Plucky Naive Aston Villa 1-3 Penalty United post match thread

[itmustbe_it is!]

It’s unbelievable how games against them follow the same pattern.

And I have no doubt, that if the ball had gone out within five seconds of the handball he would have been sent to the monitor. Arm in the air and away from the body, it’s a handball. We are too naive and nice and have been for years. We have to change our mindset.

We need a legitimate, ruthless leader.

Edit: It's usually just McGinn that throws his palms up to protest. Traore, El Ghazi, Ollie, etc never so much as raise their voice.

Imagine how Peter Withe would have reacted

[brontebilly]

Dean Smith saying that the penalty decision for foul on Pogba was 'pathetic'. There were a number of things in this game to question but not that. Hope instead he and the coaches have a word with Luiz.

Stonewall penalty...defending Luiz is pathetic. He had done the hard part too, got back goal side of Pogba and turned him away from goal.

[villadelph]

Dean Smith saying that the penalty decision for foul on Pogba was 'pathetic'. There were a number of things in this game to question but not that. Hope instead he and the coaches have a word with Luiz.

Stonewall penalty...defending Luiz is pathetic. He had done the hard part too, got back goal side of Pogba and turned him away from goal.

Pogba new exactly what he was doing. Facing away from goal, baiting the contact - it was pathetic. Albeit, a penalty.

[SoccerHQ]

I bet that's the complete opposite of what DS has said in the dressing room.

Him taking off Luiz 10 minutes later said it all.

[manic-road]

I didn't see Ollie even appealing for anything, if he had of taken a dive with no contact and appealed for a pen then fair enough but it looked like the keeper caught his knee and Ollie didn't even appeal so how can it be deemed as a dive?

[olaftab]

I long for the day when we have a team good enough to twat these ******. That's one of the reason I like what's happened at man city. Despite their dirty money at least they have turned around a similar situation to us and now regularly smack these fuckers. Long may it stay that way and sooner we can start doing that the better  this world will be.

[andyh]

Luiz fucked up, mings made his usual fuck up, but I bet the ref gets the blame on here.

What’s that smell?

[nick harper]

Dean Smith saying that the penalty decision for foul on Pogba was 'pathetic'. There were a number of things in this game to question but not that. Hope instead he and the coaches have a word with Luiz.

Stonewall penalty...defending Luiz is pathetic. He had done the hard part too, got back goal side of Pogba and turned him away from goal.

Pogba new exactly what he was doing. Facing away from goal, baiting the contact - it was pathetic. Albeit, a penalty.

Yes, Smith should have been directing his ire towards the other end of the pitch. Konsa  and Cash were both giving Luiz stick. He made it it far too easy for Pogba to go down.

[ez]

Usually I see accusations of biased refereering as being from bad losers but it happens too often against these for there not to be something in it.

[cdbearsfan]

Luiz fucked up, mings made his usual fuck up, but I bet the ref gets the blame on here.

You were trying to claim that the handball wasn't a penalty in the match thread. Safe to say you're just on the windup.

[steamer]

I didn't see Ollie even appealing for anything, if he had of taken a dive with no contact and appealed for a pen then fair enough but it looked like the keeper caught his knee and Ollie didn't even appeal so how can it be deemed as a dive?

Same as Grealish when goal not Given at C.Palace despite him not appealing
Sure club will challenge the 2nd yellow

[paul_e]

I didn't see Ollie even appealing for anything, if he had of taken a dive with no contact and appealed for a pen then fair enough but it looked like the keeper caught his knee and Ollie didn't even appeal so how can it be deemed as a dive?

We're the team that had a goal disallowed because Grealish passed as he was being tackled and he'd therefore dived.
We're the team that had rodri come back from 20 yards offside to tackle our defender and score and they twisted the rules to allow it to stand.
We're the only team to be convicted of tapping up a player they didn't sign.

I've given up expecting rules to be applied sensibly where we're concerned.

[N'ZMAV]

I didn't see Ollie even appealing for anything, if he had of taken a dive with no contact and appealed for a pen then fair enough but it looked like the keeper caught his knee and Ollie didn't even appeal so how can it be deemed as a dive?

Same as Grealish when goal not Given at C.Palace despite him not appealing
Sure club will challenge the 2nd yellow

you cannot appeal a yellow card

[Sexual Ealing]

I long for the day when we have a team good enough to twat these ******. That's one of the reason I like what's happened at man city. Despite their dirty money at least they have turned around a similar situation to us and now regularly smack these fuckers. Long may it stay that way and sooner we can start doing that the better  this world will be.

This this this.

[Mister E]

Luiz had a great game, until the brainless challenge on a man with form for penalty-winning.
McGinn played very well, as did the back four; for most of the match. I thought Mings was a little naive for their second, and Targett failed to close down Rashfood for their third.
I thought Barkley played okay for the first half but was pretty anonymous in the second.
The whole team seemed to tire for the last 15 minutes.

What I learned from that game was that (i) we need to have a squad that we can rotate more, next season; (ii) playing two wingers who are unable to cover back is leaving us too open without the ball; (iii) we couldn't deal with a team that ran at us in the second half.

I've said before, I'd prefer to use players like Traore and AEG as impact subs and to start with a 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 line-up using dynamic, energetic and skilful fullbacks and midfielders to provide width as required.