Villa Park Redevelopment

[cdbearsfan]

I'd imagine the council will just relent and give them what they want and they'll stay where they are.

[LeeS]

I'd imagine the council will just relent and give them what they want and they'll stay where they are.

This seems the most likely outcome

[Hopadop]

Daily Telegraph Obituary - an amazing life

Just incredible. PG Wodehouse meets Alistair MacLean.

[Hopadop]

I'd imagine the council will just relent and give them what they want and they'll stay where they are.

This seems the most likely outcome

You'd expect so. There was an awful lot of demands, counter demands and brinkmanship between Spurs and Haringey council. I recall the club threatened to move to the Olympic stadium at one point.  I don't know how serious they were but I don't think their Herts/Essex supporters were too bothered.

I suppose the caveat would be that Haringey and Richmond are very different areas. Losing Spurs would be a massive blow to Tottenham. I'm not sure Richmond council would feel as desperate to keep the Twickenham stadium?

[AV82EC]

I'd imagine the council will just relent and give them what they want and they'll stay where they are.

This seems the most likely outcome

I’m not so sure, beware the ire of a bunch of Liberal Democrat nimbys.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'd imagine the council will just relent and give them what they want and they'll stay where they are.

This seems the most likely outcome

You'd expect so. There was an awful lot of demands, counter demands and brinkmanship between Spurs and Haringey council. I recall the club threatened to move to the Olympic stadium at one point.  I don't know how serious they were but I don't think their Herts/Essex supporters were too bothered.

I suppose the caveat would be that Haringey and Richmond are very different areas. Losing Spurs would be a massive blow to Tottenham. I'm not sure Richmond council would feel as desperate to keep the Twickenham stadium?

I think they would. I've got friends in Twickenham so go there quite a lot. The whole place's identity is built on rugby (all the pub names etc) and the divs there are even into club rugby (Harlequins, is it, that play at the Stoop?) They won't want to disassociate from it.

[LeeB]

I'd imagine the council will just relent and give them what they want and they'll stay where they are.

This seems the most likely outcome

You'd expect so. There was an awful lot of demands, counter demands and brinkmanship between Spurs and Haringey council. I recall the club threatened to move to the Olympic stadium at one point.  I don't know how serious they were but I don't think their Herts/Essex supporters were too bothered.

I suppose the caveat would be that Haringey and Richmond are very different areas. Losing Spurs would be a massive blow to Tottenham. I'm not sure Richmond council would feel as desperate to keep the Twickenham stadium?

I think they would. I've got friends in Twickenham so go there quite a lot. The whole place's identity is built on rugby (all the pub names etc) and the divs there are even into club rugby (Harlequins, is it, that play at the Stoop?) They won't want to disassociate from it.

Ooh, la-de-dah.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'd imagine the council will just relent and give them what they want and they'll stay where they are.

This seems the most likely outcome

You'd expect so. There was an awful lot of demands, counter demands and brinkmanship between Spurs and Haringey council. I recall the club threatened to move to the Olympic stadium at one point.  I don't know how serious they were but I don't think their Herts/Essex supporters were too bothered.

I suppose the caveat would be that Haringey and Richmond are very different areas. Losing Spurs would be a massive blow to Tottenham. I'm not sure Richmond council would feel as desperate to keep the Twickenham stadium?

I think they would. I've got friends in Twickenham so go there quite a lot. The whole place's identity is built on rugby (all the pub names etc) and the divs there are even into club rugby (Harlequins, is it, that play at the Stoop?) They won't want to disassociate from it.

Ooh, la-de-dah.

Twickenham's got a Wetherspoons (named after William Webb Ellis, obvs). Nowhere with a Wetherspoons deserves a la-de-dah.

[algy]

Doesn't the future king drink down the Wetherspoons at New Street station?  If anyone's la-de-dah, it's got to be the actual royal family surely?

[Hopadop]

I was in (unrequited, mostly but not always, hence being prepared to travel there) love with a girl from Teddington. That was double la de dah.

She hated rugby to her credit. Probably on account of an ex who ticked all the cliche boxes. I told her to tell him I was Welsh (I am, half) and he became genuinely angry.

[montague]

Twickenham is a terrible venue for music

[cdbearsfan]

I don't know, they seem quite happy appropriating Black spiritual music half a dozen times a year.

[The Man With A Stick]

Viewing Twickenham from outside it’s certainly not aesthetically appealing but the view of the pitch from any of the stands is great.

Tens of thousands of Barbour jacket wearing coppers, accountants and aristocrats, with a game of rugby going on in the middle.

Nein danke.

Not a chance will they move to Birmingham, it isn't a rugby town.  I don't know anyone who watches it.  I know Moseley used to have a team but that's an odd place in itself so doesn't count.

If you're into watching hairy-arsed oafs cavorting in a pool of mud then Leicester, Worcester, etc. have got that covered.

[Drummond]

Milton Keynes was the suggested location I think.

[SaddVillan]

Whatever happens with the World Cup bid it can only be a matter of time before we have a comprehensive redevelopment of both the North Stand and Witton Lane.  The North Stand will be getting on for 50 years old soon which must be close to it's intended lifespan anyway, and with the amount of space behind it there is the opportunity to develop a facility as good as anything in some of the new grounds whilst not losing our heritage.  Witton Lane will be slightly more difficult with the rights to light etc for the properties behind, although given the advances in technology since the last rebuild I suspect we will be able to get something bigger and better there as well.

I will say that any redevelopment that includes AV floodlights and putting a gable on the roof of Trinity Road would get my seal of approval.

One solution for Witton Lsne is for Villa to "acquire" sufficent houses on McGregor Close and Holte Road so that they can be demolished allowing Witton Lane to be "removed" from the the corner with Holte Road by the pub down as far as Station Road.

The Witton Lane Stand could then be rebuilt/extended upwards and backwards with plenty of room under the new Stand for bars, bogs and food outlets as well as a decent pedestrian space all the way down the outside.

Traffic could be diverted from the Witton island end of Witton Lane  via Station Road, McGregor Road and Holte Road rejoining Witton Lane by the Holte pub.

Don't know how much it would take to buy the houses, but Liverpool did something similar (although they had a few hold outs who slowed the expansion of Anfield).