Dean Smith - Confirmed

[Des Little]

it doesn't but questions have to be asked if by the end of the season, we have only won two or three more games. Who knows we might do a mini Fulham an win all our remaining fixtures. If Bristol City and win eight on the bounce...

Either you’re on it very, very early or still on it from last night. Either way, put it down sir!

[Three Spires Villa]

Sack Smith, install 3rd manager. Watch him flounder with the diabolical midfield options. Watch him win one in 6, sack him appoint 4th manager, last 5 games. Sack him. Appoint new manager in summer. Pot bare for transfers owing to compensation, poor start, sack him.

That sounds like the pundits on TV and radio, on your basis you never sack anyone. At some point a manager, not talking about DS, has to go, what are your tipping points, after a relegation, after 1 win in 20, after 5 seasons of treading water?

The tipping point is certainly not after 4 months and no summer.  Sacking Smith now serves no logical purpose.

Quite agree, I do not want Smith sacked. I would like him to win some games, or as the season has faded away, try something diffrent, in terms of play. Personally, for what its worth, I dont think he can be called until this time next year. I am worried though that as we approach a fourth season in the Championship, we are going to get stuck here. I guess its up to the owners in the summer if they think Dean has done enough, with the players he has got.

[mr underhill]

Put what down Des? I didn't realize H&V had morphed into the Labour Party where any criticism  resulted in deselection. The facts are simple, managers are judged on results. Dean isn't getting any, ergo he starts to or he goes. And a final word on my going home at half time - it had nothing to do with the M6 . It had everything to do with me having enough of the utterly predictable rubbish on offer. It's the Villa bound journey I was referring to, which is always stressful, less so on the way home.

[Clampy]

I think he probably should have tried El Ghazi through the  middle when he took Hourihane off. I wonder if he gave Ramsey minutes on the pitch knowing that McGinn was going to be missing next week? To be honest, I can't remember when he got booked. The ref got his card out a few too many times yesterday, he was useless.

[Risso]

Put what down Des? I didn't realize H&V had morphed into the Labour Party where any criticism  resulted in deselection. The facts are simple, managers are judged on results. Dean isn't getting any, ergo he starts to or he goes. And a final word on my going home at half time - it had nothing to do with the M6 . It had everything to do with me having enough of the utterly predictable rubbish on offer. It's the Villa bound journey I was referring to, which is always stressful, less so on the way home.

I think it was just a harmless joke about being a bit drunk, in relation to the comment about winning all the remaining games.

[Risso]

I think he probably should have tried El Ghazi through the  middle when he took Hourihane off. I wonder if he gave Ramsey minutes on the pitch knowing that McGinn was going to be missing next week? To be honest, I can't remember when he got booked. The ref got his card out a few too many times yesterday, he was useless.

It was after that spell when McGinn tackled about three of their players in succession.  In which he won the ball cleanly three times, and at no time committed a foul.  You're right, the ref was absolutely dire.

[brian green]

Des was only gently pulling your leg Mr U. 

[Clampy]

I think he probably should have tried El Ghazi through the  middle when he took Hourihane off. I wonder if he gave Ramsey minutes on the pitch knowing that McGinn was going to be missing next week? To be honest, I can't remember when he got booked. The ref got his card out a few too many times yesterday, he was useless.

It was after that spell when McGinn tackled about three of their players in succession.  In which he won the ball cleanly three times, and at no time committed a foul.  You're right, the ref was absolutely dire.

I remember the booking itself, just can't remember if it was after Ramsey came on or before. The Mings booking was ridiculous as well. It's not as if he kicked the ball away or anything. He was just showing frustration. He let off the high foot on one of our players which made all his other bookings look a bit saft.

[Ads]

I think he probably should have tried El Ghazi through the  middle when he took Hourihane off. I wonder if he gave Ramsey minutes on the pitch knowing that McGinn was going to be missing next week? To be honest, I can't remember when he got booked. The ref got his card out a few too many times yesterday, he was useless.

It was after that spell when McGinn tackled about three of their players in succession.  In which he won the ball cleanly three times, and at no time committed a foul.  You're right, the ref was absolutely dire.

A joke wasn't it? McGinn gets booked for a "reckless" tackle, yet a Stripey player goes in foot up, out of control and doesn't. They're utter donkeys the officials down here.

[Risso]

It obviously goes without saying, but Smith needs Grealish back this week if possible.  A terrible midfield shorn of McGinn is going to be even worse for the next two games.  For all the talk of patience, bad results are like a rolling snowball, the criticism will get bigger the more they roll along, and the more we lose, the less patient people are going to be.  Things are bad at the moment, but think what they could be like if we don't win for another 4-5 matches.

[Risso]

I think he probably should have tried El Ghazi through the  middle when he took Hourihane off. I wonder if he gave Ramsey minutes on the pitch knowing that McGinn was going to be missing next week? To be honest, I can't remember when he got booked. The ref got his card out a few too many times yesterday, he was useless.

It was after that spell when McGinn tackled about three of their players in succession.  In which he won the ball cleanly three times, and at no time committed a foul.  You're right, the ref was absolutely dire.

A joke wasn't it? McGinn gets booked for a "reckless" tackle, yet a Stripey player goes in foot up, out of control and doesn't. They're utter donkeys the officials down here.

Yep they're shockers to a man. That foot up challenge, in which he missed with his foot, so elbowed him in the head for good measure.  No booking.  Joke.

[Clampy]

Smith in his after match comments alluded to some of the decisions, without mentioning the ref. He's not the reason why we lost but he was utterly terrible.

[Ketzster]

Exactly...and I agree. I’m just putting it out there in black and white so those criticising Smith for not changing the team or formation can see the clusterfuck dilemma that Smith has.

But surely in those 14 games he could have tried Davis up front with Abraham for example. Or Kodjia and Abraham instead of keep sticking Kodjia out on the wing every time he comes on. Yes it might leave us a player short in midfield but as most of you think we only play with two there anyway why not at least try it? To say that Smith doesn’t have the option to change the formation simply isn’t true

[Marlon From Bearwood]

I think he probably should have tried El Ghazi through the  middle when he took Hourihane off. I wonder if he gave Ramsey minutes on the pitch knowing that McGinn was going to be missing next week? To be honest, I can't remember when he got booked. The ref got his card out a few too many times yesterday, he was useless.

It was after that spell when McGinn tackled about three of their players in succession.  In which he won the ball cleanly three times, and at no time committed a foul.  You're right, the ref was absolutely dire.

A joke wasn't it? McGinn gets booked for a "reckless" tackle, yet a Stripey player goes in foot up, out of control and doesn't. They're utter donkeys the officials down here.

Dawson body checking Green in the first half after he’d knocked the ball past him was the most blatant yellow card offence you’ll see. No card given.

[PeterWithe]

I’ve not seen a replay but that challenge on Green in the first half looked a straight red at the time.

Thought Mings was a warranted card for dissent, as was Hause. JMs was a joke, he clearly played the ball and was in full control.