Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[SheffieldVillain]

Summer 2019 - 1 senior striker and a raft of Belgian and other mid tier league gambles.

Plus Heaton, Guilbert, Konsa and Luiz who are all decent additions. Which is why Ads suggested it was "mixed, just not buying another striker fucked us up."

hang on, we signed Borja Baston too....

Not in that window.

[N'ZMAV]

Summer 2019 - 1 senior striker and a raft of Belgian and other mid tier league gambles.

Plus Heaton, Guilbert, Konsa and Luiz who are all decent additions. Which is why Ads suggested it was "mixed, just not buying another striker fucked us up."

hang on, we signed Borja Baston too....

Not in that window.

shouldn't have been in any window tbh.

[sickbeggar]

whatever way you look at it, Smith has failed with his striker purchases

Wesley - jury out at best, not sure if he'll adapt
Samatta  - just looked awful
Davis - probably the most worrying one. How anyone could think he's a striker is beyond me

How is Davis one of Smith's striker purchases? He's been at the club for 5 years.

I know.  I meant selecting him as a premiership striker. you can't mention last seasons striker woes without pointing out that he thought Davis could do a job.

[ROBBO]

I wonder what Jacks thinking now?

[Clampy]

Since the new owners have been here, we've been promoted, reached a cup final and stayed up. I'd have taken that but hey, we made a few mid table gambles.

[paul_e]

There's plenty of options once you get around the 30 mark. They're not gonna excite anyone, and we're not building a team round them, but having a bit experience in the squad has gotta be a step up from the likes of Lansbury

assuming the budget’s around 100m - we don’t know, but that’s the commonly accepted amount, we’ve spent 16m already and looking for a keeper around the 10m mark. If you add in Edourd or Tammy say for around 40-50m (plus wages) that leaves you one other player in the 30m range. Who would you get in from the loads of other options?

well the sort of players i'm talking about aren't gonna cost 30m. We talking guys on 2 year contract max. solid premiership or foreign pros. i'm thinking signings like Cahill just to steady the ship while players get experience. At the top end of the market i wouldn't have a problem with us paying 20m for a guy who was 28/29/30 like Wilson with a limited shelf life and no sell-on if it allowed the younger talent time to adapt and find their feet.

Who are these players, give some names because you've talked about them as if there are loads just waiting for the phone call. Who is the 28-30year old winger with pace, a good cross and a few goals in him that we can pick up for £20m or less? How about the midfielder we need?

[Ads]

I don't think it's a wild opinion to hold that Smith would have wanted another striker. He wanted Maupay and I believe he wantes him and Wesley but in the end, we cut our cloth accordingly.

Its no surprise we've identified a new front 3 as a priority given 6 goals is all our strikers managed last season and bar Trez picking some form at a crucial time, it seems critical that we reinforce.

Watkins is a gamble like any other signing, but not a significant one. I hope we make that happen and think we probably will this week.

[Diablo]

What bet? Have you been at Sexual Ealings Garys?

Ha! You're not going to get much take-up for scouse rhyming slang on here!

Ah...The penny may have dropped. Is the translation Gary Abletts? Tablets?

I know my audience SE!

Look at Diablo playing the "ooooh is that what it meant?" "Innocent" card. Nice try Diablo, nice try.

Haha! I'll have a pint and 2 vowels please Ads.

[Sexual Ealing]

What bet? Have you been at Sexual Ealings Garys?

Ha! You're not going to get much take-up for scouse rhyming slang on here!

Ah...The penny may have dropped. Is the translation Gary Abletts? Tablets?

Correct. Although that's commonly associated with ecstasy, whereas I referenced microdots in a thread in Off Topic, and they're LSD in pill form. Once again Ads was displaying the Tory characteristic of being out of touch with honest (non) working people like me. Wink, obviously.

[robbo1874]

They're all much of a shiteness. Wesley has room to improve but isn't an out and out forward. Samatta's all round game is garbage, Vassiliev I don't think is a striker either and Keenan hasn't scored in 2 years and couldn't finish a yoghurt.

I'd keep Wesley because no one's touching a player back from a long term injury unless it's for peanuts. Samatta and Davis are crap and I'd sell in a heart beat if we were capable of getting in anyone half decent without it taking 6 weeks and Vassiliev is one above my knowledge of the younger players.

i pretty much agree bar your assessment of Davis. Wes I think we have to stick with, big (ish) money signing, did OK and looked to be improving then a bad injury. I think we have to see how he does when he comes back. You’re right, no one will want to pay anywhere near what we paid for him because of the injury in this window.

