains to Brighton from London Bridge. Trains from Blackfriars all cancelled, with no notice. Only trains to Brighton were from Victoria. Except there were none by the time we got there from Blackfriars. Had to go to Gatwick and change from there. I’ve never had an easy journey to Brighton - that Friday night fiasco being the worst - which is a shame because once you get to the ground it’s great.

Any road up, a win’s a win. Let the opposition worry about how we went about it
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: simboy on November 14, 2022, 03:07:32 PM
Jesus wept, TalkSport bringing on Howard Webb to talk about our time wasting, the penalty shout and emi martinez antics. Get over it already and talk about Ronaldo or something.


There is only one thing worse than being talked about ….

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 03:17:35 PM
Jesus wept, TalkSport bringing on Howard Webb to talk about our time wasting, the penalty shout and emi martinez antics. Get over it already and talk about Ronaldo or something.

He can fuck of n'all
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: simboy on November 14, 2022, 03:22:36 PM
Southern Trains!! The sooner we renationalise our railways the better. No trains to Brighton from London Bridge. Trains from Blackfriars all cancelled, with no notice. Only trains to Brighton were from Victoria. Except there were none by the time we got there from Blackfriars. Had to go to Gatwick and change from there. I’ve never had an easy journey to Brighton - that Friday night fiasco being the worst - which is a shame because once you get to the ground it’s great.

Any road up, a win’s a win. Let the opposition worry about how we went about it


We stayed in Lewes, drove down the night before. Met a few Villa in a pub whilst watching Wolves capitulate. Only hassle was the journey round the M25 on the way back, still only about 4 hours from queuing at the station by the ground home.

… and met chrisw1’s brother.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 14, 2022, 03:42:40 PM
I did think that when we scored, Carragher's over the top "the Aston Villa players need to look at themselves" probably had a double meaning, the disgusting gobbing Scouse prick.

Is it not comprehendible to spitty  that players would work harder to a system and game plan they believe in

which Carragher should understand - didn't he say as much when comparing Liverpool with dull as fuck tactics under Houllier and Benitez he agreed and thrived with to Erksson dull as fuck tactics which he didn't
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bad English on November 14, 2022, 03:43:19 PM
Jesus wept, TalkSport bringing on Howard Webb

He can fuck of n'all
I have always hated that song Mental Chains.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 14, 2022, 03:43:38 PM
Jesus wept, TalkSport bringing on Howard Webb to talk about our time wasting, the penalty shout and emi martinez antics. Get over it already and talk about Ronaldo or something.


Didn't the ref play 9 minutes added time to compensate for it?


Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 14, 2022, 03:50:32 PM
I did think that when we scored, Carragher's over the top "the Aston Villa players need to look at themselves" probably had a double meaning, the disgusting gobbing Scouse prick.

Carragher was terrible all game. He literally groaned in exasperation with one of Brightons few chances. He also said all through the game, literally the whole game, how much Brightons players were more comfortable on the ball compared to ours!! It was not stop and so bloody obvious. His mate got the tic tac because the whole thing was going to shit, old Carra needs to get over it.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 14, 2022, 03:57:28 PM
I did think that when we scored, Carragher's over the top "the Aston Villa players need to look at themselves" probably had a double meaning, the disgusting gobbing Scouse prick.

Carragher was terrible all game. He literally groaned in exasperation with one of Brightons few chances. He also said all through the game, literally the whole game, how much Brightons players were more comfortable on the ball compared to ours!! It was not stop and so bloody obvious. His mate got the tic tac because the whole thing was going to shit, old Carra needs to get over it.

Well let's see how comfortable Villa players are on the ball come the end of January and compare it to how we are after a year of his Bestie mate in charge.

I put Gerrard alongside Billy McNeill as the most underperforming manager we have had. Not saying 'worst' because that is subjective but massive underperformer.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on November 14, 2022, 04:08:09 PM
Southern Trains!! The sooner we renationalise our railways the better. No trains to Brighton from London Bridge. Trains from Blackfriars all cancelled, with no notice. Only trains to Brighton were from Victoria. Except there were none by the time we got there from Blackfriars. Had to go to Gatwick and change from there. I’ve never had an easy journey to Brighton - that Friday night fiasco being the worst - which is a shame because once you get to the ground it’s great.

