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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6480 on: December 30, 2024, 10:12:01 PM »
It is absolutely mental he’s being targeted for criticism when his actions resulted in the two goals we scored. If he maintained that level across a season he’d have 38 goals and 38 assists - strikers don’t take all their chances, it just doesn’t happen, if you end up directly involved in both goals the team scores you’ve done your job.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6481 on: December 30, 2024, 10:17:59 PM »
We conceded 48 goals in 42 league games in 2023. 1.14 goals per game.

We conceded 65 goals in 37 league games in 2024. 1.75 goals per game.

That's the difference.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6482 on: December 30, 2024, 10:18:17 PM »
The defence is getting pelters, Watkins should have put the game to bed.  Don't see the argument.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6483 on: December 30, 2024, 10:19:09 PM »
Strikers don't take all their chances, but he should be taking more than he is at present.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6484 on: December 30, 2024, 10:26:35 PM »
The defence is getting pelters, Watkins should have put the game to bed.  Don't see the argument.

Strange to call him a wanker, isn’t it? The argument is simple, we shouldn’t have to score 3 goals to win a game.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6485 on: December 30, 2024, 10:27:31 PM »
When he’s no longer at the club I think people will see how good he was. His ability to consistently score and create goals is very high level - he misses chances, always has and always will, many strikers do - but his consistent involvement in making our attack function over a long period is something else. Much maligned for some reason, longer-term we will struggle massively to replace him. People should look at our very obvious flaws ( 2 goals at home should win you most games, it would for most teams - but as a team we are broken defensively).

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6486 on: December 30, 2024, 10:29:57 PM »
The defence is getting pelters, Watkins should have put the game to bed.  Don't see the argument.

Strange to call him a wanker, isn’t it? The argument is simple, we shouldn’t have to score 3 goals to win a game.
Not really.If you missed that chance at the end you'd be a wanker too.If you scored it I'd be cheering your name down Trinity Rd.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6487 on: December 30, 2024, 10:37:05 PM »
8 goals and 4 assists in half a season is more than decent considering he rarely plays 90 mins now. His numbers are bound to be down on last season because of that. The only players with more combined PL goals and assists since the start of last season are Salah, Haaland and Palmer. When people think we need better the reality is that there aren't many that are on his level.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6488 on: December 30, 2024, 10:39:03 PM »
The defence is getting pelters, Watkins should have put the game to bed.  Don't see the argument.

Strange to call him a wanker, isn’t it? The argument is simple, we shouldn’t have to score 3 goals to win a game.
Not really.If you missed that chance at the end you'd be a wanker too.If you scored it I'd be cheering your name down Trinity Rd.

That chance was hardly a sitter. Lashed at it alright but plenty of defenders near him.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6489 on: December 30, 2024, 10:40:33 PM »
The defence is getting pelters, Watkins should have put the game to bed.  Don't see the argument.

Strange to call him a wanker, isn’t it? The argument is simple, we shouldn’t have to score 3 goals to win a game.
Not really.If you missed that chance at the end you'd be a wanker too.If you scored it I'd be cheering your name down Trinity Rd.

That chance was hardly a sitter. Lashed at it alright but plenty of defenders near him.
Come on now, it was a gimmee

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6490 on: December 30, 2024, 10:40:56 PM »
Two of his goals this season are pens also which he didn’t have last year. He looks far less clinical this season than last. I’m sure the euros took a lot out of him and many of those players didn’t get much of a break. I still like Ollie a lot. Getting into those positions to miss is so much of what has made him the player he is. But at this level we can’t afford the misses  from him or others. And especially in a season where we are just atrocious at the back. It would be great if we only needed 1 or 2 goals at most to win games. That it’s more means it’s much more than an Ollie Watkins issue right now.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6491 on: December 30, 2024, 10:41:21 PM »
8 goals and 4 assists in half a season is more than decent considering he rarely plays 90 mins now. His numbers are bound to be down on last season because of that. The only players with more combined PL goals and assists since the start of last season are Salah, Haaland and Palmer. When people think we need better the reality is that there aren't many that are on his level.

Exactly - like I said he does what he did tonight in every game and he’d have 38 goals and 38 assists - now obviously that’s not possible, but it shows how bonkers it is to identify him as a problem tonight.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6492 on: December 30, 2024, 10:43:18 PM »
I think his hold up play is very strong but his confidence around the box has disappeared.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6493 on: December 30, 2024, 10:43:31 PM »
The defence is getting pelters, Watkins should have put the game to bed.  Don't see the argument.

Strange to call him a wanker, isn’t it? The argument is simple, we shouldn’t have to score 3 goals to win a game.
Not really.If you missed that chance at the end you'd be a wanker too.If you scored it I'd be cheering your name down Trinity Rd.

Almost like the person missing the chance isn’t the wanker.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #6494 on: December 30, 2024, 10:45:37 PM »
I think his hold up play is very strong but his confidence around the box has disappeared.

And yet he scored an excellent pen and produced a brilliant assist. That’s pretty bloody good.

 


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