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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5400 on: December 16, 2019, 09:54:11 AM »
I'm as frustrated as anyone but this talk of sacking Smith is highly premature IMO.

He has 3 huge winnable games coming up with which to set things right. Win them all and we could be comfortably mid-table. Win two, draw one, we're still in good shape. Etc. etc.

If we're down in the bottom 3 after those games, I could forgive the talk of sacking him, but does he really deserve to lose his job at this present moment in time? I don't think so.
Agreed ATAL.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5401 on: December 16, 2019, 10:08:45 AM »
There's definitely an element amongst our support who just revel in misfortune and seem to naturally gravitate towards only seeing the worst possible outcomes. Each to their own I guess.

Yes this run of results has been brutal but for me, I'm fully behind Dean Smith. We've been down the road of swapping managers constantly and it's part of the reason we ultimately got relegated. We've been so fortunate to get back to the top flight, earlier than expected. We as fans are integral to the mood around the club. We can foster an atmosphere of strength and unity in the face of hardship, or we can panic and help to create a storm.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5402 on: December 16, 2019, 10:09:20 AM »
In my view 100% Smith will build this team and squad that what he does.

Respectfully I acknowledge others thoughts that there are calls to want some sort of change or notable difference in performance or style and tactics

For me no I'm firmly in the Smith is definitely the man for Villa at this time and long term as long as all goes ok.
I genuinely feel comfortable and confident with Dean Smith and his ability as a coach.

And of course Liverpool in the cup and the Southampton and Norwich matches are won and won well then everyone smiling
Certainly winning the two games this week , and with some panache will go some way to
alleviating the discontented.
I can't help thinking if Villa don't win these games comfortably then be grievances by some villa folk.

Most importantly the wins are the key .
I don't see much to fear from the cup and the next 2 matches and in all honesty I expect Villa to show some good football in these matches and a few goals.
It will , expectedly  be a lot easier in these 3 matches that it has all season and then confidence taken into Watford match.
I'm sticking with Smith no reason not too.

 

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5403 on: December 16, 2019, 10:45:03 AM »
Begs another question:  how about we yo-yo for a couple of years until we find out feet?

No ta. We've seen already what a slog the Championship is and how hard it is to get out of.  Go down and that's the last time we'll see jack in a Villa shirt.  I hope that Smith keeps us up, but the next three games are enormous and if he doesn't sort it out then he needs to be sacked before January.

If I'm honest Risso, I think the optimum time to sack him will be tomorrow so they can bring someone in to have a quick look at the squad in readiness for making a few smart signings in January. It's such a gamble either way.

Ridiculous. Suggesting sacking a manager we've just handed a new contract to, on the even of a cup quarter final? Yes, we are in a bit of a slump and yes things do we need to improve but the lack of patience is truly staggering.

Given what we spent in the summer, any manager with 15 points after 17 games would be under serious pressure. Particularly one who is simply not learning from his mistakes. Next three games are huge and we go into them on the back of dreadful performances in recent games.

If Smith wasn't a Villa fan there wouldn't be a single poster suggesting we back him all the way back to the championship.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5404 on: December 16, 2019, 10:55:22 AM »
Begs another question:  how about we yo-yo for a couple of years until we find out feet?

No ta. We've seen already what a slog the Championship is and how hard it is to get out of.  Go down and that's the last time we'll see jack in a Villa shirt.  I hope that Smith keeps us up, but the next three games are enormous and if he doesn't sort it out then he needs to be sacked before January.

If I'm honest Risso, I think the optimum time to sack him will be tomorrow so they can bring someone in to have a quick look at the squad in readiness for making a few smart signings in January. It's such a gamble either way.

Ridiculous. Suggesting sacking a manager we've just handed a new contract to, on the even of a cup quarter final? Yes, we are in a bit of a slump and yes things do we need to improve but the lack of patience is truly staggering.

Given what we spent in the summer, any manager with 15 points after 17 games would be under serious pressure. Particularly one who is simply not learning from his mistakes. Next three games are huge and we go into them on the back of dreadful performances in recent games.

