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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1830 on: October 25, 2022, 04:55:40 PM »
The one ball he played was fantastic.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1831 on: October 25, 2022, 05:00:59 PM »
It certainly was. He's capable of it all.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1832 on: October 28, 2022, 03:26:21 PM »
It certainly was. He's capable of it all.

The one ball he played was fantastic.

Further to Risso comments and also having seen the above.
It's a duty to me to raise the concern and that Emery would no doubt identify a weakness from Martinez who is an excellent goal keeper but has a clear weakness in his ability and efficiency in passing the ball. It's lacking for top level and how we will be playing under Emery

Firstly in agreement:
Martinez's play with the ball against Brentford was excellent, but it was the exception.

But to play out from the back and those who suggest he can pass a ball and kick well. And have made outlandish comments I debate this strongly and put it he will be needed to improve that area as he generally and quality and super keeper in other aspects

Are you putting Martinez on par with Barcelona's Ter Stegen and German great Manuel Nauer?
How about the class of Brazil? He is nowhere near the accuracy or distribution level of Ederson or Alison. These are the Man City and Liverpool goalkeepers.
My opinion is that even the English international goalkeepers are superior to EM because he lacks Ramsdale or Pickford's distance or overall accuracy.

Or even set up attacks using throws like England squad goalkeeper Dean Henderson, who he is adept at passing the ball though mixed he gets the ball out far quicker for forest.

Martinez's play with the ball against Brentford was excellent, but it was the exception.

Martinez's sloppy and generally one dimensional  passing from goal kicks, and his hurried or poor passing to the defenders are my main concerns. And will be Emerys.
I've seen both Brazilian keepers distribution numerous times, and they have made an odd error but Martinez has his work cut out in getting the ball out to Mings and the other defenders as for me I don't find his passing range both long and short as good as the rest of his amazing goal keeping abilities.

A goalkeeper must be skilled with his feet, so a new goalkeeping coach will either concentrate on helping the player learn and adjust or we will bring someone who can so we can play out from the back.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2022, 03:28:02 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1833 on: October 28, 2022, 03:33:45 PM »
I think Martinez is more than good enough with his feet and also has an excellent throw.  We just haven't used him much this way over the last couple of years  As with all players there may be a period of adjustment to Emery's methods and tactics, but I'm pretty confident as one of the best keepers in the world Emi will work through it ok.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1834 on: October 28, 2022, 04:58:54 PM »
I think Martinez is more than good enough with his feet and also has an excellent throw.  We just haven't used him much this way over the last couple of years  As with all players there may be a period of adjustment to Emery's methods and tactics, but I'm pretty confident as one of the best keepers in the world Emi will work through it ok.
Well I do hope so and root for his improvement and adaptation. Martinez is one of my favourite people
Amazing guy. And I think he has a very high chance of winning the World Cup so we need to enjoy him while we can.
Should be playing higher level.

Let's hope Emery brings the cups in this season.
Not impossible! 

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1835 on: October 28, 2022, 06:01:08 PM »
Whenever I've seen Alisson try and play out from the back he looks fucking shite. Under any pressure he panics and gets in a tangle or lumps it out.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1836 on: October 28, 2022, 06:23:39 PM »
Whenever I've seen Alisson try and play out from the back he looks fucking shite. Under any pressure he panics and gets in a tangle or lumps it out.

The Chelsea keeper at Leeds tried something flash as well and presented Leeds with a tap in.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1837 on: October 28, 2022, 06:31:13 PM »
And has barely been seen since with Kepa-Keepa coming in from the cold.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1838 on: October 28, 2022, 06:49:49 PM »
Whenever I've seen Alisson try and play out from the back he looks fucking shite. Under any pressure he panics and gets in a tangle or lumps it out.

The Chelsea keeper at Leeds tried something flash as well and presented Leeds with a tap in.

They never seem to do that against us, quite the opposite

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1839 on: October 28, 2022, 09:22:42 PM »
Well to be fair they dropped him after that. Part of the reason Kepa is playing is his ability to pass the ball.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1840 on: October 29, 2022, 06:09:14 PM »
I think it seemed that Martinez head injury was a cause for him not to play the whole game and should have been taken off far sooner. I've been hearing it was obvious that he wasn't fit to continue.

An ex striker now pundit Kris Boyd who was on sky sports
"I’m no medical expert but I can see from here that it was serious. It was in the side of the head, a knee full force from Tyrone Mings, you could tell Martinez was struggling. Why the medical staff don’t put their foot down and take him off this field is an absolute disgrace.”


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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1841 on: October 29, 2022, 06:14:58 PM »
Boyd may have been right on this issue, but that still doesn't mean that he wasn't a twat throughout his stint on Sky today. As an ex-Rangers player he is obviously bitter that we took Gerrard from Rangers, and now he's bitter that we have sacked him.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1842 on: October 29, 2022, 06:18:06 PM »
It was a piss poor decision to leave him on.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1843 on: October 29, 2022, 06:19:19 PM »
Boyd may have been right on this issue, but that still doesn't mean that he wasn't a twat throughout his stint on Sky today. As an ex-Rangers player he is obviously bitter that we took Gerrard from Rangers, and now he's bitter that we have sacked him.

Boyd is a everything you would expect from someone who played for them. Why on earth he's considered as a "pundit" is beyond me

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - signed
« Reply #1844 on: October 29, 2022, 06:25:19 PM »
For the last two seasons, coming towards the weekend, I wondered how many times we would see Richarlison (now Spuds) rolling around on his arse time wasting.

This season, Martinez has taken over the mantle in 'time wasting' and is an embarrassment to our great club. A great shot stopper but pathetic and slow with his distribution.

If Emery wants to play from the back and at a higher tempo, Martinez is in for the chop unless his footwork and speed of thought improve dramatically.

He is excused for today because he had a saw head.  >:(

 


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