Any road up, a win’s a win. Let the opposition worry about how we went about it
I popped into their North Stand forum and it makes some very interesting reading. Apparently some of them hate us more than Leeds and Palace for some reason. The over reaction to the defeat is off the scale. They're even running a thread with the title "Villa win their Cup Final" One poster says "I hate them so much I hope their team bus crashes into a load of their fans onthe way home" Some weapons grade bellends on there making total twats of themselves. No one likes losing but I hope our reaction to losing isn't as ridiculously ott and we keep some kind of rationality about it.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Simon Page on November 14, 2022, 04:16:20 PM
It probably takes the same time for them to get to Villa Park as it does to Selhurst Park, so you can see why they'd regard us as hated rivals. The Leicester of the South: We want someone to hate us, why don't any of you care?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Mister E on November 14, 2022, 04:17:16 PM
Being totally honest, I did think it went a little too far yesterday and we did put ourselves under further pressure with the 8 minutes of added time.  Also picked up some pretty unnecessary bookings in the process.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 14, 2022, 04:24:03 PM
They're probably still bitter that we stopped them from winning their biggest ever trophy. The second division title.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Mister E on November 14, 2022, 04:24:27 PM
Regarding the Digne 'foul' there was a similar incident in the Fulham vs Redmancs game and the ref straightaway waved it on and VAR quickly dismissed it.
Storm in a teacup, is all.

And, as LeeB said above, a team in blue stripes, with Albion in the name and a bunch of bitter fans ...
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 04:24:36 PM
They're probably still bitter that we stopped them from winning their biggest ever trophy. The second division title.

Oh, I'd forgotten about that.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on November 14, 2022, 04:26:41 PM
Southern Trains!! The sooner we renationalise our railways the better. No trains to Brighton from London Bridge. Trains from Blackfriars all cancelled, with no notice. Only trains to Brighton were from Victoria. Except there were none by the time we got there from Blackfriars. Had to go to Gatwick and change from there. I’ve never had an easy journey to Brighton - that Friday night fiasco being the worst - which is a shame because once you get to the ground it’s great.

Any road up, a win’s a win. Let the opposition worry about how we went about it
I popped into their North Stand forum and it makes some very interesting reading. Apparently some of them hate us more than Leeds and Palace for some reason. The over reaction to the defeat is off the scale. They're even running a thread with the title "Villa win their Cup Final" One poster says "I hate them so much I hope their team bus crashes into a load of their fans onthe way home" Some weapons grade bellends on their making total twats of themselves.
It's all a bit Sheffield Wednesday of them.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on November 14, 2022, 04:30:51 PM
Southern Trains!! The sooner we renationalise our railways the better. No trains to Brighton from London Bridge. Trains from Blackfriars all cancelled, with no notice. Only trains to Brighton were from Victoria. Except there were none by the time we got there from Blackfriars. Had to go to Gatwick and change from there. I’ve never had an easy journey to Brighton - that Friday night fiasco being the worst - which is a shame because once you get to the ground it’s great.

Any road up, a win’s a win. Let the opposition worry about how we went about it
I popped into their North Stand forum and it makes some very interesting reading. Apparently some of them hate us more than Leeds and Palace for some reason. The over reaction to the defeat is off the scale. They're even running a thread with the title "Villa win their Cup Final" One poster says "I hate them so much I hope their team bus crashes into a load of their fans onthe way home" Some weapons grade bellends on their making total twats of themselves.
It's all a bit Sheffield Wednesday of them.
Ha ha yes I do remember that one. They had a petition running to have investigation into the officials. Brown envelopes were being talked about.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 14, 2022, 04:35:16 PM
I popped into their North Stand forum and it makes some very interesting reading. Apparently some of them hate us more than Leeds and Palace for some reason. The over reaction to the defeat is off the scale. They're even running a thread with the title "Villa win their Cup Final" One poster says "I hate them so much I hope their team bus crashes into a load of their fans onthe way home" Some weapons grade bellends on there making total twats of themselves. No one likes losing but I hope our reaction to losing isn't as ridiculously ott and we keep some kind of rationality about it.

