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Offline HolteL4

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« Reply #465 on: July 29, 2020, 10:26:41 PM »
Let not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂
His overall gameplay is very poor.  Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough.  We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.

With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting  in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us.
You must be watching a different player to the rest of us as it's pretty clear that whilst enthusiastic he has been mostly shit this season.  Take a scroll through his thread if you think I'm the only one being harsh.

No you're alright i went to every game before the lock down, i'll trust my own eyes instead of letting a thread on an internet forum sway my opinion of a player.

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« Reply #466 on: July 29, 2020, 10:28:06 PM »
He’s a long, long way from Heskey. Heskey has pace to go with his great strength. And could score some good goals too.
Agree , I think Heskey’s career goals ratio is 1:4 which isn’t bad, probably corrupted by him scoring regularly whilst at Leicester mind . Still like Davies mind and for what we paid I’d keep him around .

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« Reply #467 on: July 29, 2020, 10:36:04 PM »
We haven't been a comfortable top flight side now for nearly a decade. We need better than strikers who haven't scored in 2 and a half years or we will carry on circling the drain. I've no doubt he's a top bloke, works hard and cost a packet of crisps but if he's not going to score goals then I'd have him as distant 4th choice at most and if we're still in the top flight the season after gone by then.


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« Reply #468 on: July 29, 2020, 10:36:14 PM »
The more I think about the more I'm amazed we stayed up when the consider the fact that after NewYears Day precisely 1 goal game from a Centre Forward.
I take that as a positive: add a decent striker an someone who can provide the ammo and we're well-set for next season.

If Davis ever scores 12-15 goals in the Premier League then I'll donate a ton to any charity you wish. He's a great lad no doubt but he's not a top division striker.

I’ll match your donation if I spend a night in with Kylie Minogue and the Corrs sisters.

Is it nice? The nursing home you all live in

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« Reply #469 on: July 29, 2020, 10:36:53 PM »
Loan him out at a lower level for experience. Worked quite well for Grealish at Notts County!

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« Reply #470 on: July 29, 2020, 10:53:16 PM »
Let not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂
His overall gameplay is very poor.  Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough.  We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.

With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting  in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us.
You must be watching a different player to the rest of us as it's pretty clear that whilst enthusiastic he has been mostly shit this season.  Take a scroll through his thread if you think I'm the only one being harsh.

No you're alright i went to every game before the lock down, i'll trust my own eyes instead of letting a thread on an internet forum sway my opinion of a player.

Nice. What did you think of Benteke, by the way?

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« Reply #471 on: July 29, 2020, 10:53:55 PM »
Loan him out at a lower level for experience. Worked quite well for Grealish at Notts County!

He's 22. Grealish went to Notts County when he was 17.

Davis isn't a young prospect anymore.  He's the same age as Tammy Abraham, who has played 200 odd matches and scored 80 goals.

He'll probably have a decent lower-league career to get him through life but he's very much riding the Delfouneso highway.

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« Reply #472 on: July 29, 2020, 10:56:10 PM »
Agreed. Just not good enough at this level and never will be.

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« Reply #473 on: July 29, 2020, 10:57:42 PM »
Let not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂
His overall gameplay is very poor.  Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough.  We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.

With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting  in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us.
You must be watching a different player to the rest of us as it's pretty clear that whilst enthusiastic he has been mostly shit this season.  Take a scroll through his thread if you think I'm the only one being harsh.

No you're alright i went to every game before the lock down, i'll trust my own eyes instead of letting a thread on an internet forum sway my opinion of a player.

Nice. What did you think of Benteke, by the way?

I thought he was ace when he was with us, if a little slow to start off with. I wonder what the returning poster under another username thought?

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #474 on: July 30, 2020, 01:10:09 AM »
Loan him out at a lower level for experience. Worked quite well for Grealish at Notts County!

He's 22. Grealish went to Notts County when he was 17.

Davis isn't a young prospect anymore.  He's the same age as Tammy Abraham, who has played 200 odd matches and scored 80 goals.

He'll probably have a decent lower-league career to get him through life but he's very much riding the Delfouneso highway.

Weren't you still holding out hope for Nathan until last season? (winky face)

In my dreams I still hope for an all-conquering strike force of Luke Moore and Rushian Hepburn-Murphy. I willed them and the Fonz on so much to do the business for us, alas.

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« Reply #475 on: July 30, 2020, 01:58:07 AM »
The above-named were goalscorers who didn't score any goals. Davis has shown that he offers us something that none of our other players do, and when it mattered.

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« Reply #476 on: July 30, 2020, 06:35:39 AM »
I think strikers scoring shit loads of goals is rarer than people imagine in the top leagues and I can see it going further away from that over time. Strikers are, in my opinion, the most specialised position in the game after goalkeepers and some one who does a lot of good work with their back to goal can be more valuable than an out and out goalscorer if you build your team around them. For example our strikers got 6 goals between them, which isn't great, but they guys played on the wings for us got 18 between them and we got 9 more from central midfield.

Look at Liverpool as another example, the 2 genuine centre forwards in their squad are Firmino and Origi who got 13 between them out of 85 they scored in total.

Goalscorers don't have to be centre forwards any more, this is why I think Jacob Ramsey could have a big future, he plays in central midfield but he scores goals (6 in 12 for the U23s and 3 in 7 on loan at Doncaster). Before the season started I said I'd be happy with about 15 goals from the strikers so long as the wingers and midfield got 25-30 and the defenders got about 10. The strikers let me down but I still think that holds true and I'll be hoping for similar next year.
Someone in the summer transfers thread pointed out that a large proportion of the top scorers in the division were over 30, and all (?) over 23. So not being prolific at 22, I'm not sure it's such a massive problem. Plus, as others have said, he offers something different, and maybe isn't best thought it as a traditional centre forward.
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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #477 on: July 30, 2020, 09:13:14 AM »
Davis creates problems when he comes on the pitch for the opposition. His shot accross the goal against West Ham was a decent effort imo and needed someone following in at the far post. And Jack's goal was started by good play from Davis. He will never be prolific but does need to add some goals into his game. But there's something about him that I like as a player.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #478 on: July 30, 2020, 10:12:52 AM »
Davis creates problems when he comes on the pitch for the opposition. His shot accross the goal against West Ham was a decent effort imo and needed someone following in at the far post. And Jack's goal was started by good play from Davis. He will never be prolific but does need to add some goals into his game. But there's something about him that I like as a player.

Even with the goal, his sharp take and turn from the throw opened up the space for McGinn to find Grealish, he didn't just stand and receive the ball. All game every time the ball went into Samatta he'd get hustled off it if he tried more than just laying it off first time.

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« Reply #479 on: July 30, 2020, 10:44:20 AM »
It would be nice if every so often we didn’t repeat the mistakes of the past.  See Riley, P.

I thought most people had finally got round to the idea that Riley actually signed quite a lot of very good players that were mismanaged into the ground by an incompetent halfwit?

Even if some of them did turn out to be good players, it was still demonstrably the wrong approach.

Yes I think what I was trying to say was lumping your whole PL future on a load of untried players from European leagues as opposed to sprinkling with some seasoned professionals.

You mean seasoned professionals like Richards and Lescott added to seasoned professionls like Gabby , Kozak, Senderos, Cole and N'Zogbia?   Adebayor would have been another if  Tim Dim had had his way. I'd say the approach was about right, a balance of new young signings with promise combined with a few seasoned professionals, if only the latter weren't either shite, not interested, had a bad attitude,  crocks or past it or a combination of these.  It was the so-called seasoned professional who let us down that season, not Riley's picks.   

 


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