Chelsea's ground is still traditional and fantastic (in my opinion) and no bigger that VP. Anything soulless about their success has nothing to do with Stamford Bridge.
Is there any decent in-depth article about Liverpool's displacement of their neighbours that covers the whole story? I don't remember it generating much noise in the news...maybe cos it happened gradually ?
Quote from: chrisw1 on January 14, 2022, 12:36:34 PMChelsea's ground is still traditional and fantastic (in my opinion) and no bigger that VP. Anything soulless about their success has nothing to do with Stamford Bridge.Was about to mention this - them keeping their original, 40k-ish ground while upgrading the bits around the edges (on a piece of land just as small as VP) hasn't really held them back from winning things regularly, has it?
Quote from: Keeno on January 14, 2022, 01:02:56 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on January 14, 2022, 12:36:34 PMChelsea's ground is still traditional and fantastic (in my opinion) and no bigger that VP. Anything soulless about their success has nothing to do with Stamford Bridge.Was about to mention this - them keeping their original, 40k-ish ground while upgrading the bits around the edges (on a piece of land just as small as VP) hasn't really held them back from winning things regularly, has it? the difference in their ticket prices compared to ours is fucking huge though so I'm not sure they work all that well as an example.
Quote from: Villan82 on January 13, 2022, 06:20:15 PMCopy the Holte at the Witton End as has been suggested on here a few times. You probably could get 14-15k with that design at that end.That gets you up to around 48-50k. I think that would do for the moment.Is it feasible to do that over a season though and reduce the capacity so significantly? Just think the Alexander Stadium development for the Commonwealth Games might just present a unique opportunity for an alternative venue while work on VP was done.
Copy the Holte at the Witton End as has been suggested on here a few times. You probably could get 14-15k with that design at that end.That gets you up to around 48-50k. I think that would do for the moment.
The issue then is how do we get Villa Park significantly beyond 50k. Even disregarding the transport issues, I don't see how we realistically can, given the constraints of the site. I referred to what Liverpool have done to Anfield to get it up to 62k in another post. What that doesn't say is the absolutely shitty, scandalous treatment of their neighbours that the club indulged in over the past 20 years to get to the stage where the redevelopment of their main stand was possible. I'd rather Villa didn't contribute to the degradation of an entire neighbourhood and forcing people out of their homes just so we can add 10,000 seats.
Quote from: paul_e on January 14, 2022, 01:19:38 PMQuote from: Keeno on January 14, 2022, 01:02:56 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on January 14, 2022, 12:36:34 PMChelsea's ground is still traditional and fantastic (in my opinion) and no bigger that VP. Anything soulless about their success has nothing to do with Stamford Bridge.Was about to mention this - them keeping their original, 40k-ish ground while upgrading the bits around the edges (on a piece of land just as small as VP) hasn't really held them back from winning things regularly, has it? the difference in their ticket prices compared to ours is fucking huge though so I'm not sure they work all that well as an example.Gate revenue is not where PL clubs make any of their money nowadays though, so it certainly wouldn't be a thing holding back stadium redevelopment for us in comparison to them. I think the point is more that a traditional style 40-50k capacity ground is still suitable for champions league/PL winning clubs - so there's no need for us to feel like we'd need to build a run of the mill Etihad bowl in order to feel part of that group.
Quote from: Pat Mustard on January 14, 2022, 01:11:45 PMThe issue then is how do we get Villa Park significantly beyond 50k. Even disregarding the transport issues, I don't see how we realistically can, given the constraints of the site. I referred to what Liverpool have done to Anfield to get it up to 62k in another post. What that doesn't say is the absolutely shitty, scandalous treatment of their neighbours that the club indulged in over the past 20 years to get to the stage where the redevelopment of their main stand was possible. I'd rather Villa didn't contribute to the degradation of an entire neighbourhood and forcing people out of their homes just so we can add 10,000 seats.Witton Lane becomes an underpass.
Quote from: Brend'Watkins on January 14, 2022, 02:50:04 PMQuote from: Pat Mustard on January 14, 2022, 01:11:45 PMThe issue then is how do we get Villa Park significantly beyond 50k. Even disregarding the transport issues, I don't see how we realistically can, given the constraints of the site. I referred to what Liverpool have done to Anfield to get it up to 62k in another post. What that doesn't say is the absolutely shitty, scandalous treatment of their neighbours that the club indulged in over the past 20 years to get to the stage where the redevelopment of their main stand was possible. I'd rather Villa didn't contribute to the degradation of an entire neighbourhood and forcing people out of their homes just so we can add 10,000 seats.Witton Lane becomes an underpass. Unless we can build a see-through stand that still won't work.