Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread

[Lastfootstamper]

If Wilson goes to Newcastle I'd happy have Dwight Gayle - he's no world beater - but he knows where the net is.

If we'd gone down, I'd have agreed, he's scored 36 in 61 in the Championship. But 25 PL goals in 119 appearances over 5 seasons suggest that at this level, knowing where it is and putting the ball in it aren't the same thing. And he turns 31 next month.

[Pat Mustard]

Concerns remain. The words don’t match the actions and, as Villa fans that’s been the case with too many owners in the last couple decades.

If the owners were serious as they said, we would not have windows like this - we would do business cleanly and like others have done, pay up for the players we want. Even if we get 2-3 in the remainder of the window, they will take time to gain match fitness and acclimate to Deans team and style.

We are going into a season with all the frailties and gaps (chasms up front) that we did last year. If they cannot see that then we should be very very concerned about our direction. And if they do but don’t seem able to splash the cash then our expectations have been mismanaged.

Bit sick and tired of it all - this is a defining season for us and we must kick on - yet we have signed a good Championship RB to date.

WTF is going on?!?!?

What’s going on is exactly what the club have needed to in the last 15 years - working to a plan on signing players where we don’t get our pants pulled down every time. The mess of the last 10 years was completely down to managers and owners who paid way over the odds for average players with no re-sale value. Added to the fact that FFP means you can’t just randomly spend your way out of trouble, and we have to make sure every penny we spend counts.

I just can’t believe the number of posters who seem happy for us to spend way more than players are worth just so we get them in now. Behave like that and other clubs see us as a soft touch, and we will never build any kind of sustained improvement.

[sickbeggar]

There's plenty of options once you get around the 30 mark. They're not gonna excite anyone, and we're not building a team round them, but having a bit experience in the squad has gotta be a step up from the likes of Lansbury

assuming the budget’s around 100m - we don’t know, but that’s the commonly accepted amount, we’ve spent 16m already and looking for a keeper around the 10m mark. If you add in Edourd or Tammy say for around 40-50m (plus wages) that leaves you one other player in the 30m range. Who would you get in from the loads of other options?

well the sort of players i'm talking about aren't gonna cost 30m. We talking guys on 2 year contract max. solid premiership or foreign pros. i'm thinking signings like Cahill just to steady the ship while players get experience. At the top end of the market i wouldn't have a problem with us paying 20m for a guy who was 28/29/30 like Wilson with a limited shelf life and no sell-on if it allowed the younger talent time to adapt and find their feet.

[sickbeggar]

well building a successful team just from talented lower league players is like the holy grail of the premiership. - if it could be done with any measure of success everyone would do it.  We've already tried it ourselves before and it didn't work out too well.

You said it can't be done. It appears two clubs tried it last and one was very successful with it, the other finished rock bottom.

Don't get your knickers in a twist over evidence that goes against your opinion.

heheheh what evidence? Loads of clubs have done it for a year or 2. The problem lies in repeating the feat and they always end up back where they came from.

[aj2k77]

No chance, we'll flop back to Watkins with a bigger bid needed and more competition now. He's had no match practice and should we get him won't be up to speed for a month. Purslow, assuming he's doing the deals is doing very poor. 3 windows on the trot with massive failings.

Massive failings? Blimey.

£140m spent and El Ghazi playing as lone striker. Blimey.

[Ads]

well building a successful team just from talented lower league players is like the holy grail of the premiership. - if it could be done with any measure of success everyone would do it.  We've already tried it ourselves before and it didn't work out too well.

You said it can't be done. It appears two clubs tried it last and one was very successful with it, the other finished rock bottom.

Don't get your knickers in a twist over evidence that goes against your opinion.

heheheh what evidence? Loads of clubs have done it for a year or 2. The problem lies in repeating the feat and they always end up back where they came from.

Sheffield United. I generously added Norwich to that, but they didn't really try to strengthen. Burnley are another example.

[Risso]

No chance, we'll flop back to Watkins with a bigger bid needed and more competition now. He's had no match practice and should we get him won't be up to speed for a month. Purslow, assuming he's doing the deals is doing very poor. 3 windows on the trot with massive failings.

Massive failings? Blimey.

Well the first two certainly were.  The jury is out on this one so far, but it's not looking too clever at the moment.

[sickbeggar]

well building a successful team just from talented lower league players is like the holy grail of the premiership. - if it could be done with any measure of success everyone would do it.  We've already tried it ourselves before and it didn't work out too well.

You said it can't be done. It appears two clubs tried it last and one was very successful with it, the other finished rock bottom.

Don't get your knickers in a twist over evidence that goes against your opinion.

heheheh what evidence? Loads of clubs have done it for a year or 2. The problem lies in repeating the feat and they always end up back where they came from.

Sheffield United. I generously added Norwich to that, but they didn't really try to strengthen. Burnley are another example.

well i'm sure you'll find someone who will to take your bet that sheffield united will still be in the premiership in 5 years time. And Burnley for that matter

[Ads]

What bet? Have you been at Sexual Ealings Garys?

[Pat Mustard]

No chance, we'll flop back to Watkins with a bigger bid needed and more competition now. He's had no match practice and should we get him won't be up to speed for a month. Purslow, assuming he's doing the deals is doing very poor. 3 windows on the trot with massive failings.

Massive failings? Blimey.

£140m spent and El Ghazi playing as lone striker. Blimey.

This bears repeating because so many people seem to forget - when we came up we had a usable first team squad of about 10 players. We could have spent 200 million last year and we would still have had gaps, that was never going to be cured in one window, especially when we are not allowed by FFP to spend massively beyond our means.

[N'ZMAV]

I mean who's played most premierships games for us? Elmo?

Tom Heaton and Jack Grealish at a guess.

Neil Taylor for the outfield players.

[aj2k77]

We all know the squad failings. It doesn't detract from the fact we had 1 Striker. It was pointed out by all and sundry on here that it was an accident waiting to happen and exceptionally poor planning to only have 1 senior Striker. We doubled down on that in the January window by having months to prepare a replacement and turfing up Samatta.

[robbo1874]

Also, if we did get a top player like Tammy or Edouard, we’d have to get rid of 1-2 from Wes, ally, Keenan and Vassiliev. Who gets the chop?

[N'ZMAV]

how the fuck we managed to stay up with those strikers is beyond me - they're as bad as any set of forwards in the Premier League's recent history

[Sexual Ealing]

What bet? Have you been at Sexual Ealings Garys?

Ha! You're not going to get much take-up for scouse rhyming slang on here!