Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[aj2k77]

As for Davis, there isn't a single club in the top division who would play a Striker who hasn't scored in 2 years.

There demonstrably is because he played.

Don't be a dick.

[robbo1874]

whatever way you look at it, Smith has failed with his striker purchases

Wesley - jury out at best, not sure if he'll adapt
Samatta  - just looked awful
Davis - probably the most worrying one. How anyone could think he's a striker is beyond me

How is Davis one of Smith's striker purchases? He's been at the club for 5 years.

I know.  I meant selecting him as a premiership striker. you can't mention last seasons striker woes without pointing out that he thought Davis could do a job.

He did do a job. Held the ball up well and brought others into play. I can’t for the life of me understand the negativity towards Davis. He’s a young kid with very little experience at the top level yet everyone on here seems to want to crucify him at every turn.

i think if we had 2 up top that would suit him a lot better. I see him as a kind of Heskey type player, where if he was partnered with a nippy little fkr, they’d get a few goals between them. Depends how he’s used I reckon. If we’re going the lone attacker, he’s not the man for the job, bit in a different system he carries a decent threat.

[SheffieldVillain]

For what it's worth (probably not a lot) Nixon said today that:
1. Eduoard is still a live target.
2. Our top target hasn't really come out in the press but is still possible.

Nixon talks shit. A hidden top target that may be possible. You can't get anymore vague and back covering than that.

My ITK tells me that we will sign someone that wasn't thought about, for a decent fee, in September and he'll be in a position we see as key.

I know, hence I said"for what it's worth (probably not a lot)". But since it's a speculation thread for positive made-up Twitter bollocks as well as negative, I thought I'd post it anyway. 

[paul_e]

Ok, so the only name you can give is a guy who's being linked with Spurs (meaning we'd be competing with a team that are higher in the pecking order than us) who's 25 (so not in the age range you gave), has played less than 50 games in 'a top league in europe' and who's scored the majority of his goals in ligue 2.

Quite funny that you've completely ignored your own criteria as soon as you name someone.

[Toronto Villa]

We need a proven Premier League goal scorer and we just seem to be pissing about.

How are you defining a proven PL goal scorer and of those who would be available? How many goals would that player have to have scored to be deemed proven? And what’s the maximum age? Proven PL of genuine, and most importantly consistent quality will be ludicrously expensive.

[VillaBoy_23]

whatever way you look at it, Smith has failed with his striker purchases

Wesley - jury out at best, not sure if he'll adapt
Samatta  - just looked awful
Davis - probably the most worrying one. How anyone could think he's a striker is beyond me

How is Davis one of Smith's striker purchases? He's been at the club for 5 years.

I know.  I meant selecting him as a premiership striker. you can't mention last seasons striker woes without pointing out that he thought Davis could do a job.

He did do a job. Held the ball up well and brought others into play. I can’t for the life of me understand the negativity towards Davis. He’s a young kid with very little experience at the top level yet everyone on here seems to want to crucify him at every turn.

i think if we had 2 up top that would suit him a lot better. I see him as a kind of Heskey type player, where if he was partnered with a nippy little fkr, they’d get a few goals between them. Depends how he’s used I reckon. If we’re going the lone attacker, he’s not the man for the job, bit in a different system he carries a decent threat.

I agree and like I said I don’t think he should be an automatic starter but cut the kid some slack. We have a very odd element of our support who just look to tear down our players and management at every turn.

[Lastfootstamper]

Wilson would rather play for a potato. All the best to him with that.

Get your finger out, Villa. Far too much fannying about.

Scant consolation, but spurs fans seem even more disappointed with this news than H&V.

[pauliewalnuts]

Off the top of my head he was unlucky not to score against Sheffield United and Arsenal. He offered infinitely more than Samatta (another player who people on here have written off after a dozen games).

He fluffed a great chance against Arsenal

A weak shot at the keeper.

How is that unlucky, and how conceptually does pointing out missed chances further the argument that he actually does know how to score at this level?

[VillaBoy_23]

Off the top of my head he was unlucky not to score against Sheffield United and Arsenal. He offered infinitely more than Samatta (another player who people on here have written off after a dozen games).

He fluffed a great chance against Arsenal

A weak shot at the keeper.

How is that unlucky, and how conceptually does pointing out missed chances further the argument that he actually does know how to score at this level?

I thought he was unlucky when he stuck it past the post after Grealish put him through.

I never once said he knows how to score at this level. What I did do is say cut him some slack. Not everyone is going to the second coming of Peter Withe.

