The hilarity of PGMOL wankers - not giving Ollie a pen because it wasn't a "clear and obvious" error. Yet an offside that require three minutes of drawing lines is. And the decision to overturn the one against Brighton was. You couldn't fucking make it up.
Quote from: RamboandBruno on November 30, 2020, 10:56:58 PMQuote from: Risso on November 30, 2020, 10:43:29 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2020, 10:38:27 PMQuote from: Neal and Winton on November 30, 2020, 10:35:45 PMEveryone keeps talking about this and that the amount of possession we had and VAR but the bottom line is we are letting in goals for fun and we’ve just lost four out of the last five like or not ladies and gentlemen that’s relegation formThat's the spiritHe's right though. Four defeats from five and 11 goals conceded against Leeds, Southampton, Brighton and West Ham. Mostly really cheap goals where we didn't lay a glove on them. We need to cut that out. Conceding two goals a game is what nearly did for us last season.He was talking relegation form last week as well though and it’s ultra negative. The results and goals conceded have been poor over four of the last five games, but the form or performances haven’t been. Talking relegation form in November, when we have 15 points is negative for negatives sake.It's results not performances that decide if you get relegated. 4 defeats in 5 is too short a run to be relegation form but it's getting there.
Quote from: Risso on November 30, 2020, 10:43:29 PMQuote from: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2020, 10:38:27 PMQuote from: Neal and Winton on November 30, 2020, 10:35:45 PMEveryone keeps talking about this and that the amount of possession we had and VAR but the bottom line is we are letting in goals for fun and we’ve just lost four out of the last five like or not ladies and gentlemen that’s relegation formThat's the spiritHe's right though. Four defeats from five and 11 goals conceded against Leeds, Southampton, Brighton and West Ham. Mostly really cheap goals where we didn't lay a glove on them. We need to cut that out. Conceding two goals a game is what nearly did for us last season.He was talking relegation form last week as well though and it’s ultra negative. The results and goals conceded have been poor over four of the last five games, but the form or performances haven’t been. Talking relegation form in November, when we have 15 points is negative for negatives sake.
Quote from: AlexAlexCropley on November 30, 2020, 10:38:27 PMQuote from: Neal and Winton on November 30, 2020, 10:35:45 PMEveryone keeps talking about this and that the amount of possession we had and VAR but the bottom line is we are letting in goals for fun and we’ve just lost four out of the last five like or not ladies and gentlemen that’s relegation formThat's the spiritHe's right though. Four defeats from five and 11 goals conceded against Leeds, Southampton, Brighton and West Ham. Mostly really cheap goals where we didn't lay a glove on them. We need to cut that out. Conceding two goals a game is what nearly did for us last season.
Quote from: Neal and Winton on November 30, 2020, 10:35:45 PMEveryone keeps talking about this and that the amount of possession we had and VAR but the bottom line is we are letting in goals for fun and we’ve just lost four out of the last five like or not ladies and gentlemen that’s relegation formThat's the spirit
Everyone keeps talking about this and that the amount of possession we had and VAR but the bottom line is we are letting in goals for fun and we’ve just lost four out of the last five like or not ladies and gentlemen that’s relegation form
Quote from: sickbeggar on November 30, 2020, 10:18:59 PMDean has to make a decision with the defence and shake things up because we're shipping goals like last season. i'd like to see someone dropped if he's got the bottle to do it. Defence cost us the game not VAR, or watkins miss. midfield poor. Grealish doing his party tricks and trying to beat half their team again. last season deja vu indeed. I wouldn't mind so much but west ham were crap, really poor imo. Them being 5th is worthy of an episode of Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world (one for the kids etc..). Utter arse overall.Two really soft goals, but have to disagree it’s anything like last season. We absolutely dominated that game, we never dominated any games like that last season that I can remember. A couple of sitters and a penalty missed, so architects of our downfall to an extent, but VAR did deny us a draw that was more than deserved. On VAR in general, the absolute worst element of it, as Watkins scored, I celebrated, my 10 year old sat there and said ‘naw dad VAR will rule it out’. That’s before the replay. Totally taking the joy out of football for kids, that’s the worst bit.
Dean has to make a decision with the defence and shake things up because we're shipping goals like last season. i'd like to see someone dropped if he's got the bottle to do it. Defence cost us the game not VAR, or watkins miss. midfield poor. Grealish doing his party tricks and trying to beat half their team again. last season deja vu indeed. I wouldn't mind so much but west ham were crap, really poor imo. Them being 5th is worthy of an episode of Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world (one for the kids etc..). Utter arse overall.
I think this team does not believe in itself, we were better than West Ham, we were better than Brighton but no points.
