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Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8520 on: September 14, 2025, 06:12:07 PM »
Yorke and Ollie, both played as strikers in the 3 seasons I posted with both playing in sides that finished 4th, 5th and 7th. So it's a decent comparison.

And Baros scored 9 in the 42 league games for us.

51 apps in total.

The record is very, very similar.

Decent striker - yes.

Good enough for where we want to be - no.

If you lot are happy with midtable then fine. That's about his level.

Well it’s demonstrably not, who played centre forward when we qualified for the Champions League? I forget.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8521 on: September 14, 2025, 06:27:02 PM »
Yorke and Ollie, both played as strikers in the 3 seasons I posted with both playing in sides that finished 4th, 5th and 7th. So it's a decent comparison.

And Baros scored 9 in the 42 league games for us.

51 apps in total.

The record is very, very similar.

Decent striker - yes.

Good enough for where we want to be - no.

If you lot are happy with midtable then fine. That's about his level.

Well it’s demonstrably not, who played centre forward when we qualified for the Champions League? I forget.

How did he do in the CL?

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8522 on: September 14, 2025, 06:28:42 PM »
Yorke and Ollie, both played as strikers in the 3 seasons I posted with both playing in sides that finished 4th, 5th and 7th. So it's a decent comparison.

And Baros scored 9 in the 42 league games for us.

51 apps in total.

The record is very, very similar.

Decent striker - yes.

Good enough for where we want to be - no.

If you lot are happy with midtable then fine. That's about his level.
The last three seasons we’ve finished 7th, 4th and 6th, with guess who as our main striker.
You know this though, so I’m not sure why you’re twisting this way and that to persist with your stance.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8523 on: September 14, 2025, 06:39:34 PM »
Sidestepping the fact that you can be a midtable level player in a top 6 level team, we've also finished 11th and 14th with him as our striker, and we're 19th now.

What is the average league position if you combine them all?


Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8524 on: September 14, 2025, 06:48:59 PM »
We looked a good bet to be relegated twice with Yorke playing, it's not on one player if you're at the top, middle or bottom of a league, It why in 6 years as a first teamer Jack spent 3 outside the top flight, plus one being relegated, one nearly relegated, and 11th. And is why Quinton Fortune has more league title medals than McGrath.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8525 on: September 14, 2025, 07:08:23 PM »
Sidestepping the fact that you can be a midtable level player in a top 6 level team, we've also finished 11th and 14th with him as our striker, and we're 19th now.

What is the average league position if you combine them all?
Cmon, you said if we want to finish mid table then stick with Watkins and when pointed out to you, we’ve been a top 4, top 6 side with Watkins, you’ve side stepped again.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8526 on: September 14, 2025, 07:10:03 PM »
Without bringing in assists, which make him elite (but are something beyond the comprehension of some) he has finished 7th, 4th, 7th in the PL goal scoring charts in the last 3 years - it’s hardly like his performance on goals alone is off where we are.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8527 on: September 14, 2025, 07:12:09 PM »
Sidestepping the fact that you can be a midtable level player in a top 6 level team, we've also finished 11th and 14th with him as our striker, and we're 19th now.

What is the average league position if you combine them all?
Cmon, you said if we want to finish mid table then stick with Watkins and when pointed out to you, we’ve been a top 4, top 6 side with Watkins, you’ve side stepped again.


and including us being 19th this season, after 4 games, is a cheap trick.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8528 on: September 14, 2025, 10:01:23 PM »
Sidestepping the fact that you can be a midtable level player in a top 6 level team, we've also finished 11th and 14th with him as our striker, and we're 19th now.

What is the average league position if you combine them all?
Cmon, you said if we want to finish mid table then stick with Watkins and when pointed out to you, we’ve been a top 4, top 6 side with Watkins, you’ve side stepped again.


and including us being 19th this season, after 4 games, is a cheap trick.

Or the arguments of somone with an agenda. Almost as bad as Villa for Life and his gripes against Martinez.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8529 on: September 14, 2025, 10:03:12 PM »
Sidestepping the fact that you can be a midtable level player in a top 6 level team, we've also finished 11th and 14th with him as our striker, and we're 19th now.

What is the average league position if you combine them all?
Cmon, you said if we want to finish mid table then stick with Watkins and when pointed out to you, we’ve been a top 4, top 6 side with Watkins, you’ve side stepped again.


and including us being 19th this season, after 4 games, is a cheap trick.

Or the arguments of somone with an agenda. Almost as bad as Villa for Life and his gripes against Martinez.
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Don’t make it personal now. C’mon you can do better …

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8530 on: September 14, 2025, 10:07:03 PM »
Well I know how to quote correctly. And who stated it is personal. I'm comparing one poster with an irrational dislike for a villa player with another. But I do apologise to Smirker, I like his other posts on other subjects normally.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8531 on: September 14, 2025, 10:09:35 PM »
Well I know how to quote correctly. And who stated it is personal. I'm comparing one poster with an irrational dislike for a villa player with another. But I do apologise to Smirker, I like his other posts on other subjects normally.

Well done! Gold star for you!!

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8532 on: September 14, 2025, 10:11:51 PM »
Well I know how to quote correctly. And who stated it is personal. I'm comparing one poster with an irrational dislike for a villa player with another. But I do apologise to Smirker, I like his other posts on other subjects normally.

Thanks.

Apology accepted but not needed.

I just don't think he's a good goalscorer  8)

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8533 on: September 15, 2025, 03:49:54 AM »
Well I know how to quote correctly. And who stated it is personal. I'm comparing one poster with an irrational dislike for a villa player with another. But I do apologise to Smirker, I like his other posts on other subjects normally.

Thanks.

Apology accepted but not needed.

I just don't think he's a good goalscorer  8)

No, but based on my intimate knowledge of the mods (what with me being Dave W's surrogate son, and knowing that Legion loves my hair) I'd say they're probably at least 60% disposed towards temporarily closing this thread out of sheer fucking tedium.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8534 on: September 15, 2025, 07:50:21 AM »
He's been a good signing and everything but he's been largely shite now since the Euro's and it was Mad Jhon that saved our arses in the first half of last season.

Never mind the goals, his first touch is like a Pong paddle and he's as threatening with the ball at his feet as blancmange. Yes, the team is struggling and its not all his fault but he's doing very little to lift the malaise.

 


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