Samatta, Just not good enough. Glimmer of hope, the first few games, but overall pretty poor.

Vassilev- we don’t know much about. I’d be tempted to sell if we got a half/decent bid. Haven’t seen enough to judge him, but do seem to remember he did OK without setting the world alight when he’s come on late on in games.

Davis- makes me laugh all the hate he gets. But I reckon a decent pre-season and couple of early goals in the next Prem season could see him kick on. I get people kind of take the. Piss out of him, but I reckon he’ll come good.

[VillaBoy_23]

whatever way you look at it, Smith has failed with his striker purchases

Wesley - jury out at best, not sure if he'll adapt
Samatta  - just looked awful
Davis - probably the most worrying one. How anyone could think he's a striker is beyond me

How is Davis one of Smith's striker purchases? He's been at the club for 5 years.

I know.  I meant selecting him as a premiership striker. you can't mention last seasons striker woes without pointing out that he thought Davis could do a job.

He did do a job. Held the ball up well and brought others into play. I can’t for the life of me understand the negativity towards Davis. He’s a young kid with very little experience at the top level yet everyone on here seems to want to crucify him at every turn.

[Toronto Villa]

I don't think it's a wild opinion to hold that Smith would have wanted another striker. He wanted Maupay and I believe he wantes him and Wesley but in the end, we cut our cloth accordingly.

Its no surprise we've identified a new front 3 as a priority given 6 goals is all our strikers managed last season and bar Trez picking some form at a crucial time, it seems critical that we reinforce.

Watkins is a gamble like any other signing, but not a significant one. I hope we make that happen and think we probably will this week.

Those Brentford players have been left out of games for a reason. I have no doubt neither will be with them this season. Like you I think Watkins will be with us and I’m reasonably confident about Benrahma too. That one is oddly quiet. I don’t blame Brentford one bit for wanting the most money possible. I don’t blame us one bit for trying to get the best deal for us.

[sickbeggar]

There's plenty of options once you get around the 30 mark. They're not gonna excite anyone, and we're not building a team round them, but having a bit experience in the squad has gotta be a step up from the likes of Lansbury

assuming the budget’s around 100m - we don’t know, but that’s the commonly accepted amount, we’ve spent 16m already and looking for a keeper around the 10m mark. If you add in Edourd or Tammy say for around 40-50m (plus wages) that leaves you one other player in the 30m range. Who would you get in from the loads of other options?

well the sort of players i'm talking about aren't gonna cost 30m. We talking guys on 2 year contract max. solid premiership or foreign pros. i'm thinking signings like Cahill just to steady the ship while players get experience. At the top end of the market i wouldn't have a problem with us paying 20m for a guy who was 28/29/30 like Wilson with a limited shelf life and no sell-on if it allowed the younger talent time to adapt and find their feet.

Who are these players, give some names because you've talked about them as if there are loads just waiting for the phone call. Who is the 28-30year old winger with pace, a good cross and a few goals in him that we can pick up for £20m or less? How about the midfielder we need?

there's loads out there. I had this last night when i pointed out you could get a top divison striker abroad for 40-50m and one in his 30's for probably under 20m. jesus, newcastle  have just  got wilson after all.

[hilts_coolerking]

He did do a job. Held the ball up well and brought others into play. I can’t for the life of me understand the negativity towards Davis. He’s a young kid with very little experience at the top level yet everyone on here seems to want to crucify him at every turn.

You can't understand the negativity towards a striker who never scores?  And not just never scores, but never looks like scoring?  Of course people are going to be negative about that: it's a massive flaw in his game.

[VillaBoy_23]

He did do a job. Held the ball up well and brought others into play. I can’t for the life of me understand the negativity towards Davis. He’s a young kid with very little experience at the top level yet everyone on here seems to want to crucify him at every turn.

You can't understand the negativity towards a striker who never scores?  And not just never scores, but never looks like scoring?  Of course people are going to be negative about that: it's a massive flaw in his game.

He looked like scoring plenty of times and was unlucky with his finishing (especially that Arsenal chance). I’m not saying he should be an automatic starter but people in here have a strange knack of wanting to tear every individual down if they don’t perform like Messi instantly.