Plucky Naive Aston Villa 1-3 Penalty United post match thread

[Smithy]

For anyone who still thinks Ollie wasn't touched.  Absolutely outrageous decision.  I think Smith will be fuming when he sees there was clear contact, and on video.

https://twitter.com/Smithinks/status/1391414075356286984

[TonyD]

It had to happen eventually, but Thursday night we get to see the current Villa side without Watkins. Not a great prospect.

But with Jack ... possibly.

With Europe effectively gone today - I would rest Jack for the rest of the season.

[ChicagoLion]

Luiz should know by now that tackling inside your own penalty area was outlawed years ago.

It was really fucking stupid and unnecessary.

[Axl Rose]

A largely unenjoyable game. Massively loathe those red fucks.

[Smithy]

No contact, no pen, clear dive, send him off. Outrageous.

[Ads]

No contact, no pen, clear dive, send him off. Outrageous.

It's OK. Henderson was pulling out the challenge. If you check the rules under s.4, it clearly states "penalty, unless its Man United in which case they can do what the fuck they want".

[SoccerHQ]

Will be interested to see how we line up on Thursday. If it goes badly (against a team we dominated a week ago) then I wouldn't say it's a good thing in the long run as expecting Ollie to play every minute of every game next season aswell is a bit complacent.

Complacent? He wa the only fit striker we had for most of the season?!?

I expected us to sign another striker last summer after the Wilson move fell through so that's the complacency I'm talking about.

Brilliant Ollie's been available for every game so far up to Thursday but he won't be for Everton so we'll see what's going on against a team we played very well against all of 8 days ago.

I don't really want to go into a situation next season where Watkins gets a Grealish type 2-3 month injury and we just have this type of back up available.

[villadelph]

I thought their savior CR7 created the precedent that there doesn’t necessarily have to be contact to impede a player, resulting in a foul.

Am I wrong?

[Percy McCarthy]

Regarding the first XI,

 To be top four keep

Play Martinez, McGinn higher up and Grealish. The Rest on the bench

To be top 8:

 Play Martinez , Konsa, Targett, Mcginn, Grealish, Watkins

The rest rest on the bench

The back 5 plus Grealish and Watkins are good enough to be in a team challenging for top 4 IMO. If we had 3 more players in the first XI that actually posed more problems for other teams than Bert, El Ghazi and Barkley the defence would be under a lot less pressure.

Add a couple of really good central midfielders and we’re in business.

[NorthYvillan]

No contact, no pen, clear dive, send him off. Outrageous.

It's OK. Henderson was pulling out the challenge. If you check the rules under s.4, it clearly states "penalty, unless its Man United in which case they can do what the fuck they want".

Ollie obviously saw this coming and got his legs off the ground to avoid a potential ruptured ACL

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Just when I thought I couldn't hate them any more than I already do they go on to demonstrate why they have the owners they deserve.

[CT]

I know I’ve said it before, but why aren’t we surrounding the ref?

Why aren’t we trying to influence him? We just meekly accepted it. Just like the handball.

If that had been them, the outcome would be completely different.

That was staggeringly corrupt from Chris Kavanagh, all day. How many fouls before they got a card? We got the first talking to, and then later the first yellow.

Smith should be fucking fuming. That’s every bit as bad as Kevin Friend.

[Nev]

Putting the result to one side...
.....it's fucking cheating.
Fuck them and the ref, fucking wankers.
It was cheating under that whiskey faced ****** as well, not Fergie Time. Bottling mandatory yellows and ignoring handballs.

Fuck the absolute lot of 'em.

[ChicagoLion]

I know I’ve said it before, but why aren’t we surrounding the ref?

Why aren’t we trying to influence him? We just meekly accepted it. Just like the handball.

If that had been them, the outcome would be completely different.

That was staggeringly corrupt from Chris Kavanagh, all day. How many fouls before they got a card? We got the first talking to, and then later the first yellow.

Smith should be fucking fuming. That’s every bit as bad as Kevin Friend.

agree, we are just too nice, we never complain never demonstrate.

[paul_e]

No contact, no pen, clear dive, send him off. Outrageous.

What I don't get is how that is a yellow card and a dive but the 2 Pogba has bought from Luiz and Fernandes ones were all given as penalties. I'm not blaming the ref for the result but the amount of Villa fans who will accept a ref like today frustrates the fuck out of me. There were 3 penalty shouts today and for me all 3 should've been given, I also think he needed to have some balls and book them for professional fouls in the first half.