Quote from: Clampy on October 21, 2019, 09:39:02 AMI didn't realise until yesterday that there were monitors on the side of the pitch for ref's to look at. It's all a bit shambolic really isn't it?Completely. Apparently they've never been used. They're the Goblin Teasmade of football technology.
I didn't realise until yesterday that there were monitors on the side of the pitch for ref's to look at. It's all a bit shambolic really isn't it?
Goal line technology is great, and has always seemingly worked as intended. I can even live with the reviews of offside decisions, as although they seem overly pernickety, at least it's a black and white decision. I'm in favour of anything that makes the game fairer, but the implementation of the rest of VAR is all wrong, and they're making as many crucial mistakes as an old fashioned human ref, with the added huge downside that the system comes with at a cost of ruining the flow and enjoyment of the game. It should be halted as an experiment until they've sat down and thought things through a lot more thoroughly.As a suggestion, the off field team could continue to look at offsides and handballs in the build up to a goal. Then each team gets one review per half over a contentious decision that leads to a goal. If they ask for a review, the ref then looks at the pitch side monitor with his team. if they're not sure after that, it then goes to the off field team. In our game on Saturday, I don't think Brighton would have even reviewed Conor's goal to be honest, and it would then rightly have stood.
It's the fact that those monitors are there and going completely ignored that makes me worry that the Premier League is fully aware of how shit the experiment is and is happy to go along with it until they can say they tried but it was crap and abandon it. I'll admit that's verging into conspiracy theory territory but everyone can see the problems and yet nothing is being said to address them.
Who makes the decision then as to when a monitor has to be used? Why have the thing there if you're not going to use it?
Quote from: Bren'd on October 21, 2019, 11:38:25 AMWho makes the decision then as to when a monitor has to be used? Why have the thing there if you're not going to use it? They're discussing that very point now on Sky sports News.The refs have been instructed to use it sparingly because of the amount of time it would take. Which interprets to dont use is my guess.
Watching the Grealish highlights on the other thread makes it clear how ludicrous ruling out our first goal was.If there was a foul by Wes in the build-up (which I'd argue there wasn't), once the referee hasn't given it then the play continues. The actual goal comes a good 6 or 7 seconds after the challenge on the goalkeeper, by which time he is fully set to try and make the save. At what point do you say the foul is no longer relevant?
Quote from: Pat Mustard on October 21, 2019, 12:29:53 PMWatching the Grealish highlights on the other thread makes it clear how ludicrous ruling out our first goal was.If there was a foul by Wes in the build-up (which I'd argue there wasn't), once the referee hasn't given it then the play continues. The actual goal comes a good 6 or 7 seconds after the challenge on the goalkeeper, by which time he is fully set to try and make the save. At what point do you say the foul is no longer relevant?Made even worse by the fact that they score from a free kick that was actually a perfectly executed tackle.
I really don't like this VAR I think it's basically shite.