Quote from: Legion on December 01, 2020, 09:06:32 AMhttps://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12147701/var-debate-jamie-carragher-and-gary-neville-demand-changes-after-aston-villa-equaliser-ruled-outI love how in the article Declan Rice says the West Ham players are “laid back” about VAR and how David Moyes says the decision was right even though he admits Watkins was being fouled. Fuck off. Let’s see how laid back they are when it happens to them. Because it will.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12147701/var-debate-jamie-carragher-and-gary-neville-demand-changes-after-aston-villa-equaliser-ruled-out
Didn't like the way the Spam players hounded the ref after every decision against them.Like a moany nineties Utd.
Quote from: AlexAlexCropley on December 01, 2020, 04:59:48 PMDidn't like the way the Spam players hounded the ref after every decision against them.Like a moany nineties Utd.Agreed, he is relatively inexperienced at PL level and didn’t seem to know how to deal with it and they took advantage.
Quote from: AlexAlexCropley on December 01, 2020, 04:59:48 PMDidn't like the way the Spam players hounded the ref after every decision against them.Like a moany nineties Utd.Didn't seem to effect the referee that much, still gave us a softish penalty (but right decision). Thought West Ham should have had two more yellow cards minimum, Haller had a nasty enough rake down Ming's calf and Coufal surely deserved one for repeat fouling on Jack. Thought ref did ok to be honest, booked the two clowns on the bench too.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on December 01, 2020, 12:12:13 PMQuote from: Legion on December 01, 2020, 09:06:32 AMhttps://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12147701/var-debate-jamie-carragher-and-gary-neville-demand-changes-after-aston-villa-equaliser-ruled-outI love how in the article Declan Rice says the West Ham players are “laid back” about VAR and how David Moyes says the decision was right even though he admits Watkins was being fouled. Fuck off. Let’s see how laid back they are when it happens to them. Because it will. I agree TV. Rice is an absolute gobshite. He didn't appear laid back last night when the penalty was awarded; looked like a maniac on acid.Moyes can fuck off too. Looks like a used tissue.
Quote from: john e on December 01, 2020, 08:18:51 AMwe may have lost 4 out of 5 but we shouldn’t have That’s the difference from previous seasons can’t remember being so pissed of with a performance than last night to many players need to take a look at themselves Mings, Target, McGinn, Watkins, Trez none of them are under any pressure of losing their place in the first 11 because we have no quality to replace thembut we should have won easily last night against a side who play Bruce ballthese players let themselves and the club down, it’s not good enough I dont put Conor in that group because he’s very limited and can’t do any better,he is what he is out of his depth but that’s not his fault West Ham are not a good football side yet they are 5 th in the league ffsOpportunity missed againThat's pretty much where I am, John though I was more pissed off with the result against one of the poorest teams we've played this season. West Ham look like a pub team with big blokes that try to bully the opposition. If Rice can make the England team there's hope for everybody, every ball backwards. The really are horrible to watch and reminded me of a Pulis team.I echo the thoughts on here about VAR, it's become nonsense.The one thing that did shine out bright last night was where we are weak in this team and where we need to upgrade. Mings with his Cruyff turns is fooling nobody except himself and his lack of marking at free kicks and corners has been highlighted on here numerous times in the past. Despite playing for England he's not showing any real signs of progressing and he needs to massively improve if we are to reach our potential.Targett was obviously saving himself for the Newcastle game as he was like a statue for most of the game. I'd love to see his stats from last night. I've walked the dog further than he moved. We really need better.The midfield could do with some strength in there. Physically it was men against boys as West Ham bullied SJM, Dougie and Conor. Soucek would have been ideal for us in the summer.Ollie is work in progress. I'm sure he will make it but he still has so much to add to his game starting with close control. Too often the ball just bounces off him. He'll improve but right now it can be so frustrating. His passing too has plenty of space to improve. It would be great to have an option at least on the bench.Trez can't be allowed to keep on missing sitters. During the game last night I couldn't help thinking what a team we'd be if we had a decent winger. We need quality not just energy. It's another position that would be on my shopping list. I'm not holding my breath on Traore. Maybe we'll go back for the Serbian in January.Overall I don't see why this team can't finish in the top 8 this season other than lack of squad depth or fucking VAR. Dropping three easy points last night doesn't help but at least the foundations are there to build on. Comparisons with last season are wrong. Last year we were mainly a shambles, this year we need some fine tuning, the only problem is the parts are hard to find and generally expensive.EDIT: Sorry, forgot Jack. One or two dives last night don't help him as refs will see it and think he's an actor when in fact he gets kicked from pillow to post. The ref last night was shocking and completely lost control of the game, allowing West Ham to take him out the game on a regular basis and not do anything about it.
we may have lost 4 out of 5 but we shouldn’t have That’s the difference from previous seasons can’t remember being so pissed of with a performance than last night to many players need to take a look at themselves Mings, Target, McGinn, Watkins, Trez none of them are under any pressure of losing their place in the first 11 because we have no quality to replace thembut we should have won easily last night against a side who play Bruce ballthese players let themselves and the club down, it’s not good enough I dont put Conor in that group because he’s very limited and can’t do any better,he is what he is out of his depth but that’s not his fault West Ham are not a good football side yet they are 5 th in the league ffsOpportunity missed again