Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[Toronto Villa]

He looked liked scoring plenty of times? What games were you watching? And if he actually looked like scoring plenty of times and didn’t it’s an even bigger indictment as he has precisely ZERO goals.

[Jon Crofts]

We need a proven Premier League goal scorer and we just seem to be pissing about.

[villa for life]

Personally, I think Davis is a real asset.

How many times are we going to sell or ditch our players before they’ve reached their peak or forget peak, let’s just solid premiership players

Cahill
Albrighton
Stevens
Bardsley
Stevens
That guy at wolves who’s now worth 100 million!
Crouch

Just give our players a chance. Patience and loyalty will be rewarded

Even Dwight Yorke looked very average at the start of his career.

[paul_e]

There's plenty of options once you get around the 30 mark. They're not gonna excite anyone, and we're not building a team round them, but having a bit experience in the squad has gotta be a step up from the likes of Lansbury

assuming the budget’s around 100m - we don’t know, but that’s the commonly accepted amount, we’ve spent 16m already and looking for a keeper around the 10m mark. If you add in Edourd or Tammy say for around 40-50m (plus wages) that leaves you one other player in the 30m range. Who would you get in from the loads of other options?

well the sort of players i'm talking about aren't gonna cost 30m. We talking guys on 2 year contract max. solid premiership or foreign pros. i'm thinking signings like Cahill just to steady the ship while players get experience. At the top end of the market i wouldn't have a problem with us paying 20m for a guy who was 28/29/30 like Wilson with a limited shelf life and no sell-on if it allowed the younger talent time to adapt and find their feet.

Who are these players, give some names because you've talked about them as if there are loads just waiting for the phone call. Who is the 28-30year old winger with pace, a good cross and a few goals in him that we can pick up for £20m or less? How about the midfielder we need?

there's loads out there. I had this last night when i pointed out you could get a top divison striker abroad for 40-50m and one in his 30's for probably under 20m. jesus, newcastle  have just  got wilson after all.

Then give some names of players so we can see who you mean and how realistic they actually are.

[sickbeggar]

whatever way you look at it, Smith has failed with his striker purchases

Wesley - jury out at best, not sure if he'll adapt
Samatta  - just looked awful
Davis - probably the most worrying one. How anyone could think he's a striker is beyond me

How is Davis one of Smith's striker purchases? He's been at the club for 5 years.

I know.  I meant selecting him as a premiership striker. you can't mention last seasons striker woes without pointing out that he thought Davis could do a job.

He did do a job. Held the ball up well and brought others into play. I can’t for the life of me understand the negativity towards Davis. He’s a young kid with very little experience at the top level yet everyone on here seems to want to crucify him at every turn.

He didn't do a job. He can't score. I'm not a Davis hater and he does good things when he plays but he will never ever be a striker and Smith has damaged him playing there. He couldn't score in the championship and he can't score in the premiership and he'll never be more than a trier as a forward.

[VillaBoy_23]

Off the top of my head he was unlucky not to score against Sheffield United and Arsenal. He offered infinitely more than Samatta (another player who people on here have written off after a dozen games).

[Axl Rose]

Wilson would rather play for a potato. All the best to him with that.

Get your finger out, Villa. Far too much fannying about.

[aj2k77]

No chance, we'll flop back to Watkins with a bigger bid needed and more competition now. He's had no match practice and should we get him won't be up to speed for a month. Purslow, assuming he's doing the deals is doing very poor. 3 windows on the trot with massive failings.

Massive failings? Blimey.

£140m spent and El Ghazi playing as lone striker. Blimey.

This bears repeating because so many people seem to forget - when we came up we had a usable first team squad of about 10 players. We could have spent 200 million last year and we would still have had gaps, that was never going to be cured in one window, especially when we are not allowed by FFP to spend massively beyond our means.

