I'd almost have no issue with a bowl-type effect if they rebuilt the North Stand. but leave the Holte as a stand on it's own, I guess actually that would then be a horseshoe?Anyway, I reckon we could get planning permission to build the Witton Stand over the road, as we have with the Trinity. I also think there's a huge amount of space to re-do the North as a monster of a stand. In terms of capacity to aim for, I think 50k is conservative, we should go for more.
Loath as I am to praise something in the Lambert era, but the atmosphere in the 6-1 v Sunderland was brilliant.
I agree that as the ultimate destination 50k is probably too conservative. It would obviously be fine for the time being, but if the ambition is to consistently challenge for the top six places, then I'm not convinced that it would be worth investing what would be required into one stand, without knowing that there was some way of getting closer to 60k. Everton for example are building a 55k stadium, knowing that it could be expanded if necessary.
Quote from: FatSam on March 09, 2021, 11:51:08 AMI agree that as the ultimate destination 50k is probably too conservative. It would obviously be fine for the time being, but if the ambition is to consistently challenge for the top six places, then I'm not convinced that it would be worth investing what would be required into one stand, without knowing that there was some way of getting closer to 60k. Everton for example are building a 55k stadium, knowing that it could be expanded if necessary.The North Stand currently holds 7k. Dortmund's Yellow Wall is the best stand in the world (outside of VP obviously!) and holds 25k. Stick another 18k on to our capacity and you're at 60k.Et voila!
Quote from: Ad@m on March 09, 2021, 12:24:38 PMQuote from: FatSam on March 09, 2021, 11:51:08 AMI agree that as the ultimate destination 50k is probably too conservative. It would obviously be fine for the time being, but if the ambition is to consistently challenge for the top six places, then I'm not convinced that it would be worth investing what would be required into one stand, without knowing that there was some way of getting closer to 60k. Everton for example are building a 55k stadium, knowing that it could be expanded if necessary.The North Stand currently holds 7k. Dortmund's Yellow Wall is the best stand in the world (outside of VP obviously!) and holds 25k. Stick another 18k on to our capacity and you're at 60k.Et voila!Whilst I'd kind of love a 'yellow wall' type stand I'm a bit unsure about building a stand that usurps the Hote as the 'home end.' Would it split out most vocal support? I know these are first world problems but see what I mean?
Quote from: chrisw1 on March 09, 2021, 02:32:56 PMQuote from: Ad@m on March 09, 2021, 12:24:38 PMQuote from: FatSam on March 09, 2021, 11:51:08 AMI agree that as the ultimate destination 50k is probably too conservative. It would obviously be fine for the time being, but if the ambition is to consistently challenge for the top six places, then I'm not convinced that it would be worth investing what would be required into one stand, without knowing that there was some way of getting closer to 60k. Everton for example are building a 55k stadium, knowing that it could be expanded if necessary.The North Stand currently holds 7k. Dortmund's Yellow Wall is the best stand in the world (outside of VP obviously!) and holds 25k. Stick another 18k on to our capacity and you're at 60k.Et voila!Whilst I'd kind of love a 'yellow wall' type stand I'm a bit unsure about building a stand that usurps the Hote as the 'home end.' Would it split out most vocal support? I know these are first world problems but see what I mean?The Holte has a capacity of 13.5k so if we have ambitions of Villa Park holding north of 50k we need to accept that either the Holte has to go or it's not going to be the biggest stand any more.The North Stand is the one in most desperate need of a bulldozer - I'd rather we do that properly than worry about "splitting" the home support. When Villa Park is really rocking, every stand is making noise, so a lively North Stand only adds to the atmosphere.