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Author Topic: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20  (Read 5083 times)

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #75 on: September 05, 2020, 03:38:06 PM »
That is a hell of a win for Wasps.

The turnaround in their season has been very impressive.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #76 on: September 05, 2020, 07:14:32 PM »
Watching Sarries-Wasps idly while doing odd jobs. Farrell just had yet another rush of blood to the head and gone in with an atrocious tackle on a Wasp. First time I've ever seen a ref run in instantly to stop a player from being beaten half to death by absolutely furious team-mates of the guy he just totally poleaxed. Red card, obviously.

I recognise it's an instant reaction, but he has to be binned from the England team. He just doesn't learn.

I'm sure I'm on record here for saying I don't like Farrell very much. It's never been about talent though, he's always seconds away from being a nasty fucker for no reason. Today he showed himself up to everyone, fucking awful attempt at a tackle.

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« Reply #77 on: September 05, 2020, 11:11:41 PM »
Watching Sarries-Wasps idly while doing odd jobs. Farrell just had yet another rush of blood to the head and gone in with an atrocious tackle on a Wasp. First time I've ever seen a ref run in instantly to stop a player from being beaten half to death by absolutely furious team-mates of the guy he just totally poleaxed. Red card, obviously.

I recognise it's an instant reaction, but he has to be binned from the England team. He just doesn't learn.

I'm sure I'm on record here for saying I don't like Farrell very much. It's never been about talent though, he's always seconds away from being a nasty fucker for no reason. Today he showed himself up to everyone, fucking awful attempt at a tackle.

Farrell plays on the edge but to suggest he shouldn't play for England is a bit extreme. The kid is quality & Eddie Jones knows that.

Great result for Ulster beating Edinburgh!

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #78 on: September 05, 2020, 11:48:32 PM »
I know it was a snap reaction- but how / when will he learn ? He just about knocked a teenagers head clean off his shoulders, in a game that doesn't change anything for Saracens season, that wasn't particularly niggly. There was a solid defensice line in front of the Wasp, and he charged in from the back. To me, it appears that being the super-talented son of a League legend has meant that he has never faced any real consequences for his complete inability to keep his cool on the pitch and tackle properly. So, perhaps a season forced to watch England from the sidelines would help focus his attention on how important it is to have a minimum amount of care towards fellow pros.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2020, 01:33:17 PM »
Rather than an England ban I just hope they go with a meaningful ban in all formats. 6-8 weeks for me. Maybe missing the only important game Sarries have left will be a bit of a wake up call. I can also see him acting like a right prick in the championship and doing that sort of shit to part-timers.

I think it's definitely related to his dad but more importantly to league where the big collision and wrap if you can approach to tackling is the norm. I add him never changing to the list of reasons why Sarries are a bunch of c**ts because he's been there long enough to have had this shit coached out of him but they'd rather play on the edge.

I'm not against big tackles, I love watching Lawes smash fly-halves, but it needs to be legal hits.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2020, 12:15:54 AM »
5 match ban for Farrell.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2020, 12:17:54 AM »
5 match ban for Farrell.

Came on to post that, I think he's very lucky, "reckless but not intentional" - I'm not sure I agree with that.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2020, 12:32:39 AM »
As was alluded to on here the other day, if he'd been punished severely for this sort of thing earlier in his career it would have been in everyone's best interests.  There's no doubt he's been indulged.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2020, 12:38:21 AM »
As was alluded to on here the other day, if he'd been punished severely for this sort of thing earlier in his career it would have been in everyone's best interests.  There's no doubt he's been indulged.

Sadly mostly by his dad who will have encouraged him to lead with his shoulder because it's common in rugby league. Sarries have failed in forcing it out of his game and his ability has meant he gets soft touch treatment far too often.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #84 on: September 09, 2020, 01:52:01 PM »
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/disciplinary-panel-manipulated-as-farrells-reduced-ban-raises-serious-questions

So the length of the ban halved from a much more realistic 10 weeks based on testimonials from his club manager, his international manager and a random charity that he's worked with. Does the idea that he's a twat because he's indulged and enabled need any further evidence?

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2020, 02:16:36 PM »
https://www.rugbydump.com/news/disciplinary-panel-manipulated-as-farrells-reduced-ban-raises-serious-questions

So the length of the ban halved from a much more realistic 10 weeks based on testimonials from his club manager, his international manager and a random charity that he's worked with. Does the idea that he's a twat because he's indulged and enabled need any further evidence?

"He's just not that sort of player" - despite the multitude of occasions when he has proven that he is indeed that sort of player but didn't get so much as a card for it because his Dad is the coach and he's the captain / number 10(12) of England.

Again, when the ref knows he has to run in straightaway to prevent serious reprisals from the opposition (which I've never seen before, normally just the ref hanging ineffectually tootling on his whistle until the argy-bargy dies down), when Farrell hangs around pitch-side after the red card to get the photo op in and further offers a 1-on-1 session with the lad, he has fucked up to an extraordinary degree which merits an extraordinary punishment.

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Re: Domestic and European Rugby Union - 2019/20
« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2020, 02:05:23 PM »
The good behaviour is applicable for anyone that gets hauled in front of the panel, so he hasn't been treated any differently to anyone else.

 


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