We are near the end of the 3rd window. Purslow doesn’t to me seem the guy who is going to make the moves we need to make. Time will tell but the warning bells are clanging. If you choose to ignore them, that’s your right to do so

The window is open until 5th October - we’re not even halfway through it.

We're 6 weeks in and have 4 weeks to go. We're past half way.

The season starts next week, ours the week after. We don't have all the time in the world and we most certainly aren't less than halfway through. We have players that would need getting up to speed when signed. They'll need to be integrated. We most certainly aren't as prepared as we should be approaching key games in October. We saw for ourselves how every point counts last season. Every goal. The closer we leave it to the season starting the less and less likely it is we will sign quality players and they'll need replacing by other clubs. It will be plan c and d signings.

It's all very poor. Suso carried the can for last season, anyone thinking it was a succesfull season with £150m spent and survival on the last day, well they must have some sympathy for someone who lost his job for the results of it.

[SheffieldVillain]

For what it's worth (probably not a lot) Nixon said today that:
1. Eduoard is still a live target.
2. Our top target hasn't really come out in the press but is still possible.

[aj2k77]

As for Davis, there isn't a single club in the top division who would play a Striker who hasn't scored in 2 years.

[Diablo]

Ah...The penny may have dropped. Is the translation Gary Abletts? Tablets?

You could be onto something given the context. I thought it was tea and biscuits (Darjeeling and Garibaldis).

That's a blast from the past! It's been a long time since I had a Garibaldi.

[aj2k77]

For what it's worth (probably not a lot) Nixon said today that:
1. Eduoard is still a live target.
2. Our top target hasn't really come out in the press but is still possible.

Nixon talks shit. A hidden top target that may be possible. You can't get anymore vague and back covering than that.

My ITK tells me that we will sign someone that wasn't thought about, for a decent fee, in September and he'll be in a position we see as key.

[edgysatsuma89]

Ah...The penny may have dropped. Is the translation Gary Abletts? Tablets?

You could be onto something given the context. I thought it was tea and biscuits (Darjeeling and Garibaldis).

That's a blast from the past! It's been a long time since I had a Garibaldi.

I've never seen a garibaldi let alone tasted one yet I hear it mentioned occasionally. What's it similar to?

I preferred us with Davies on the pitch than Samatta. That says more about Samatta though.

[paul_e]

As for Davis, there isn't a single club in the top division who would play a Striker who hasn't scored in 2 years.

There demonstrably is because he played.

[sickbeggar]

There's plenty of options once you get around the 30 mark. They're not gonna excite anyone, and we're not building a team round them, but having a bit experience in the squad has gotta be a step up from the likes of Lansbury

assuming the budget’s around 100m - we don’t know, but that’s the commonly accepted amount, we’ve spent 16m already and looking for a keeper around the 10m mark. If you add in Edourd or Tammy say for around 40-50m (plus wages) that leaves you one other player in the 30m range. Who would you get in from the loads of other options?

well the sort of players i'm talking about aren't gonna cost 30m. We talking guys on 2 year contract max. solid premiership or foreign pros. i'm thinking signings like Cahill just to steady the ship while players get experience. At the top end of the market i wouldn't have a problem with us paying 20m for a guy who was 28/29/30 like Wilson with a limited shelf life and no sell-on if it allowed the younger talent time to adapt and find their feet.

Who are these players, give some names because you've talked about them as if there are loads just waiting for the phone call. Who is the 28-30year old winger with pace, a good cross and a few goals in him that we can pick up for £20m or less? How about the midfielder we need?

there's loads out there. I had this last night when i pointed out you could get a top divison striker abroad for 40-50m and one in his 30's for probably under 20m. jesus, newcastle  have just  got wilson after all.

Then give some names of players so we can see who you mean and how realistic they actually are.

well i'm not gonna go through every top league in europe but an example of a more expensive striker gettable imo. Diallo plays for metz in france. 25 years old, 12 goals in 26 games in their truncated season.  Spurs looking at him now