Quote from: sickbeggar on November 30, 2020, 10:34:21 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on November 30, 2020, 10:29:28 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on November 30, 2020, 10:18:59 PMDean has to make a decision with the defence and shake things up because we're shipping goals like last season. i'd like to see someone dropped if he's got the bottle to do it. Defence cost us the game not VAR, or watkins miss. midfield poor. Grealish doing his party tricks and trying to beat half their team again. last season deja vu indeed. I wouldn't mind so much but west ham were crap, really poor imo. Them being 5th is worthy of an episode of Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world (one for the kids etc..). Utter arse overall.Two really soft goals, but have to disagree it’s anything like last season. We absolutely dominated that game, we never dominated any games like that last season that I can remember. A couple of sitters and a penalty missed, so architects of our downfall to an extent, but VAR did deny us a draw that was more than deserved. On VAR in general, the absolute worst element of it, as Watkins scored, I celebrated, my 10 year old sat there and said ‘naw dad VAR will rule it out’. That’s before the replay. Totally taking the joy out of football for kids, that’s the worst bit.smart kid. to be honest, the commentators were calling it. If they disallow stuff like the bamford goal, then Watkins was deffo offside by those standards.He reads the game really well for his age to be fair. But to be honest since last season, I think he expects every goal to potentially go to VAR and be disallowed, that for me is an absolute tragedy in terms of what made me addicted to football as a kid, the thrill of a goal going in for the villa. the misuse of the technology is absolutely ripping the heart out of the game
Quote from: RamboandBruno on November 30, 2020, 10:29:28 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on November 30, 2020, 10:18:59 PMDean has to make a decision with the defence and shake things up because we're shipping goals like last season. i'd like to see someone dropped if he's got the bottle to do it. Defence cost us the game not VAR, or watkins miss. midfield poor. Grealish doing his party tricks and trying to beat half their team again. last season deja vu indeed. I wouldn't mind so much but west ham were crap, really poor imo. Them being 5th is worthy of an episode of Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world (one for the kids etc..). Utter arse overall.Two really soft goals, but have to disagree it’s anything like last season. We absolutely dominated that game, we never dominated any games like that last season that I can remember. A couple of sitters and a penalty missed, so architects of our downfall to an extent, but VAR did deny us a draw that was more than deserved. On VAR in general, the absolute worst element of it, as Watkins scored, I celebrated, my 10 year old sat there and said ‘naw dad VAR will rule it out’. That’s before the replay. Totally taking the joy out of football for kids, that’s the worst bit.smart kid. to be honest, the commentators were calling it. If they disallow stuff like the bamford goal, then Watkins was deffo offside by those standards.
Well I think it’s safe to say the Sheffield United ghost goal has been well and truly avenged.
Quote from: Astnor on November 30, 2020, 10:54:26 PMQuote from: Lastfootstamper on November 30, 2020, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on November 30, 2020, 10:36:16 PMIt’s about belief, we dominate a game and still manage to lose.There is a problem,not sure what it is but I would start with the defense.We've missed a penalty and yet another fucking sitter, McGinn's shite right foot, off target with a fantastically positioned free kick and a header from six yards out, restricted the opposition to two efforts on target, and people think it's the defence that's the problem? Lots and lots and lots and fucking lots of shooting practice wouldn't go amiss, imho.You could say we where allowed to attack and dominate the game because they were in the lead for most of the game.Then hats off to Moyes for his unwavering bravery in banking on us missing all those chances. It's not like they successfully shut up shop, we battered them but finished with all the aplomb of a Scouts under-9s 'b' team.
Quote from: Lastfootstamper on November 30, 2020, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on November 30, 2020, 10:36:16 PMIt’s about belief, we dominate a game and still manage to lose.There is a problem,not sure what it is but I would start with the defense.We've missed a penalty and yet another fucking sitter, McGinn's shite right foot, off target with a fantastically positioned free kick and a header from six yards out, restricted the opposition to two efforts on target, and people think it's the defence that's the problem? Lots and lots and lots and fucking lots of shooting practice wouldn't go amiss, imho.You could say we where allowed to attack and dominate the game because they were in the lead for most of the game.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on November 30, 2020, 10:36:16 PMIt’s about belief, we dominate a game and still manage to lose.There is a problem,not sure what it is but I would start with the defense.We've missed a penalty and yet another fucking sitter, McGinn's shite right foot, off target with a fantastically positioned free kick and a header from six yards out, restricted the opposition to two efforts on target, and people think it's the defence that's the problem? Lots and lots and lots and fucking lots of shooting practice wouldn't go amiss, imho.
It’s about belief, we dominate a game and still manage to lose.There is a problem,not sure what it is but I would start with the defense.
Quote from: RamboandBruno on November 30, 2020, 10:47:41 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on November 30, 2020, 10:34:21 PMQuote from: RamboandBruno on November 30, 2020, 10:29:28 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on November 30, 2020, 10:18:59 PMDean has to make a decision with the defence and shake things up because we're shipping goals like last season. i'd like to see someone dropped if he's got the bottle to do it. Defence cost us the game not VAR, or watkins miss. midfield poor. Grealish doing his party tricks and trying to beat half their team again. last season deja vu indeed. I wouldn't mind so much but west ham were crap, really poor imo. Them being 5th is worthy of an episode of Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world (one for the kids etc..). Utter arse overall.Two really soft goals, but have to disagree it’s anything like last season. We absolutely dominated that game, we never dominated any games like that last season that I can remember. A couple of sitters and a penalty missed, so architects of our downfall to an extent, but VAR did deny us a draw that was more than deserved. On VAR in general, the absolute worst element of it, as Watkins scored, I celebrated, my 10 year old sat there and said ‘naw dad VAR will rule it out’. That’s before the replay. Totally taking the joy out of football for kids, that’s the worst bit.smart kid. to be honest, the commentators were calling it. If they disallow stuff like the bamford goal, then Watkins was deffo offside by those standards.He reads the game really well for his age to be fair. But to be honest since last season, I think he expects every goal to potentially go to VAR and be disallowed, that for me is an absolute tragedy in terms of what made me addicted to football as a kid, the thrill of a goal going in for the villa. the misuse of the technology is absolutely ripping the heart out of the gameOnce this pandemic comes to an end there is a very real risk that people will stop attending matches if they're deprived of the visceral unleashing of whatever ails them the moment a goal is scored. From a personal perspective, there seems very little point in making a 200 mile round trip to be cold, frustrated and left in the dark while something that used to provide joy is pored upon by men in a West London warehouse, only to be told in the end that what you think is important doesn't matter.