Plucky Naive Aston Villa 1-3 Penalty United post match thread

[nick harper]

Ref watch just covered all three incidents.  Luiz - penalty. Oli - no dive and no yellow card.  Not that that will help us.  Greenwood - no penalty because he was too close.  I think that's bollocks because it gives defenders license to go up with arms in the air in a close challenge and then argue they couldn't move their arms out of the way.  For me his arm shouldn't have been there and I am 100% convinced that would have been a pen to them

Agree, that’s a crap argument for not giving the handball. It gives licence to using your arms above your head close up to an opponent's - like volleyball. I don’t see any reasonable excuse for an arm being up there.

[paul_e]

Ref watch just covered all three incidents.  Luiz - penalty. Oli - no dive and no yellow card.  Not that that will help us.  Greenwood - no penalty because he was too close.  I think that's bollocks because it gives defenders license to go up with arms in the air in a close challenge and then argue they couldn't move their arms out of the way.  For me his arm shouldn't have been there and I am 100% convinced that would have been a pen to them

Agree, that’s a crap argument for not giving the handball. It gives licence to using your arms above your head close up to an opponent's - like volleyball. I don’t see any reasonable excuse for an arm being up there.

I've played a lot of rugby and how he jumped is exactly how you charge down a kick, make yourself big and hope you get some contact, the idea that his arm wasn't there deliberately is laughable and shows the officials lack the basic understanding to make important decisions, The Watkins penalty incident adds to that as well.

[Hookeysmith]

They've offered him (Cavani) £2.5 million extra a year on top of already mental wages £200k a week. 

I don't think we're quite in that market yet.

How does a team that Owes a Billion dollars to the Glazer family allowed to make signings of this magnitude?

I thought FFP was meant to st...................oh

[Richard E]

While we are on the subject of rubbish refereeing, I didn't think Ollie's first yellow was right, either.

[Hookeysmith]

Fernandes style penalties should be banned.

Just for looking like a rat faced little cnut as well as a right fucking girl

[SoccerHQ]

Ref watch just covered all three incidents.  Luiz - penalty. Oli - no dive and no yellow card.  Not that that will help us.  Greenwood - no penalty because he was too close.  I think that's bollocks because it gives defenders license to go up with arms in the air in a close challenge and then argue they couldn't move their arms out of the way.  For me his arm shouldn't have been there and I am 100% convinced that would have been a pen to them

Agree, that’s a crap argument for not giving the handball. It gives licence to using your arms above your head close up to an opponent's - like volleyball. I don’t see any reasonable excuse for an arm being up there.

Greenwood was no different to the Cash handball v Man. City. Similar distance and speed.

They just make it up as they go along. IMO the long time delay didn't help either as seems incidents can just be forgotten about if the ball dosen't go out of play for a long time.

[itmustbe_it is!]

That's down to us not being savvy enough to put the ball out of play and get round the referee like they would have done

[aj2k77]

They're cheats and refs polish their boots with their tongues. Let's just move on from our annual screw job from these fucking Disney FC muppets.

[DevonSteve]

Agree with Richard E, I didn't think Ollie's  first yellow was deserved. He slid in and just caught Mc Guire's foot with his trailing knee. It wasn't malicious , a free kick would have sufficed. I think that showed what was to come.
I do wonder if the ref travelled down from Manchester on the United team bus.

[malckennedy]

While we are on the subject of rubbish refereeing, I didn't think Ollie's first yellow was right, either.

Particularly as it was our second foul of the half and they had committed 12 at that stage, including several bad ones from Pogba and McTominay

[paul_e]

Yep, agreed here as well, it wasn't the worst foul in the first half and the numbers meant they should've had 2-3 in the book by half time, even when we were leading it was setting a precedent that he wasn't going to ref the game equally.

A yellow card has to be reckless and just because Watkins went off his feet doesn't mean it meets that, the Pogba follow through on Bert was far more dangerous.

[dcdavecollett]

Prize Pratt of the Week award goes to Villa legend Jenas who actually went out of his way to PRAISE the ref for sending Ollie off as, "This is the sort of thing we want to see removed from the game."

What a ****!

Oh and the Greenwood handball wasn't even worth talking about apparently...

I'd expect this sort of one-eyed crap on MUTV, but I'd always supposed that MotD was, unlike Sunday's ref, was meant to be neutral in its outlook?

[Scratchins]