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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1080 on: June 04, 2022, 05:54:54 PM »
All rather unseemly on Twitter with Project B6 leaving Twitter over accusations of racism which all stemmed from a new banner where Ramsey is called Star Boy. I never knew the term Boy was considered a racist insult, you learn something every day but bloody hell some people just cannot see the intent was never to insult.

It wasn't, but as with all such things the loudest noise is coming from the Can't Say Anything These Days corner.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1081 on: June 04, 2022, 05:58:06 PM »
Surely could have thought of something better than Star Boy though. Everyone on Twitter is using this along with 'Generational Talent' and I don't like it.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1082 on: June 04, 2022, 06:23:56 PM »
Too many people get offended by the mildest of things. And often that offence comes from those who aren’t even the “target” of it. Or actually impacted by it. I’ve always said this about racism. As an Indian kid growing up I knew the difference between a joke and what was malicious. When you live it you just know. I don’t want those who don’t live it getting offended on my behalf. Because it dilutes the whole issue create a lot of noise. Which often means the real prejudice is never truly addressed.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1083 on: June 04, 2022, 06:28:06 PM »
All rather unseemly on Twitter with Project B6 leaving Twitter over accusations of racism which all stemmed from a new banner where Ramsey is called Star Boy. I never knew the term Boy was considered a racist insult, you learn something every day but bloody hell some people just cannot see the intent was never to insult.

Can kind of see why the use of ‘boy’ could be viewed in that way. However, to me it seems more condescending that anything.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1084 on: June 04, 2022, 06:35:48 PM »
They could have used "man", surely? He is 21, after all.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1085 on: June 04, 2022, 06:54:56 PM »
But in football terminology you say ‘ the boy can play ‘ even if it is referring to a man

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1086 on: June 04, 2022, 07:40:42 PM »
True, but I was thinking more that "starboy" isn't really a thing anyway, "starman" kinda is.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1087 on: June 04, 2022, 07:42:40 PM »
The star in the banner was the European Cup star rather than the word star for reference.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1088 on: June 04, 2022, 08:04:06 PM »
'Boy' has definite racist connotations, but almost entirely in the context of the southern states of the US, which is why a lot of people wouldn't really pick up on it.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1089 on: June 04, 2022, 08:51:59 PM »
True, but I was thinking more that "starboy" isn't really a thing anyway, "starman" kinda is.

Is JJ a fan of Bowie?

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1090 on: June 04, 2022, 09:08:48 PM »
Feels like the permanently offended will find a reason. To the vast majority the intent is clear and he's loved by all of us. And really is our star boy. Sorry if I've misread the room.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1091 on: June 04, 2022, 09:10:30 PM »
Christ almighty, I was unaware of the kerfuffle, but what a load of old bollocks. Have people really not got anything more meaningful to do with their time?

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1092 on: June 04, 2022, 10:28:30 PM »
Totally agree Risso.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1093 on: June 05, 2022, 12:16:23 AM »
'Boy' has definite racist connotations, but almost entirely in the context of the southern states of the US, which is why a lot of people wouldn't really pick up on it.

In the same way the 'star' boy may be viewed as anti-Semitic? Was 'Uncle Albert' as localism of Uncle Tom? I hope not and doubt it was. Racist scum just aren't that intelligent.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1094 on: June 05, 2022, 09:47:02 AM »
Christ almighty, I was unaware of the kerfuffle, but what a load of old bollocks. Have people really not got anything more meaningful to do with their time?
Apparently not.

 


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