Quote from: pauliewalnuts on July 22, 2023, 07:44:34 PMQuote from: Risso on July 22, 2023, 07:26:38 PMWell, so far the whole thing seems to have been binned off on the say so of Heck after 5 minutes in the job. He’d better come up with something decent next year…But the club then made this is bit stupid by pretending it was about honouring (yawn) 1982 (obviously, on that landmark 41st anniversary) and yada yadaing about it. That's bad enough but to hear fans buying into this retrospective rubbish pisses me off.I do wonder if they believe or have been told that though - that the fans want a return to that badge as it is the one we had when we won the league and European Cup? If that is the case, then I could see why they might not like that, as it represents looking back to the past. Personally, I don't think that is the case and although there might be some nostalgia around the round badge (I've never really linked it specifically with 1982), I just think it is a better design than the ones that have followed it.
Quote from: Risso on July 22, 2023, 07:26:38 PMWell, so far the whole thing seems to have been binned off on the say so of Heck after 5 minutes in the job. He’d better come up with something decent next year…But the club then made this is bit stupid by pretending it was about honouring (yawn) 1982 (obviously, on that landmark 41st anniversary) and yada yadaing about it. That's bad enough but to hear fans buying into this retrospective rubbish pisses me off.
Well, so far the whole thing seems to have been binned off on the say so of Heck after 5 minutes in the job. He’d better come up with something decent next year…
What professional football club has a 'one off' badge for one season. I'm not talking about Liverpool for instance who use the bird and LFC and that looks classy and consistent but this is two crests with a lion backing off from each other. It's amateur crap and belongs at a Sunday league pub team not an historic, elite outfitWhy do we have to have ridiculous "part of the pride" "fight like lions" stuff too? It's embarrassing
Start again, iterate further, expand upon, whatever phrasing you want to use it all comes down to Purslow left, Heck arrived and we stopped the rollout of a new badge halfway through production.We don't know what his reasoning is, and won't get any more clues until the new branding is presented for consultation (as is required by the league).Again you skipping around the point I'm making though, given that has happened (whether you like it or not) would you prefer:We carry on with the rebrand anyway.We completely abandon the rebrand and delay the kit launch, etc to have everything reverted to the old brand.We spin some nonsense to justify a different branding on the kit and some limited merchandise that was already produced but stop on everything else.They're the options we had, nothing else. I'm fed up of people moaning about the 'brand identity' and fan vote because they ignore the reality that the bottom option of those 3 is quite clearly the least bad in the short and long-term.
Quote from: tomd2103 on July 23, 2023, 12:19:05 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on July 22, 2023, 07:44:34 PMQuote from: Risso on July 22, 2023, 07:26:38 PMWell, so far the whole thing seems to have been binned off on the say so of Heck after 5 minutes in the job. He’d better come up with something decent next year…But the club then made this is bit stupid by pretending it was about honouring (yawn) 1982 (obviously, on that landmark 41st anniversary) and yada yadaing about it. That's bad enough but to hear fans buying into this retrospective rubbish pisses me off.I do wonder if they believe or have been told that though - that the fans want a return to that badge as it is the one we had when we won the league and European Cup? If that is the case, then I could see why they might not like that, as it represents looking back to the past. Personally, I don't think that is the case and although there might be some nostalgia around the round badge (I've never really linked it specifically with 1982), I just think it is a better design than the ones that have followed it. Yeah but for one year only?
Quote from: Risso on July 22, 2023, 07:00:19 PMSir David Reginald Woodhall MA (Cantab) is correct, a Premier League rules says that clubs have to consult the fans if they’re considering changing anything to do with a club’s ‘heritage’ like the club name, badge or colours etc. Presumably this came in after a variety of wrong ‘uns tried to change Cardiff’s colours from blue to red, and Hull City’s name etc. What I can’t see is that if there’s any punishment for not consulting, or what form the consultation has to take. As Dave has alluded to, the consultation process is very easily manipulated in any case.Our consultation process was nominated for a Premier League consultation award. I kid you not.
Sir David Reginald Woodhall MA (Cantab) is correct, a Premier League rules says that clubs have to consult the fans if they’re considering changing anything to do with a club’s ‘heritage’ like the club name, badge or colours etc. Presumably this came in after a variety of wrong ‘uns tried to change Cardiff’s colours from blue to red, and Hull City’s name etc. What I can’t see is that if there’s any punishment for not consulting, or what form the consultation has to take. As Dave has alluded to, the consultation process is very easily manipulated in any case.
On the video where they released Diaby transfer, the opening image was the standalone lion facing left. The video also closed with that image and I wonder if that's where the club thinking is heading.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 22, 2023, 07:26:12 PMQuote from: Risso on July 22, 2023, 07:00:19 PMSir David Reginald Woodhall MA (Cantab) is correct, a Premier League rules says that clubs have to consult the fans if they’re considering changing anything to do with a club’s ‘heritage’ like the club name, badge or colours etc. Presumably this came in after a variety of wrong ‘uns tried to change Cardiff’s colours from blue to red, and Hull City’s name etc. What I can’t see is that if there’s any punishment for not consulting, or what form the consultation has to take. As Dave has alluded to, the consultation process is very easily manipulated in any case.Our consultation process was nominated for a Premier League consultation award. I kid you not. I hope they kept the receipt! Presumably they’ll be forced to ‘consult’ again? It’ll be interesting to see how they spin that. “Well, we consulted you last time, and you chose the new badge, but we don’t like it, so we’re asking you to consult again until you pick something that Heck likes.”
We've got about 900 different lions , facing all over the place in different colours. It's an absolute mess and I feel sorry for those fans who buy merchandise unsure of what to buy