If Smith wasn't a Villa fan there wouldn't be a single poster suggesting we back him all the way back to the championship.
Dreadful performances? I was at Old Trafford just 2 weeks ago when we got a well deserved draw and could of won it but for the heel of Jack Grealish. I think some perspective needs to be applied on here by some posters.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5405 on: December 16, 2019, 11:26:59 AM »
Begs another question:  how about we yo-yo for a couple of years until we find out feet?

No ta. We've seen already what a slog the Championship is and how hard it is to get out of.  Go down and that's the last time we'll see jack in a Villa shirt.  I hope that Smith keeps us up, but the next three games are enormous and if he doesn't sort it out then he needs to be sacked before January.

If I'm honest Risso, I think the optimum time to sack him will be tomorrow so they can bring someone in to have a quick look at the squad in readiness for making a few smart signings in January. It's such a gamble either way.

Ridiculous. Suggesting sacking a manager we've just handed a new contract to, on the even of a cup quarter final? Yes, we are in a bit of a slump and yes things do we need to improve but the lack of patience is truly staggering.

Given what we spent in the summer, any manager with 15 points after 17 games would be under serious pressure. Particularly one who is simply not learning from his mistakes. Next three games are huge and we go into them on the back of dreadful performances in recent games.

If Smith wasn't a Villa fan there wouldn't be a single poster suggesting we back him all the way back to the championship.

We spent the money in the summer because we had to replace virtually an entire squad who were past it and out of contract, thanks to the previous manager. You can't use the money spent as a stick to beat him with, he's had to bring in 13 players so the total is going to be high. It wasn't an Everton situation where he's had £200m to spend just on a few additions. By all means, comment on performance but money spent has got nothing to do with it as a qualifier.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5406 on: December 16, 2019, 11:48:59 AM »
If Southampton turn us over I think attitudes could change.

We would be under huge pressure. It's the biggest match we've played since the play off final so the players need to train well this week, get some confidence from playing Liverpool under 12s and be ready for the match.

We lose to Southampton and we're 3 points behind them all of a sudden. Indeed if Everton draw at home to Arsenal (I expect them to win given what a shower Arsenal are) we'll be 3 points just off 17th.

Hugely disappointing given how comfortable we were after the Newcastle game and there's no doubt Wes and Nas wouldn't just be sat there twiddling their thumbs.

Feelers would start be put out especially as we have a decent run of fixtures up to start of March. Let's hope it dose't come to that.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5407 on: December 16, 2019, 12:19:31 PM »
Lets just remember the first season back in the old First Division after Graham Taylor got us promoted, we stayed up by goal difference over West Ham. If he had been sacked then we would not have had the following season of being runners up to Liverpool. Dean Smith is still the same manager that we were all praising last May so we need to show a bit of class as supporters and give him time.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5408 on: December 16, 2019, 12:24:56 PM »
Lets just remember the first season back in the old First Division after Graham Taylor got us promoted, we stayed up by goal difference over West Ham. If he had been sacked then we would not have had the following season of being runners up to Liverpool. Dean Smith is still the same manager that we were all praising last May so we need to show a bit of class as supporters and give him time.

Taylor's season has absolutely no bearing on this season whatsoever.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5409 on: December 16, 2019, 12:40:09 PM »
I am worried for Dean but at this moment and on balance I am not for changing the manager.  Three winnable games as has been said.  But look at the runs the jack average teams in this league tend to go on.  Arsenal didn't win for two months then fluked a win at Wet Spam - so have won once in that two month spell. Wet Spam - how long since they won before they played well and won against Chelsea before being back to turgid against Arsenal.  Burnley didn't win for a while.  Bournemouth went on a horrendous run - then they somehow manage to win at Chelsea.  This is what the league is about below I would say the top two - because even Citeh with all their billions have been inconsistent this season.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5410 on: December 16, 2019, 12:51:35 PM »
Very good posts Supertom and KT.

