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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3375 on: February 17, 2023, 09:19:23 AM »
Inside Emi Martinez’s bid to be world’s best goalkeeper
Interview with Neil Cutler our former Goalkeeping coach.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64568155
« Last Edit: February 17, 2023, 09:21:36 AM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3376 on: February 17, 2023, 09:47:00 AM »
I’d say sell if he wants to go and we can get a decent price.

Where we’ve gone wrong before is we’ve split the money too many ways, which is much more of a gamble.

2 x 50 million pound players or 1 x 75 million player and a 25 million player might have had more impact than the 3 we bought with the Grealish money.
Firstly, we're not geting £100m for a keeper.

Secondly, the first £35m or so has to go on a replacement keeper - and we're paying a premium price as the seller knows we're desperate.

So if we sell for £70m ish, we may have a profit of £35 ish to improve the team.  Are we so strapped with FFP that this would make a tangible difference?  With our net spend over the last two seasons I just can't see how it would.

Other than Martinez downing tools I just can't see any way that selling him is to our advantage with where we want to be.  We should be looking at Newcastle and thinking 'why can't we do that?'  Their owners should be mostly irrelevant at this point as we have the same FFP restrictions and their income shouldn't be dramatically more than ours.

I think the £100m he’s on about is the Grealish money, mate

Emi certainly won’t ‘down tools’, as he does love the Villa.
I do think if an offer came in , let’s say from PSG, he would want to go. They would have to meet our valuation, though, and that would need to be around £70m-£80m

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3377 on: February 17, 2023, 09:50:53 AM »
We have a world cup winning keeper, who may just get voted as the best in the world, who publicly states he loves it here and wants to win things with us.

Why would we be selling him?  I don't think we will.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3378 on: February 17, 2023, 09:55:33 AM »
We have a world cup winning keeper, who may just get voted as the best in the world, who publicly states he loves it here and wants to win things with us.

Why would we be selling him?  I don't think we will.

If he pushes to leave for a club in CL then we will do well to stop him going. Especially as Raya at our feeder club is refusing to sign a new contract. In our team of short arses, Martinez ability to physically dominate the box would be sorely missed. He's a top keeper.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3379 on: February 17, 2023, 10:04:32 AM »
We have a world cup winning keeper, who may just get voted as the best in the world, who publicly states he loves it here and wants to win things with us.

Why would we be selling him?  I don't think we will.

If he pushes to leave for a club in CL then we will do well to stop him going. Especially as Raya at our feeder club is refusing to sign a new contract. In our team of short arses, Martinez ability to physically dominate the box would be sorely missed. He's a top keeper.

There's an ethereal quality with goalkeepers, at any level, where their manner just excudes calm and confidence from their teammates. Martinez has this in spades and it was evident from the first minute in our colours.

Going back into the past, I don't think David Seaman was the most talented keeper by any stretch but he had the same thing, it goes a long way.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3380 on: February 17, 2023, 02:59:13 PM »
We have a world cup winning keeper, who may just get voted as the best in the world, who publicly states he loves it here and wants to win things with us.

Why would we be selling him?  I don't think we will.

If he pushes to leave for a club in CL then we will do well to stop him going. Especially as Raya at our feeder club is refusing to sign a new contract. In our team of short arses, Martinez ability to physically dominate the box would be sorely missed. He's a top keeper.

Going back into the past, I don't think David Seaman was the most talented keeper by any stretch but he had the same thing, it goes a long way.

Calm and confidence are not words I'd have used if I'd been stuck in a room with him back in the day. That 'tache and pony tail combo would have me terrified he'd slip me a Mickey and have me on a video while I was under.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3381 on: February 17, 2023, 03:23:33 PM »
We have a world cup winning keeper, who may just get voted as the best in the world, who publicly states he loves it here and wants to win things with us.

Why would we be selling him?  I don't think we will.

If he pushes to leave for a club in CL then we will do well to stop him going. Especially as Raya at our feeder club is refusing to sign a new contract. In our team of short arses, Martinez ability to physically dominate the box would be sorely missed. He's a top keeper.

Going back into the past, I don't think David Seaman was the most talented keeper by any stretch but he had the same thing, it goes a long way.

Calm and confidence are not words I'd have used if I'd been stuck in a room with him back in the day. That 'tache and pony tail combo would have me terrified he'd slip me a Mickey and have me on a video while I was under.

Big 'Bedroom Secrets of the Masterchefs' vibes going on there

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3382 on: February 17, 2023, 03:25:32 PM »
Well, we've seen how these people operate.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3383 on: February 17, 2023, 06:43:12 PM »
Inside Emi Martinez’s bid to be world’s best goalkeeper
Interview with Neil Cutler our former Goalkeeping coach.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64568155

It’s a good article.  One big blot on Emery’s scorecard is getting rid of Cutler.  Just didn’t seem necessary.

There’s also an insight into how Lange etc works with the manager and coaches.  How Cutler describes it seems a pretty good balance of stats and also the eye-test.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3384 on: February 17, 2023, 08:41:54 PM »
I’d agree with the confidence, calmness and self assurance sentiments but if he wants to go and we get a decent price he can go. Don’t get me wrong he’s been very good and his profile has obviously sky rocketed post World Cup but he’s not being exempt, like lots of keepers, from errors and mistakes.
It doesn’t look great to sell a high profile player but I’d be confident he could be replaced without falling off a cliff.
At the end of the day I want players who want to play for us.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3385 on: February 17, 2023, 08:47:02 PM »
Selling Emi is going to be like a lite version of selling Joe - a great "character" who out grew the club because we just cant progress fast enough

We can kid ourselves were better off - but the message it sends to the world is the same as every time - were a stepping stone club

Maybe for once we wont waste the money - but the message it sends is all wrong.  Newcastle aren't going to sale Pope and hes nowhere near as good as Emi

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3386 on: February 17, 2023, 09:02:08 PM »
All but a handful of elite clubs lose their players. It looks the same as losing Grealish but it’s very different playing wise.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3387 on: February 17, 2023, 09:03:12 PM »
I see what your saying - but we dont handle losing our best players well

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3388 on: February 17, 2023, 09:13:17 PM »
I see what your saying - but we dont handle losing our best players well

Well unfortunately it’s something we’re going to have to get better at because until we’re featuring regular in Europe or at the very least challenging the better players won’t stop for long.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3389 on: February 18, 2023, 02:49:52 PM »
Martinez needs to realise that saving couple of pens from very nervous takers in a final doesn’t make you a good keeper. He has been terrible recently. Crap at his main job and embarrassing with his other antics.

 


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