When your biggest "rivalry" is named after a minor motorway it's never a good look.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on November 14, 2022, 04:57:41 PM
I did think that when we scored, Carragher's over the top "the Aston Villa players need to look at themselves" probably had a double meaning, the disgusting gobbing Scouse prick.

Is it not comprehendible to spitty  that players would work harder to a system and game plan they believe in

Not only that, but a big part of a manager’s job is motivation. All the people who say ‘the players need to look at themselves’ are betraying the fact that their mate was crap at that, as well as every other fucking aspect of football management.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 14, 2022, 05:12:38 PM
I see there’s no mention of the clear hand ball from our first corner. It clearly lands on the defender’s arm and goes out for another corner. Soft it would have been but still a hand ball.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on November 14, 2022, 05:23:24 PM
I see there’s no mention of the clear hand ball from our first corner. It clearly lands on the defender’s arm and goes out for another corner. Soft it would have been but still a hand ball.

He paddles it safely away. Carragher must have been reading the crib notes his mate sent him at that time.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: boutrosboutrosgnarly on November 14, 2022, 05:53:14 PM
They are coming over all Norwich, few years in the top flight and think they're fucking Real Madrid.
Apart from a few thousand (not counting the ones that have jumped on the premier league bandwagon and only go cos they cant get tickets at Old Trafford, Anfield etc..) no one gives a shit about Brighton.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on November 14, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
They are coming over all Norwich, few years in the top flight and think they're fucking Real Madrid.
Apart from a few thousand (not counting the ones that have jumped on the premier league bandwagon and only go cos they cant get tickets at Old Trafford, Anfield etc..) no one gives a shit about Brighton.
Harsh but deserved having looked at their North Stand forum. A couple of reasonable souls in a sea of delusional sometimes downright arse souls.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 14, 2022, 06:10:39 PM
If we'd started looking like this when Gerrard was appointed, would it be because the players hadn't been arsed for Desno? Of course not, it would have been down to Steve Clough-Shankly-Paisley-Ferguson the Wondermanager.

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 14, 2022, 06:14:34 PM
Anyone else see that frankly tragic video of some Brighton fans queuing to watch a game at someone's house, and the owner in her yellow hi-vis gilet frisking them one by one in her front drive?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 14, 2022, 06:20:45 PM
BV, you've got to share that!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 14, 2022, 06:22:40 PM
I know it's only two games, but the collective determination from those on the pitch to make sure they hold on to their hard-won spoils shows how Emery has convinced everybody to buy into his methods. They've all got their minds in the right place now. And it bodes well for the shorter term that as it's not taken long to cultivate this steeliness, it won't necessarily need an age before we can start adding a bit more flamboyance into the mix.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 06:35:07 PM
Anyone else see that frankly tragic video of some Brighton fans queuing to watch a game at someone's house, and the owner in her yellow hi-vis gilet frisking them one by one in her front drive?

Yes, it's the worst thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 14, 2022, 06:39:37 PM
BV, you've got to share that!

I would love to but couldn't find when I looked for it last night. I saw it on a Villa fan's Twitter before the game yesterday but hadn't liked/bookmarked it. It was from a couple of years ago, looks like it's on a summer's day, and is actually worse than it sounds. Was hoping someone here had seen it and could share it.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on November 14, 2022, 06:40:40 PM
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:


https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980 (https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980)
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on November 14, 2022, 06:46:13 PM
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:

Good man, that's the one and I hadn't even seen the Arsenal fan bit till now as I found the first 30 secs so cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on November 14, 2022, 06:58:30 PM
That's absolutely terrible. I laughed, it was that bad.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on November 14, 2022, 07:00:32 PM
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:


https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980 (https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980)
Think they thought it would be funny. But Jesus wept that so cringe
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on November 14, 2022, 07:02:09 PM
I did like what someone said on Twitter about Brighton.

'Your beach is covered in gravel'.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on November 14, 2022, 08:08:32 PM
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:


https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980 (https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980)
Think they thought it would be funny. But Jesus wept that so cringe

Deary me.

Abysmal people.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on November 14, 2022, 08:11:10 PM
I did like what someone said on Twitter about Brighton.

'Your beach is covered in gravel'.

That just made me giggle!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 14, 2022, 08:19:56 PM
I did like what someone said on Twitter about Brighton.

'Your beach is covered in gravel'.