[pauliewalnuts]

re Samatta - he too looks underwhelming but he's Gerd Muller compared to KD.

I've actually seen Samatta score. I struggle to recall KD having shots let alone scoring.

This attitude of sticking our heads in the sand and pretending players like that are ever going to be good enough at this level is precisely the reason pretty soon we won't be playing at this level.

If he played for Blues, we'd be taking the piss out of them

[sickbeggar]

Ok, so the only name you can give is a guy who's being linked with Spurs (meaning we'd be competing with a team that are higher in the pecking order than us) who's 25 (so not in the age range you gave), has played less than 50 games in 'a top league in europe' and who's scored the majority of his goals in ligue 2.

Quite funny that you've completely ignored your own criteria as soon as you name someone.

Spurs can't afford him yet, and he'd only be back up for kane anyway, hence not costing a fortune. Its not the only name,  it was one example of a youngish striker in comparison to watkins.. If you want strikers in their late 20/ early30's who are at smallish clubs in spain/italy and  probablyavailable for the same price as wilson, there's a lot of them around as well. just have a look, i'm not gonna go through them all...

[pauliewalnuts]

re Samatta - he too looks underwhelming but he's Gerd Muller compared to KD.

I've actually seen Samatta score. I struggle to recall KD having shots let alone scoring.

This attitude of sticking our heads in the sand and pretending players like that are ever going to be good enough at this level is precisely the reason pretty soon we won't be playing at this level.

If he played for Blues, we'd be taking the piss out of them

Off the top of my head he was unlucky not to score against Sheffield United and Arsenal. He offered infinitely more than Samatta (another player who people on here have written off after a dozen games).

He fluffed a great chance against Arsenal

A weak shot at the keeper.

How is that unlucky, and how conceptually does pointing out missed chances further the argument that he actually does know how to score at this level?

I thought he was unlucky when he stuck it past the post after Grealish put him through.

I never once said he knows how to score at this level. What I did do is say cut him some slack. Not everyone is going to the second coming of Peter Withe.

Nobody is expecting the second coming of Peter withe

I don't think it's beyond reasonable to expect a striker to occasionally score or at least have shots on goal regularly - he has failed to do that in the championship and the premier league.

[Ads]

What bet? Have you been at Sexual Ealings Garys?

Ha! You're not going to get much take-up for scouse rhyming slang on here!

Ah...The penny may have dropped. Is the translation Gary Abletts? Tablets?

Correct. Although that's commonly associated with ecstasy, whereas I referenced microdots in a thread in Off Topic, and they're LSD in pill form. Once again Ads was displaying the Tory characteristic of being out of touch with honest (non) working people like me. Wink, obviously.

My butler buys all my drugs.

[paul_e]

Ok, so the only name you can give is a guy who's being linked with Spurs (meaning we'd be competing with a team that are higher in the pecking order than us) who's 25 (so not in the age range you gave), has played less than 50 games in 'a top league in europe' and who's scored the majority of his goals in ligue 2.

Quite funny that you've completely ignored your own criteria as soon as you name someone.

Spurs can't afford him yet, and he'd only be back up for kane anyway, hence not costing a fortune. Its not the only name,  it was one example of a youngish striker in comparison to watkins.. If you want strikers in their late 20/ early30's who are at smallish clubs in spain/italy and  probablyavailable for the same price as wilson, there's a lot of them around as well. just have a look, i'm not gonna go through them all...

I'm not going threough a list of players to prove you right, you keep making the same point but can't give an example of who you actually want.

[hilts_coolerking]

Ok, so the only name you can give is a guy who's being linked with Spurs (meaning we'd be competing with a team that are higher in the pecking order than us) who's 25 (so not in the age range you gave), has played less than 50 games in 'a top league in europe' and who's scored the majority of his goals in ligue 2.

Quite funny that you've completely ignored your own criteria as soon as you name someone.

Spurs can't afford him yet, and he'd only be back up for kane anyway, hence not costing a fortune. Its not the only name,  it was one example of a youngish striker in comparison to watkins.. If you want strikers in their late 20/ early30's who are at smallish clubs in spain/italy and  probablyavailable for the same price as wilson, there's a lot of them around as well. just have a look, i'm not gonna go through them all...

I'm not going threough a list of players to prove you right, you keep making the same point but can't give an example of who you actually want.

What does that prove?  That there aren't any or that a bloke with no scouting network can't name any?