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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #135 on: September 09, 2020, 09:35:18 AM »
Deano knows what he's doing he's looked at things and got his appropriate striker.
Last season we needed a centre forward to score from all those chances  Grealish created -2nd most in league after KDB.

Ollie Watkins scored  26 goals last season.
Expected goals XG  :25 goals
Watkins outperformed his XG.

Last season Watkins displayed outstanding finishing ability. Scoring every chance expected of him +1! 
In the centre forward role he's shown to take his chances.

So basically if we create chances OW will be expected to score- literally!


Are you sure about that XG stat footy?  I heard the Villa analytics guy off twitter on a podcast a while back and he said Watkins xg last year was 36, so he underperformed.  He spun it as a good thing as it showed ho much more potential to improve he has

36 XG is high ! Maybe they combined the Watkins and Brentford XG together as a measurement?

Thanks for putting up podcast , new one one me, haven't had chance to listen but hope to check it out sometime.

Up the Villa.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #136 on: September 09, 2020, 09:35:47 AM »
The Brentford fans seem to say he works extremely hard, is good in the air and with both feet and has pace.

All sounds very promising.

They also say he went missing when the pressure was on.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #137 on: September 09, 2020, 09:37:37 AM »
Deano knows what he's doing he's looked at things and got his appropriate striker.
Last season we needed a centre forward to score from all those chances  Grealish created -2nd most in league after KDB.

Ollie Watkins scored  26 goals last season.
Expected goals XG  :25 goals
Watkins outperformed his XG.

Last season Watkins displayed outstanding finishing ability. Scoring every chance expected of him +1! 
In the centre forward role he's shown to take his chances.

So basically if we create chances OW will be expected to score- literally!


Are you sure about that XG stat footy?  I heard the Villa analytics guy off twitter on a podcast a while back and he said Watkins xg last year was 36, so he underperformed.  He spun it as a good thing as it showed ho much more potential to improve he has

36 XG is high ! Maybe they combined the Watkins and Brentford XG together as a measurement?

Thanks for putting up podcast , new one one me, haven't had chance to listen but hope to check it out sometime.

Up the Villa.

He does say different agencies count the chances differently on XG and 36 was one of the higher ones.  Either way, he was really positive about him, as am I.  Villa Analytics is well worth following on Twitter - he'd be right up your street footy.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2020, 09:45:49 AM »
Has he been spotted at the Belfry yet?

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #139 on: September 09, 2020, 09:54:12 AM »
I just wonder if he's got the all round game to be a success in the Premier League.  I've not seen lots of him play, but from the video of all his goals last season, 90% of them seem to be tap ins from good work from the rest of the Brentford team, against some dodgy Championship defending.  We've had our fingers burnt buying a Brentford player who just scored tap ins in the past, so is this going to be different?  Please tell me it is!

Yes I think he can be more success than Hogan.
What's super is he's both footed can strike goals with either foot.

Do also check out his goalscoring exploits for Exeter too
1 min 28 the goal v Plymouth 2016 very special and my favourite! Some other very good ones

https://youtu.be/gvRRHpc31jg

His goals are very varied and with both feet .
Not all high XG as he scored a few from distance.
Yes hiis amount of goals were scored last season on a plate though he has shown he finishes chances and underlying stats are good as a central striker.


Plays all the front 3 positions and hoping Dean can progress him further.
He's better than Hogan I think.

I hope you enjoy the Exeter goals.


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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #140 on: September 09, 2020, 09:55:10 AM »
Best of luck Ollie just score lots - if we can create chances for you?

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #141 on: September 09, 2020, 09:56:17 AM »
His work rate alone is ten times better than hogans

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #142 on: September 09, 2020, 09:56:39 AM »
I watched his goals video and thought 'Hogan 2.0' - adds nothing except decent positioning in the box. Then I watched another video where his all round play was highlighted and he was scoring in and outside the box, with both feet and his head. He was also very quick and carried the ball very well on long runs, so I think he's got a lot more than Hogan and indeed Maupay. He seems to have the confidence to hit a ball early as well, which is great - it'll just be about how he deals with the pressure. On the whole I'm pleased, think he will come good and will certainly press teams back in the way that Gabby used to. I'm not overly worried about the price - he will probably be here 3 years at least. Good luck!

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #143 on: September 09, 2020, 10:17:30 AM »
Talking about Championship strikers making the step-up to the Premiership yesterday, I realised i didn't actually know apart from assumptions so i thought i'd have a look. This is 4 seasons worth (obviously doesn't include last season), and is not meant to prove a point either way in relation to Watkins, just found it interesting

Championship forwards who scored over 20 goals in a season  16

Not played in the Premiership - 3

Of the rest.


Number who have scored 15 or over in the Premiership since - 1 or 7.7%

Number who scored 10 or over in premiership since -  5 or 38.4%


No prizes for guessing who the 1 is

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #144 on: September 09, 2020, 10:34:08 AM »
Gregg Evans reporting that his medical is complete.

https://twitter.com/greggevans40/status/1303625397570019332?s=20

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #145 on: September 09, 2020, 10:46:56 AM »
Athletic also reporting Spurs were in for him apparantly:

The Athletic: Tottenham were Villa’s main rivals for Watkins. He was open to the move and confident he would have enjoyed plenty of game time across numerous competitions. However, Spurs were not in a position to move quickly because of the finances involved.

https://twitter.com/thespursweb/status/1303628388075266053?s=20


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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #146 on: September 09, 2020, 10:48:59 AM »
Hence why Spurs fans are pissed off that they can't do a deal like this.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #147 on: September 09, 2020, 10:49:05 AM »
Going back to the whole price debate I love how no one takes notice of some other high profile costly signings that so far have been dare I say it all f and no s.  Arsenal paid £72m for Pepe for the grand total of five goals.  He might come good.  But at over double what we are paying for Watkins you'd think that would be a must!  Everton as well - that Keane bloke - 30m EUR including add ons.  Missed an open goal didn't he last year. 

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #148 on: September 09, 2020, 10:50:35 AM »
Gregg Evans reporting that his medical is complete.

https://twitter.com/greggevans40/status/1303625397570019332?s=20

Nice one Chris!
Always find Evans has a bit of ITK about him .
More reliable than most.
I've deemed that him and Percy are the go to on any Villa deals. DT Percy I learnt from H & V to be reliable.
Pat Murphy BBC use to have good offerings too.
And Regan on WM has some knowledge I think ? But the
rest of them like Matt Law and Alan Nixon are a mixed bunch when it comes to any villa info and are as hit as they are miss.

Outside of purely Villa related Fabrizio Romano is on the money with his ITK for many transfers !

Don't know if anyone else has any recommendations but haven't seen many other sources as good as Gregg Evans and Jon Percy for ITKs


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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #149 on: September 09, 2020, 10:57:52 AM »
So medical passed then. I'm excited by this one. Best wishes Ollie. Stan would be very proud.

 


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