VAR

[ez]

I absolutely don't want VAR scrapping. Everyone thought refs were bent before anyway and it was much worse than it is now. It will just lead to the "big" teams getting even more of the decisions. As mentioned, it is integral to our high line, it's just how we play. That would be all fucked. Unless this is separate to the new Semi-Automated Offsides?

Agree. Also those two handball goals at west ham and the push in the build up to chelsea putting the ball in the net to make it 2-3. The referee was giving those goals.

[Flamingo Lane]

The purpose and the role of offside in the rules of football was never such as to require decisions to be based on the width of a toenail. I'd scrap VAR tomorrow, if it were possible.

[Nev]

It's not about us but the game as a whole and watching is now a much poorer experience.

It's just another level of human error, rank incompetence and bias.

Apology after apology to clubs, inconsitancies are as, if not more, common now as they were prior to It's introduction. Cursary checks for some infringements, forensic analysis for others, we see the offside lines when it suits them, never hear the conversations and as we saw at Old Trafford, if they want to rule out a goal they'll fucking find a way to do it.

If automated offside is a factual system, like goaline tech then great, otherwise it's subjective, just as refs decision is.

Perhaps we could have a VAR to check the VAR?

[The Edge]

The purpose and the role of offside in the rules of football was never such as to require decisions to be based on the width of a toenail. I'd scrap VAR tomorrow, if it were possible.

I'd rather they just went back to it's original purpose which was to stop clear and obvious errors. Anything tight just stick with the on field decision by the officials. I think the refereeing standard has dropped alarmingly since they've been able to rely on Stockley Park.

[Demitri_C]

Ill only accept var if its like CL version and a rule where if they can't make a decision within 90 seconds the goal stands

This 5 iror 6 minutes really gets on my nerves

[Toronto Villa]

There should definitely be a time limit to make any reviewed decision.

[The Edge]

Giving the 90 seconds still means you take away the spontaneous enjoyment of celebrating a goal. In the old days if it was tight everyone just looked across at the lino for a split second. If they miss a blatant offside everyone usually knows at the ground and wouldn't be surprised to see the var check going up on the screen.

[KRS]

VAR is not the problem…the poor standard of officials, poor implementation and bastardised rules are the actual issues that need addressing. Fix those issues, and bring it more in line with how it’s used in Europe or the World Cup, and VAR will be in a much better place.

If you think it’s bad now, then just imagine how bad it will be when this current crop of officials are solely responsible for onfield, and giving the Sky6 blatantly bias decisions…it would be an absolute clusterfuck from week one.

Be very careful what you wish for.

[Footy-Vill]

The purpose and the role of offside in the rules of football was never such as to require decisions to be based on the width of a toenail. I'd scrap VAR tomorrow, if it were possible.

I'd rather they just went back to it's original purpose which was to stop clear and obvious errors. Anything tight just stick with the on field decision by the officials. I think the refereeing standard has dropped alarmingly since they've been able to rely on Stockley Park.

That's why SAOT is coming in next season

[ChicagoLion]

There should definitely be a time limit to make any reviewed decision.

That would ultimately lead to more wrong decisions.
It’s the parameters that need looking at but ultimately if you have an organisation PGMOL marking it’s own homework it will never work.

[Toronto Villa]

There should definitely be a time limit to make any reviewed decision.

That would ultimately lead to more wrong decisions.
It’s the parameters that need looking at but ultimately if you have an organisation PGMOL marking it’s own homework it will never work.

The refs would be trained to be more efficient. They make mistakes now taking 5 or 6 minutes. The whole intent was to identify clear and obvious errors. It shouldn’t ever take that long with the aid of numerous camera angles to come to that conclusion quickly. The procrastination over the decision is what is killing the game let alone the errors that come along with it.

[Drummond]

I’m torn on this. If used correctly VAR should be a good thing. But it needs changing. They need to sort auto offside, inform the spectators in real time what they are looking at and explain decisions.
I hate the fact that you can’t celebrate a goal properly anymore, but we’ll adapt as fans

I agree with Frank.

[Footy-Vill]

BBC Source
The Premier League’s figures show the number of correct decisions in matches has increased from 82% before VAR was introduced to 96% currently. With semi-automated offside technology due to be introduced early next season, it is felt that figure will increase even further.

[edgysatsuma89]

BBC Source
The Premier League’s figures show the number of correct decisions in matches has increased from 82% before VAR was introduced to 96% currently. With semi-automated offside technology due to be introduced early next season, it is felt that figure will increase even further.

I have no idea how that is calculated but I am definitely in the "be careful what you wish for" camp. There will definitely be more errors without VAR, I guess it's just whether you think that is outweighed by what it takes away from the natural flow of the game. Personally, I'm used to it now. I would rather it was just improved.

[tomd2103]

I’m torn on this. If used correctly VAR should be a good thing. But it needs changing. They need to sort auto offside, inform the spectators in real time what they are looking at and explain decisions.
I hate the fact that you can’t celebrate a goal properly anymore, but we’ll adapt as fans

Agree with this.  It's the way it's being implemented that's the problem.  Just need to simplify it as much as possible and get it to a point where it isn't used as much. 

Offside could be made very simple if it was about the feet.  Draw a line at the last defender's back foot with a wide enough margin for error incorporated and then if any part of an attacker's foot is clearly over that line it's offside.

Similarly with fouls and handballs, make it simple.  The VAR official asks the ref if they have seen an incident and if the answer is yes and they are happy with it then it stays with the decision on the pitch.  VAR only intervenes if the ref hasn't seen it or it is blatantly obvious they have got it wrong.

I'd also make it that VAR could only check for offsides etc. in the act of scoring or directly assisting.  No going back multiple phases of play to check.