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Offline curiousorange

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2022, 10:28:17 PM »
Surely Emery has the ability to watch our previous matches? I'm with PWS, play a proper team tonight and we win that. He brings in Olsen, Chambers, Augustinsson, McGinn and Ings and they were all utterly abysmal.

I’m sure he has watched them but he needs to know if they can play under him with his tactics and coaching. We’d have no squad left if he’d watched them under Gerrard.
The truth is, we’ve made some terrible signings yet again and he’s got to pick up a squad lacking in depth, quality and with the mental scars of 12 horrendous months. It’s a massive job.

Plus he's been here a week, played the same opponent (who were/are in decent nick despite us making them look bang average) and we break for six weeks this coming Sunday. It's slightly early to be moving towards 'jury's out for me, Clive,' territory

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2022, 10:30:44 PM »
They were there for the taking again which is the most disappointing thing.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2022, 10:30:50 PM »
Pretty poor - hopefully a lesson learned.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2022, 10:32:00 PM »
We play some decent stuff until we go behind and then it's a massive collective dropping of heads. We yet again had nothing as soon as they took the lead, it's like we feel sorry for ourselves. That mentality has to change.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2022, 10:32:01 PM »
Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking.

That’s a bit harsh. He did say he wanted to win a cup, but he’s here for over 4 years and there’s a reason why he’s got such a long contract. There’s no way anyone is taking us from where we were/are to cup winners and mid table in 6 months.
This squad is not good enough, nowhere near it. Let’s let him work his magic and build us into a decent team.

That doesn't mean we should turn our noses up at winning something just because we're "waiting until we're ready"  Football doesn't work like that.  Sorry, but he's let us down tonight.

Offline nick harper

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2022, 10:32:18 PM »
Tough on Mings to come into the game at the point United were upping the pace and Rashford moved into the middle, but he looked casual and unfocused.

Emery needs to install some composure and resilience into the side. We really go to pieces away from home when under pressure. We are still far too vulnerable after scoring - 19 seconds after our first goal is ridiculous.

I have to watch us play it around at the back through my fingers. I am sure he will target better ball playing centre halves as a priority.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2022, 10:32:22 PM »
I think Olsen shook the confidence of all the defence - and dinge was brilliant at this weekend, and the stand in leftback is just not good enough. 

As others said Kamara dead after an hour.   

McGinn and Ings are I just don't see how they fit into our future.

We got too drawn into a basketball match with them I think. 

Waiting to be gutted at seeing the soft draw they get now

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #82 on: November 10, 2022, 10:32:32 PM »
Olsen, bye. By tonight preferred
McGinn, shot to pieces.
Left back loanee, bye.
Mings, not too sure tonight was best night to play him after WC squad announced,
Ings, no longer prem standard, bye.
Watkins, just fuck off. Bailey must have been livid at that divot. Chance to go 3-2 up, he does that and Man utd score in less than a minute
Lots of work required and would be overjoyed with 45 points this year.



Offline Allan C

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2022, 10:32:47 PM »
Gutted, at 2-1 I thought we’d hold on. Ridiculous goal to make it 3-2 and we were never coming back. Emery now knows what’s required, which players need moving on, which players to build a squad around. Not many on there tonight will make the cut

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2022, 10:33:06 PM »
Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking. 

Spot on! At least Manchester's closer than Moscow.

It's his 2nd game in charge FFS . I think we are all disappointed , but l'd like to think we'd  give him more than 2 games before we bury him.

Nobody's burying him, but it was obvious from the start that that line up was a load of shite. Anybody from here could have told him for free how shit Olsen is. Every other player who came in tonight, ie Olsen, Chambers, McGinn, Augustinsson and Ings were completely rubbish. It's one of the worst "shaking up" of a side I've seen. He's got one more match then a month off, just play the players who played well at the weekend, it's not rocket science. There's a whole bloody month to work with the other players and arrange friendlies etc.

 He needs to see it for himself though. Olsen we all know isn't a solid backup . McGinn might flourish under a new manager ( I doubt it personally ) . I'm pissed off we've missed out on a golden opportunity , but trust Emery  to take us forward.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2022, 10:34:24 PM »
If anyone thinks we aren't going to go through games like this over the next 12 months then they are rather naive. The big difference is that after 12 months and heavy investment we hadn't made any progress under the previous manager, he wasn't called out straight away and neither should the new boss.

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2022, 10:35:17 PM »
It is important that Emery saw what we had in the locker in a competitive match before the World Cup break and the transfer window. What he learnt tonight will prove more valuable in the long term than progressing in a cup that Man City will probably win again.

The next two transfer windows should be very busy.

Patience, tis a virtue.   

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2022, 10:35:59 PM »
Dendoncker was cup tied, so that was an enforced change, and sticking Ash in for Cash would have been fair enough. But Olsen for Martinez? Absolutely no need for that whatsoever, it was stupid and has cost us the match.

Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2022, 10:36:26 PM »
Only one person to blame for that tonight and that's Emery.  Said he wanted to win a trophy, yet blatantly surrenders his first opportunity to do so with an utterly ridiculous team selection against a United side there for the taking.

That’s a bit harsh. He did say he wanted to win a cup, but he’s here for over 4 years and there’s a reason why he’s got such a long contract. There’s no way anyone is taking us from where we were/are to cup winners and mid table in 6 months.
This squad is not good enough, nowhere near it. Let’s let him work his magic and build us into a decent team.

That doesn't mean we should turn our noses up at winning something just because we're "waiting until we're ready"  Football doesn't work like that.  Sorry, but he's let us down tonight.

Ridiculous comments. If he’d played a full strength team and we pick up injuries today or Sunday and/or get beaten Sunday because the team is nackered you’d probably jump to hyperbole then too and say he’s let us down.
Were United there for the taking. Yes. Are we disappointed we didn’t do that. Yes. But to say Emery has let us down is a touch over the top

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Re: Manchester United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2022, 10:37:01 PM »
Surely Emery has the ability to watch our previous matches? I'm with PWS, play a proper team tonight and we win that. He brings in Olsen, Chambers, Augustinsson, McGinn and Ings and they were all utterly abysmal.

I’m sure he has watched them but he needs to know if they can play under him with his tactics and coaching. We’d have no squad left if he’d watched them under Gerrard.
The truth is, we’ve made some terrible signings yet again and he’s got to pick up a squad lacking in depth, quality and with the mental scars of 12 horrendous months. It’s a massive job.

Plus he's been here a week, played the same opponent (who were/are in decent nick despite us making them look bang average) and we break for six weeks this coming Sunday. It's slightly early to be moving towards 'jury's out for me, Clive,' territory

5 goals in 2 games agianst a team that that had conceded 2 in the previous 8. Our defence was poor in the 2nd half tonight, in no small part because Olsen was both poor and, crucially, wasn't doing the 'sweeper keeper' bit that Martinez did on Sunday. Once they realised they didn't need to race him to the long balls through they gave themselves an extra yard or 2 and used their pace to turn us around. Lesson learned, we can't play a high line with Olsen in, if he gets another chance.

 


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