That just made me giggle!


me too , but stoney beaches , what is the point??
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: nigel on November 14, 2022, 08:22:55 PM
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:


https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980 (https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980)
Think they thought it would be funny. But Jesus wept that so cringe

Come on guys, lighten up a bit.

It’s harmless, lighthearted  and quite funny, too
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 14, 2022, 08:30:55 PM
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:


https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980 (https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980)
Think they thought it would be funny. But Jesus wept that so cringe

Come on guys, lighten up a bit.

It’s harmless, lighthearted  and quite funny, too


yep It didn’t make me laugh but no worries seems harmless jinx
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 14, 2022, 10:01:05 PM
They are coming over all Norwich, few years in the top flight and think they're fucking Real Madrid.
Apart from a few thousand (not counting the ones that have jumped on the premier league bandwagon and only go cos they cant get tickets at Old Trafford, Anfield etc..) no one gives a shit about Brighton.

Norwich have sold out for years and attendance to capacity is always high.
Brighton aren't in their league as a club.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rory on November 14, 2022, 10:08:10 PM
On the Digne penalty shout, people are forgetting the “clear and obvious” element of VAR. They will have spoken to the ref, but if the ref tells them “there was contact, but I saw the defender play the ball first” then VAR will not recommend a review.  Because that’s what actually happened, Digne kicked him, but after kicking the ball first.

If you show all the video angles to 100 refs I bet 90 would give a penalty, but it’s not VAR’s job to award penalties, it’s their job to correct ref mistakes - mainly with things they’ve missed. But if the ref saw what actually happened, didn’t miss anything, and chose NOT to award a pen, then the on field decision stands.

I can remember a time when an indirect free kick would be given. This would have been based on the fact that there was no intent to foul. I recall Bruce Rioch scoring from of these at the Holte.

In terms of today's rules, it was likely a penalty.

I know what you mean, but again it's a VAR issue. It is applied with such little consistency that nobody knows what they're actually looking for.

"There was contact..." Well yes, but that isn't automatically a penalty, something commentators and pundits often forget.

I'm no referee, so anybody with more knowledge, of course feel free to correct me, but for me there are a few questions:

Was the Brighton player in control of the ball? No.

Was it intentional? No.

Was it dangerous play? No.

Was there a realistic way for Digne to avoid the contact? For me, no. He was in the middle of trying to clear the ball when the Brighton player threw himself in there, failed to win the ball and caught a piece of the movement that Digne had already biomechanically initiated and committed to.

It was a coming-together (Kenneth Williams meme), nothing more.
Biomechanically initiated!! Oooooohhh someone's swallowed a dictionary  ;)

Yeah it does sound like something the Terminator would say. Sorry about that!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Hillbilly on November 14, 2022, 10:39:52 PM
He has detailed files on human anatomy. It makes him a more efficient Villa.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: eamonn on November 15, 2022, 01:00:57 AM
I was thinking of moving to Brighton but now you lot are making me doubt myself.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 15, 2022, 01:10:40 AM
10 years ago they were getting 7,000. They have no fans, they're just coastal Tarquins looking to watch a bit of football whilst it's fashionable. They're about as passionate as Jim Royal is about his missus. Whopper club and that's why they think a 50/50 was a brutal assualt that deserves a penalty. They've actually averaged 2,000 odd before, I could get that amount of people round my house to watch the neighbours have a row. I didn't realise what a fucking total tin pot part time hobby of a club they were.

They can fuck off and get shit housed by us all day and all night until they get relegated back to the 4th division and bus stop attendances again.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 15, 2022, 01:16:17 AM
I've got no problem with Brighton, if it was the other way round we would probably be moaning. As one of only, perhaps, two teams in the league who might consider us a bogey side, they seem nice enough to me. Rubbish videos not withstanding.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2022, 02:30:40 AM
I've usually a lot of time for Brighton. What happened with their owners, especially with the Goldstone ground, was disgraceful. It's a minor miracle the club survived. I'm not gonna knock a club pulling 2k when they were in division 4, playing 'home' games 70 miles away in Gillingham and the future of the club looked in doubt. Problem is, with the move to the new ground, and especially getting into the PL, they've got a raft of new fans turning up to games. And new fans are usually twats.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: sid1964 on November 15, 2022, 06:19:05 AM
I thought the video was funny - they were obviously members of the ladies family

it was a lovely summers day in Brighton when the video was taken and it must have been for a match after Covid restart?

Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 15, 2022, 06:47:06 AM
I've usually a lot of time for Brighton. What happened with their owners, especially with the Goldstone ground, was disgraceful. It's a minor miracle the club survived. I'm not gonna knock a club pulling 2k when they were in division 4, playing 'home' games 70 miles away in Gillingham and the future of the club looked in doubt. Problem is, with the move to the new ground, and especially getting into the PL, they've got a raft of new fans turning up to games. And new fans are usually twats.

New fans who have no doubt Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea replica shirts in the back of the wardrobe.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Monty on November 15, 2022, 08:08:07 AM
Found it. Put it in spoliers in case of offence:


https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980 (https://twitter.com/SamuelMargo/status/1274383892817022980)
Think they thought it would be funny. But Jesus wept that so cringe

Don't want to be too mean as there are kids involved, but...golly. 'What are you dressing up as this year?' 'Well we're going as a family, as the proles'.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on November 15, 2022, 08:30:40 AM
I've got no problem with Brighton, if it was the other way round we would probably be moaning. As one of only, perhaps, two teams in the league who might consider us a bogey side, they seem nice enough to me. Rubbish videos not withstanding.

The last time I was home was four years ago, I saw the 5-5 against Forest, it was on my birthday.  As a gift from my daughter we did the guided tour of Villa Park.  Part of the group contained a young couple who were Brighton fans, the lad was a steward down there.  They were amazed by the size and facilities of VP and were very complimentary about us (Villa) and said what Brighton had could not compare.  I liked them.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rory on November 15, 2022, 08:51:38 AM
He has detailed files on human anatomy. It makes him a more efficient Villa.

Superb.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Goldenballs on November 15, 2022, 06:25:34 PM
Some clown who's written the report in the Daily Mail (don't worry, I didn't buy it) reckons that McGinn shouldn't have been a pen.

"before falling over the sliding tackle of Dunk, he was already going over"
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on November 16, 2022, 01:25:55 PM
It was nice to get an ugly win. You get the impression that we might not be such a pushover under Emery. The table looks better before the break & we get time to have the manager work the players into his system. As for the game controversy’s, the penalty was as much as a penalty as the 2-1 loss we had against them in 2020. Either way, it evened itself out. And after all, isn’t that we get told after every incorrect decision? Charrager having a whinge about time wasting & the penalty incident was amusing. It’s almost as if he was upset that his mate had just been rightfully sacked… But it is typical of the media in the country. Too many agendas because their mates are in the job. The fact that he slated us for time wasting, despite the fact that he used to do it himself as a player, & when Liverpool do it it’s called “game management”, shows that the media do not respect us. Which would make it all the sweeter if we do manage to get to the place the owners ambition is aimed at.

Some clown who's written the report in the Daily Mail (don't worry, I didn't buy it) reckons that McGinn shouldn't have been a pen.

"before falling over the sliding tackle of Dunk, he was already going over"
Standard media reaction to Villa. I had a bit of a bust up with Keith Hackett who is doing articles for a basement blog site & his anti Villa prejudice based purely on the snobbery that we are not London, Manchester, Newcastle or Liverpool was clear to see in his reactions to what I wrote. As was his petty vindictiveness when challenged over his errors. I despised him as an official . I despise him even more as a “pundit”.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 16, 2022, 01:36:24 PM
I thought the video was funny - they were obviously members of the ladies family

it was a lovely summers day in Brighton when the video was taken and it must have been for a match after Covid restart?

Some of you might think this is light hearted tomfoolery but you are all quite wrong, its tantamount to a war crime. I hope her neighbours have 365 consecutive firework displays.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 21, 2022, 06:12:52 PM
Like others have mentioned, I liked the analysis of our performance from the two Jermaines. I presume we only got this much attention because there were only two main games on the show.

I haven't seen the handball incident where we should have had another penalty, but I did spot on the left-side run that Danny made in the first-half that he had his shirt pulled by a home defender well inside the box, the move where he tried to square the ball to McGinn. So, if Brighton fans want to whinge about penalties and VAR, we can join 'em!
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