Tyrone Mings

[AV84]

David Beckham was the first time I remember there being any real specification with a player's injury, although I can't now remember which one it was he injured.

[charlatan]

Could also be something to do with the amount of games they play.

There's too much football now.

Players don't get a proper rest any more.

Really? There is a lot more squad rotation and fewer cup replays (even straight to penalties without extra time in the league cup). Perhaps it is played at greater intensity though?

[villadelph]

Did we have this many ACL injuries in the 90's? I only remember a couple.

What's changed? The pitch? The boots? Training?

Gutted for Mings. We're a better team when he's playing

The glutton in the Women's game have been blamed by some on the fact they have to wear mens boots rather then specifically designed ones.

As for ACL for men in the past, I suspect most were just called Knee Injuries rather then specific body parts. I don't remember people stating Gazza had an ACL injury for example.

It was always “done his cruciate” back then. No idea when it became the abbreviated ACL. Probably an Americanism.

When in doubt, blame America!

[Smirker]

David Beckham was the first time I remember there being any real specification with a player's injury, although I can't now remember which one it was he injured.

Metatarsal.

[Somniloquism]

David Beckham was the first time I remember there being any real specification with a player's injury, although I can't now remember which one it was he injured.

Metatarsal instead of just "broke a bone in his foot" or "broken foot".

I beat him to it when I did mine retrieving the ball from behind Kingswinford 6's side wall when it went over during warm it a few months before. Strangely it wasn't the one that went famous.

[coreyfeldman]

Could also be something to do with the amount of games they play.

There's too much football now.

Players don't get a proper rest any more.

Really? There is a lot more squad rotation and fewer cup replays (even straight to penalties without extra time in the league cup). Perhaps it is played at greater intensity though?

There are about 20 times more international games now though and obviously many more European games and more training days too

[danno]

Did we have this many ACL injuries in the 90's? I only remember a couple.

What's changed? The pitch? The boots? Training?

Gutted for Mings. We're a better team when he's playing

The glutton in the Women's game have been blamed by some on the fact they have to wear mens boots rather then specifically designed ones.

As for ACL for men in the past, I suspect most were just called Knee Injuries rather then specific body parts. I don't remember people stating Gazza had an ACL injury for example.

It was always “done his cruciate” back then. No idea when it became the abbreviated ACL. Probably an Americanism.

When in doubt, blame America!

Haha I did just mean using the abbreviation, I think their sports reporting has definitely influenced how football is covered here. So instead of in times past “done his cruciate” it’s now which ligament and with quotes from a specialist estimating a time frame.

[Toronto Villa]

I don’t recall this many long term injuries before the second week of the season ever before. Maybe I’m paying more attention because of our two and more info in general. Now KDB is fucked for months. What an odd and disappointing week.

[usav]

I think the answer in youth and girls/women's football is the sheer number of people playing now compared to 30 years ago.  For example, the average female High School soccer player in the US has a 10% chance of doing her ACL.

I don't know how that translates to numbers in the men's pro game.

[Risso]

I wonder if the rapid change to professionalism in the women's game has had an effect?

[Somniloquism]

Sky Sports had an article on April about women being 6 times more likely then men to suffer them.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/35730/12748748/inside-the-wsl-why-are-acl-injuries-so-common-in-womens-football

As there wasn't more women in the sport, studies need to catch up, however theories put forwards are Boots (as I mentioned above) and another is the hormonal changes to the body during the menstrual cycle as Oestrogen can lead to loser joints when it is higher in the body during week 2.

[Exeter 77]

The first time I remember a specific cruciate ligament injury being reported was Paul Gascoigne after he fouled Gary Charles in the 1991 Cup Final.

[Somniloquism]

The first time I remember a specific cruciate ligament injury being reported was Paul Gascoigne after he fouled Gary Charles in the 1991 Cup Final.

Even then (and even recently when some reports of the 30 year anniversary appeared), it was just reported as Cruciate Ligament damage, no mention on which specific one(s). Of course interest was higher at the time so we got more then severely injured his knee. And just think, if the referee had followed the rules instead of trying to look after the spectacle, he wouldn't have been on the pitch to get injured (he didn't even get a second yellow to make the red so Spurs were allowed to sub him as well).

[Martyn Smith]

Arsenal have lost that Timber kid they just bought with a serious injury now.

Probably just dry rot with Timber.

I wooden know

[tricky dicky]

Oh I've just twigged