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Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4125 on: March 12, 2025, 06:30:52 PM »
I cant believe the club felt to give coutinho such a long term contract.

Thats one of the biggest recent financial  disasters in years

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4126 on: March 12, 2025, 06:35:27 PM »
I cant believe the club felt to give coutinho such a long term contract.

Thats one of the biggest recent financial  disasters in years

How many years have to pass for something to still be recent?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4127 on: March 12, 2025, 06:39:10 PM »
If it hadn't been for that twat Christopher Columbus discovering The Americas, we wouldn't be in this mess.

More generally, I mean, nothing to do with Coutinho or football.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4128 on: March 12, 2025, 06:43:07 PM »
I cant believe the club felt to give coutinho such a long term contract.

Thats one of the biggest recent financial  disasters in years

How many years have to pass for something to still be recent?

Can you name a more recent financial disaster  at the club?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4129 on: March 12, 2025, 06:43:30 PM »
I cant believe the club felt to give coutinho such a long term contract.

Thats one of the biggest recent financial  disasters in years

How many years have to pass for something to still be recent?

Demitri's still upset about the South Sea Bubble.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4130 on: March 12, 2025, 06:52:42 PM »
You are aware we signed him in 2022 a mere 3 years ago 😂 you are making out as if it 2012 😉

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4131 on: March 12, 2025, 06:55:26 PM »
I cant believe the club felt to give coutinho such a long term contract.

Thats one of the biggest recent financial  disasters in years

How many years have to pass for something to still be recent?

Can you name a more recent financial disaster  at the club?

I've been several times since then.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4132 on: March 12, 2025, 07:41:32 PM »
You are aware we signed him in 2022 a mere 3 years ago 😂 you are making out as if it 2012 😉

Under a different chief exec, a different head of recruitment, and a different manager.

It's clearly not worked out as we'd hoped, but let's not pretend that our financial 'mistakes' even come close to outweighing the good decisions.   I saw something recently that showed the value of premier league squads against the money paid for them, and we had the biggest difference - so we're doing something right.  Seems silly to focus on one bad decision three years ago when the evidence is clear that we've been doing far more things right.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4133 on: March 12, 2025, 07:45:53 PM »
Easily the worst investments I can think of in recentish years:

- Emile Heskey, made the highest earner at the club aged 31, on a 3.5 year deal, having averaged 5 goals a season over the previous 5 years.
- Shay Given, at 35 years old given a 5 year contract.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4134 on: March 12, 2025, 07:51:45 PM »
You are aware we signed him in 2022 a mere 3 years ago 😂 you are making out as if it 2012 😉

Under a different chief exec, a different head of recruitment, and a different manager.

It's clearly not worked out as we'd hoped, but let's not pretend that our financial 'mistakes' even come close to outweighing the good decisions.   I saw something recently that showed the value of premier league squads against the money paid for them, and we had the biggest difference - so we're doing something right.  Seems silly to focus on one bad decision three years ago when the evidence is clear that we've been doing far more things right.

Im not disagreeing with any of that smithy just merely  pointing out coutinho was a financial  disaster and i cant wait to see back of him. His wages are absolutely  killing us.

Easily the worst investments I can think of in recentish years:

- Emile Heskey, made the highest earner at the club aged 31, on a 3.5 year deal, having averaged 5 goals a season over the previous 5 years.
- Shay Given, at 35 years old given a 5 year contract.

Fucking hell forgot about that shay given one

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4135 on: March 12, 2025, 07:52:23 PM »
Micah Richards, 4 years and high wages even though we couldn't insure him.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4136 on: March 12, 2025, 07:53:32 PM »
Micah Richards, 4 years and high wages even though we couldn't insure him.
.he was a free though and he got injured to be fair to him even if he flopped

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4137 on: March 20, 2025, 10:54:26 PM »
BBC Radio WM's Mike Taylor:

Vinny asked: I've heard that Villa may have some more PSR issues in the future as the wage bill is huge in comparison to income. Do you know if this is true? If it is true, does the club have a plan for addressing it?

Mike said: I think you can be sure that they have a plan, Vinny. We saw last year – in fact Villa described it after the event with plenty of dramatic detail – that they had a plan to duck under the PSR limbo-bar, and achieved it. We know they've stayed within the rules again so far, but they clearly have a big wage bill relative to their income – the highest proportion of the top 20 clubs on the Deloitte "Money League" on their most recent figures issued in January.

They were only on that list at all because of a significant increase in revenue, and by reaching and prospering in the Champions League – as well as drawing in a hefty profit on Jhon Duran – they are likely to move up that table next time. Their wage bill will be higher too, but a big increase in income should ease the pressure.

Only for one season, though – which is why qualifying for Europe, regularly, is so important for Villa. As you note in your question, the issue is not the absolute size of the wage bill, but its relationship to their income, which must seriously complicate forward-planning.

At this point Villa could conceivably reach any of the three European competitions next season, or none of them. After last summer, I'd be confident that Villa have a plan to stay out of trouble whichever situation arises, but I'm sure Plan A is a lot easier than Plan D.

 


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