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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9375 on: Today at 07:20:01 PM »
He is showing all the signs that he is done at this level sadly.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9376 on: Today at 07:22:35 PM »
I'd start Watkins against Wolves. He's always been feast or famine and his hunger strike has to end at some point. Villa Park against relegated Wolves seems an ideal place to have a big scoff.
Yes, would deffo persist with him to see if that half yard returns with a goal.

Reading between the lines, with the talk of an injury and selective training combined with the fact that we are actually playing him, it sounds like at least part of the problem is in his mind.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9377 on: Today at 07:23:25 PM »
We've won 9 of the last 11, are 4th, and yet some want to spend their Sunday evening posting endlessly about how shit one of our players is.

…which they’ve posted dozens of times before.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9378 on: Today at 07:25:14 PM »
Some of you are posting in quite a passive-aggressive way, which is fitting, because that's how Watkins has been playing for most of the year.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9379 on: Today at 07:52:45 PM »
Its difficult because i was thinking last January if Arsenal had put up the money for Watkins at that point, best he went, said so at the time, better for him and for Villa, it didn't happen, lets not forget he got virtually sidelined when Asensio and Rashford came in, hence the complaining from Watkins last season, so where next, I personally think you now have to give the player time (even more time) hope he can play through this, look at his face today when that shot missed the spot, you can see he's in difficulty, only a couple of months back Rogers was playing like a complete amateur but  he's played through it and you have today performance.

Think he has to be given time, I think their is a chance that once those goals start coming it could turn into an avalanche, that said, if somebody comes in for him in January, let him go, either way we need another total striker in the next transfer window.   

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9380 on: Today at 08:11:12 PM »
Think he has to be given time
There's an entirely valid argument that says he has been given time. Smirker turning up like a pantomime villain through a trapdoor in the stage to repeat himself to general booing, doesn't disguise the fact that Watkins is a shadow of the player he was. He works hard but he doesn't function as a goal-scorer in the current team and that may be down to tactics or confidence or something else (although, I don't believe he'd be allowed to carry an injury - however niggling - for this long). It doesn't really matter, no team can afford to carry anyone and he's not worth his place at the moment. His past-glories deserve our eternal gratitude, but they don't make up for his present failings.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9381 on: Today at 08:12:14 PM »
What a way to spend a Sunday evening, GJ.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9382 on: Today at 08:18:06 PM »
I'm just sitting on the bog in between watching  old episodes of QI. My Sunday evening is actually remarkably productive.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9383 on: Today at 08:19:02 PM »
Where next? Score a shed load of goals between now and the end of the season and flog him to Saudi Arabia for a small fortune. I can't see any PL club outside of the Sky 5 + Spurs having the money that we'd want. Age is not our friend in his case.

Hang on, he's only 29, 30 next month? For some reason I thought he was 32 knocking on 33. Somebody will likely cough up £25m-£30m but Saudi is the best bet.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9384 on: Today at 08:21:12 PM »
He’s having a very poor run of form, but what forward hasn’t.  I still think he is quality and will come good for us once more.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9385 on: Today at 08:36:42 PM »
Unless he's sold in January which I very much doubt I'd still have him down for 15 goals in all competitions this season.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9386 on: Today at 08:45:23 PM »
He is showing all the signs that he is done at this level sadly.


Yep not physically 100% (Tuchel already confirmed this) and my worry is he's lost a yard of pace as towards the end of the Man. City game he wasn't reaching some throughballs he'd have got to no problem last season.

So mentally he is starting to realise this and it is impacting given it's been a major part of his game for us and also at Brentford years back.

Everyone was terrible in the first five games. However since then Rogers has massively got going again. Ollie scored a fantastic goal v Fulham but that was two months ago and he really dosen't look like scoring at all currently.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9387 on: Today at 09:12:20 PM »
We've won 9 of the last 11, are 4th, and yet some want to spend their Sunday evening posting endlessly about how shit one of our players is.

How did you write that and click post and think you were making some sort of point? No critical posts allowed because we won a game? You can't defend his form so you try and attack me for posting about it.

You've got almost 80,000 posts, you're the last person on here who should be shaming someone else for "endlessly posting".


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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9388 on: Today at 09:12:59 PM »
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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #9389 on: Today at 09:15:30 PM »
He is showing all the signs that he is done at this level sadly.


Yep not physically 100% (Tuchel already confirmed this) and my worry is he's lost a yard of pace as towards the end of the Man. City game he wasn't reaching some throughballs he'd have got to no problem last season.

So mentally he is starting to realise this and it is impacting given it's been a major part of his game for us and also at Brentford years back.

Everyone was terrible in the first five games. However since then Rogers has massively got going again. Ollie scored a fantastic goal v Fulham but that was two months ago and he really dosen't look like scoring at all currently.
His reaction times, his speed if thought, his lack of awareness and ability to put his body into the right place to receive the ball and move the ball.

 


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