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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8055 on: December 30, 2022, 02:27:06 PM »
Going back to bowlers' workloads Paul, I remember Devon Malcolm being ruined as a bowler in the 90s. He was seriously quick, like Archer and Wood now, but had to be used as a stock bowler as England's batting was so crap that they had to pack the side with batsmen to make up for the fact that many of them weren't good enough.

As a member of a five bowler attack, used in short spells as a strike bowler, Malcolm would have made far more of an impact than he did.

Steve Waugh is on record saying that he was surprised that Devon Malcolm didn't play more for England.  Think the problem was that the bowlers picked up so many injuries in the 90's, we could never field a settled attack.  I seem to remember that Raymond Illingworth didn't have that much time for Devon as well.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8056 on: December 30, 2022, 02:40:00 PM »
Injuries playedf a small part but the biggest issue for England in the 90s was that we played the game as if it was still the same as it had been 20-30 years earlier. We did catch up for a while with the likes of KP and Flintoff but we were at risk of falling into the same trap over the last few years, which is why the changes since McCullum and Stokes took over have been so massive, we've gone from being genrally behind the times for the best part of my lifetime to suddenly being the team that's driving the game forward.

What's particularly exciting right now is that we're finally using the brilliance of our white ball team to push the test team forward instead of being scared of it ruining the format.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8057 on: January 04, 2023, 01:21:54 PM »
If proof was needed that England stand apart from ROW in playing Test cricket the new way evidence from current PAK v NZL test series confirms it. First test  played at Karachi ended in a draw after full 5 days with Pakistan fighting a fine rearguard action to save the natch. The second test again at Karachi is underway and after 3 days  both teams have scored circa 400 and it's likely that this match will also end in a draw.  This is good normal Test cricket, England play a different game.

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« Reply #8058 on: January 04, 2023, 01:41:48 PM »
If proof was needed that England stand apart from ROW in playing Test cricket the new way evidence from current PAK v NZL test series confirms it. First test  played at Karachi ended in a draw after full 5 days with Pakistan fighting a fine rearguard action to save the natch. The second test again at Karachi is underway and after 3 days  both teams have scored circa 400 and it's likely that this match will also end in a draw.  This is good normal Test cricket, England play a different game.

I think these type of games are exactly what we're trying to get away from. I think the entire mindset is that it's better to lose by trying to win than to play for the draw for most of the match and part of that is to move the game along so a draw is always unlikely (without weather related problems). Longer term I think we'll need to adapt as other teams get up to speed but for now we're surprising teams by playing to win the match in every session, that's just not how test cricket has ever been played.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8059 on: January 10, 2023, 08:13:08 PM »
Blimey Jofra doesn’t look to have lost a step.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8060 on: January 10, 2023, 09:27:11 PM »
I know that South Africa cricket is in desperate need of money, but the “Mumbai Indians of Cape Town” is right up there with the “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” for daft sports franchise names.


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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8061 on: January 11, 2023, 08:00:04 AM »
I know that South Africa cricket is in desperate need of money, but the “Mumbai Indians of Cape Town” is right up there with the “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” for daft sports franchise names.



All of the teams in the South African SA20 competition are owned by IPL teams, they’re also wearing similar coloured clothing etc.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8062 on: January 25, 2023, 08:04:47 PM »
Jof sounds very motivated to play Test cricket again which is great to hear.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8063 on: January 27, 2023, 04:32:21 PM »
Jof had a tough time in his first 5 and pulled it back a bit. Good to get overs in the legs.

Really nice to see Roy getting some runs.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8064 on: January 28, 2023, 02:43:59 AM »
Well, that didn't end too well, did it?

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8065 on: January 28, 2023, 02:51:50 AM »
Well, that didn't end too well, did it?

Our form in the 50 over format hasn't been great for a while now.  Wonder if it has anything to do with the players hardly ever playing that format anymore.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8066 on: January 28, 2023, 01:38:41 PM »
It can’t help, but fair few players missing too. With that game I wouldn’t be too disheartened in that it was a complete balls up that lost it, if we got to that position 10 times we’d win it 9.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8067 on: January 29, 2023, 12:15:13 PM »
A very good total from England today. 342 is back to where England were as a one day team.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8068 on: January 29, 2023, 04:36:34 PM »
SA win again.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #8069 on: January 30, 2023, 01:59:24 AM »
England are in the awkward situation of always being able to breezily dismiss the latest ODI defeats by saying that several key players are injured or unavailable.

 


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