Including the bots about Whelan, Hutton and Sturridge?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5411 on: December 16, 2019, 01:16:58 PM »
Lets just remember the first season back in the old First Division after Graham Taylor got us promoted, we stayed up by goal difference over West Ham. If he had been sacked then we would not have had the following season of being runners up to Liverpool. Dean Smith is still the same manager that we were all praising last May so we need to show a bit of class as supporters and give him time.

Taylor's season has absolutely no bearing on this season whatsoever.

Your missing the point, it was about us fans keeping faith.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5412 on: December 16, 2019, 02:12:06 PM »
Begs another question:  how about we yo-yo for a couple of years until we find out feet?

No ta. We've seen already what a slog the Championship is and how hard it is to get out of.  Go down and that's the last time we'll see jack in a Villa shirt.  I hope that Smith keeps us up, but the next three games are enormous and if he doesn't sort it out then he needs to be sacked before January.

If I'm honest Risso, I think the optimum time to sack him will be tomorrow so they can bring someone in to have a quick look at the squad in readiness for making a few smart signings in January. It's such a gamble either way.

Ridiculous. Suggesting sacking a manager we've just handed a new contract to, on the even of a cup quarter final? Yes, we are in a bit of a slump and yes things do we need to improve but the lack of patience is truly staggering.

Given what we spent in the summer, any manager with 15 points after 17 games would be under serious pressure. Particularly one who is simply not learning from his mistakes. Next three games are huge and we go into them on the back of dreadful performances in recent games.

If Smith wasn't a Villa fan there wouldn't be a single poster suggesting we back him all the way back to the championship.

We spent the money in the summer because we had to replace virtually an entire squad who were past it and out of contract, thanks to the previous manager. You can't use the money spent as a stick to beat him with, he's had to bring in 13 players so the total is going to be high. It wasn't an Everton situation where he's had £200m to spend just on a few additions. By all means, comment on performance but money spent has got nothing to do with it as a qualifier.

Fair enough was going to take time to bed them in, though Mings and AEG were re-signed and many others are just squad filler replacing squad filler. But our performance levels are falling off a cliff in recent weeks, at this stage the team should be improving. It wasn't as if Smith was picking up players from the bargain basement either. 15m on a left back, 22m on a striker, 15m on a playmaker, 16m or so on our two backup centre backs.....

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5413 on: December 16, 2019, 02:16:45 PM »
Begs another question:  how about we yo-yo for a couple of years until we find out feet?

No ta. We've seen already what a slog the Championship is and how hard it is to get out of.  Go down and that's the last time we'll see jack in a Villa shirt.  I hope that Smith keeps us up, but the next three games are enormous and if he doesn't sort it out then he needs to be sacked before January.

If I'm honest Risso, I think the optimum time to sack him will be tomorrow so they can bring someone in to have a quick look at the squad in readiness for making a few smart signings in January. It's such a gamble either way.

Ridiculous. Suggesting sacking a manager we've just handed a new contract to, on the even of a cup quarter final? Yes, we are in a bit of a slump and yes things do we need to improve but the lack of patience is truly staggering.

Given what we spent in the summer, any manager with 15 points after 17 games would be under serious pressure. Particularly one who is simply not learning from his mistakes. Next three games are huge and we go into them on the back of dreadful performances in recent games.

If Smith wasn't a Villa fan there wouldn't be a single poster suggesting we back him all the way back to the championship.
Dreadful performances? I was at Old Trafford just 2 weeks ago when we got a well deserved draw and could of won it but for the heel of Jack Grealish. I think some perspective needs to be applied on here by some posters.

Man Utd are a bog standard mid table team these days. Everton also got a deserved point there yesterday. Decent performance but a point at Old Trafford isn't what it once was. Martial also missed from two yards out late on. Arguably the final score in the three performances since flattered us.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5414 on: December 16, 2019, 02:44:14 PM »
It's not because he's a Villa fan. It's because he's been here barely a year,  worked one miracle already and we've had a few bad performances against better teams than us. If you want him sacked after that, good luck persuading any decent manager that joining the Villa would be anything other than disastrous for his career.
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