Quote from: HolteL4 on July 29, 2020, 10:25:34 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 28, 2020, 10:04:37 AMQuote from: HolteL4 on July 28, 2020, 09:42:15 AMLet not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂His overall gameplay is very poor. Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough. We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us. You must be watching a different player to the rest of us as it's pretty clear that whilst enthusiastic he has been mostly shit this season. Take a scroll through his thread if you think I'm the only one being harsh.
Quote from: chrisw1 on July 28, 2020, 10:04:37 AMQuote from: HolteL4 on July 28, 2020, 09:42:15 AMLet not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂His overall gameplay is very poor. Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough. We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us.
Quote from: HolteL4 on July 28, 2020, 09:42:15 AMLet not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂His overall gameplay is very poor. Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough. We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.
Let not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂
He’s a long, long way from Heskey. Heskey has pace to go with his great strength. And could score some good goals too.
Quote from: aj2k77 on July 29, 2020, 06:40:26 PMQuote from: Mister E on July 29, 2020, 04:54:43 PMQuote from: exiled on the wirral! on July 29, 2020, 04:16:07 PMThe more I think about the more I'm amazed we stayed up when the consider the fact that after NewYears Day precisely 1 goal game from a Centre Forward.I take that as a positive: add a decent striker an someone who can provide the ammo and we're well-set for next season.If Davis ever scores 12-15 goals in the Premier League then I'll donate a ton to any charity you wish. He's a great lad no doubt but he's not a top division striker.I’ll match your donation if I spend a night in with Kylie Minogue and the Corrs sisters.
Quote from: Mister E on July 29, 2020, 04:54:43 PMQuote from: exiled on the wirral! on July 29, 2020, 04:16:07 PMThe more I think about the more I'm amazed we stayed up when the consider the fact that after NewYears Day precisely 1 goal game from a Centre Forward.I take that as a positive: add a decent striker an someone who can provide the ammo and we're well-set for next season.If Davis ever scores 12-15 goals in the Premier League then I'll donate a ton to any charity you wish. He's a great lad no doubt but he's not a top division striker.
Quote from: exiled on the wirral! on July 29, 2020, 04:16:07 PMThe more I think about the more I'm amazed we stayed up when the consider the fact that after NewYears Day precisely 1 goal game from a Centre Forward.I take that as a positive: add a decent striker an someone who can provide the ammo and we're well-set for next season.
The more I think about the more I'm amazed we stayed up when the consider the fact that after NewYears Day precisely 1 goal game from a Centre Forward.
Quote from: chrisw1 on July 29, 2020, 11:57:28 AMQuote from: HolteL4 on July 29, 2020, 10:25:34 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 28, 2020, 10:04:37 AMQuote from: HolteL4 on July 28, 2020, 09:42:15 AMLet not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂His overall gameplay is very poor. Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough. We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us. You must be watching a different player to the rest of us as it's pretty clear that whilst enthusiastic he has been mostly shit this season. Take a scroll through his thread if you think I'm the only one being harsh.No you're alright i went to every game before the lock down, i'll trust my own eyes instead of letting a thread on an internet forum sway my opinion of a player.
Loan him out at a lower level for experience. Worked quite well for Grealish at Notts County!
Quote from: HolteL4 on July 29, 2020, 10:26:41 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 29, 2020, 11:57:28 AMQuote from: HolteL4 on July 29, 2020, 10:25:34 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 28, 2020, 10:04:37 AMQuote from: HolteL4 on July 28, 2020, 09:42:15 AMLet not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂His overall gameplay is very poor. Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough. We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us. You must be watching a different player to the rest of us as it's pretty clear that whilst enthusiastic he has been mostly shit this season. Take a scroll through his thread if you think I'm the only one being harsh.No you're alright i went to every game before the lock down, i'll trust my own eyes instead of letting a thread on an internet forum sway my opinion of a player.Nice. What did you think of Benteke, by the way?
Quote from: Legion on July 29, 2020, 10:36:53 PMLoan him out at a lower level for experience. Worked quite well for Grealish at Notts County!He's 22. Grealish went to Notts County when he was 17.Davis isn't a young prospect anymore. He's the same age as Tammy Abraham, who has played 200 odd matches and scored 80 goals. He'll probably have a decent lower-league career to get him through life but he's very much riding the Delfouneso highway.
I think strikers scoring shit loads of goals is rarer than people imagine in the top leagues and I can see it going further away from that over time. Strikers are, in my opinion, the most specialised position in the game after goalkeepers and some one who does a lot of good work with their back to goal can be more valuable than an out and out goalscorer if you build your team around them. For example our strikers got 6 goals between them, which isn't great, but they guys played on the wings for us got 18 between them and we got 9 more from central midfield.Look at Liverpool as another example, the 2 genuine centre forwards in their squad are Firmino and Origi who got 13 between them out of 85 they scored in total.Goalscorers don't have to be centre forwards any more, this is why I think Jacob Ramsey could have a big future, he plays in central midfield but he scores goals (6 in 12 for the U23s and 3 in 7 on loan at Doncaster). Before the season started I said I'd be happy with about 15 goals from the strikers so long as the wingers and midfield got 25-30 and the defenders got about 10. The strikers let me down but I still think that holds true and I'll be hoping for similar next year.
Davis creates problems when he comes on the pitch for the opposition. His shot accross the goal against West Ham was a decent effort imo and needed someone following in at the far post. And Jack's goal was started by good play from Davis. He will never be prolific but does need to add some goals into his game. But there's something about him that I like as a player.
Quote from: Risso on July 29, 2020, 11:44:34 AMQuote from: Dave on July 29, 2020, 10:50:19 AMQuote from: kippaxvilla2 on July 29, 2020, 09:42:16 AMIt would be nice if every so often we didn’t repeat the mistakes of the past. See Riley, P.I thought most people had finally got round to the idea that Riley actually signed quite a lot of very good players that were mismanaged into the ground by an incompetent halfwit? Even if some of them did turn out to be good players, it was still demonstrably the wrong approach.Yes I think what I was trying to say was lumping your whole PL future on a load of untried players from European leagues as opposed to sprinkling with some seasoned professionals.
Quote from: Dave on July 29, 2020, 10:50:19 AMQuote from: kippaxvilla2 on July 29, 2020, 09:42:16 AMIt would be nice if every so often we didn’t repeat the mistakes of the past. See Riley, P.I thought most people had finally got round to the idea that Riley actually signed quite a lot of very good players that were mismanaged into the ground by an incompetent halfwit? Even if some of them did turn out to be good players, it was still demonstrably the wrong approach.
Quote from: kippaxvilla2 on July 29, 2020, 09:42:16 AMIt would be nice if every so often we didn’t repeat the mistakes of the past. See Riley, P.I thought most people had finally got round to the idea that Riley actually signed quite a lot of very good players that were mismanaged into the ground by an incompetent halfwit?
It would be nice if every so often we didn’t repeat the mistakes of the past. See Riley, P.