Jesús García Pitarch - binned

[PaulWinch again]

From my experience of working with orgnisations and CEOs, and from what I've read on this thread, Purslow's behaviour is exactly what would be expected of the man who has ultimate responsibility. Furthermore, in the context of a football club and his previous experience at two big clubs of course he is going to be involved in the football: that's what the club does, after all!
Regarding Pitarch, I don't mourn his departure at all: I don't see anything that he's done to celebrate particularly.
But, the next 3-4 weeks will show whether the new direction is better than the previous one on the transfer market.

That is how I see it too.  We already have absent owners so we need a man on the ground who’s finger prints are on everything.  By that I don’t mean interfering but more so making sure each department is challenged and accountable for their actions.

I see this mentioned about our owners a fair bit. How many top flight, billionaire, owners are hands-on? They’re putting the money in and hiring people to do the job of running the club, I don’t see the problem with that.

[aj2k77]

He scouted Wesley, Samatta and Nakamba for a combined £40m. He can fuck off with his excuses and stories.

[Toronto Villa]

He scouted Wesley, Samatta and Nakamba for a combined £40m. He can fuck off with his excuses and stories.

Or one Joelinton and almost a full Alex Iwobi. I get they haven’t exactly worked out but let’s put spending £40M in the proper context at PL level.

[Legion]

He scouted Wesley, Samatta and Nakamba for a combined £40m. He can fuck off with his excuses and stories.

Wesley was starting to show signs of promise then suffered the serious injury. Samatta looked pretty decent pre-lockdown then turned into Ali Dia. Nakamba was marvellous for a while then went right off the boil.

[pauliewalnuts]

He scouted Wesley, Samatta and Nakamba for a combined £40m. He can fuck off with his excuses and stories.

Wesley was starting to show signs of promise then suffered the serious injury. Samatta looked pretty decent pre-lockdown then turned into Ali Dia. Nakamba was marvellous for a while then went right off the boil.

Wesley had scored 1 in 14 league games immediately before lockdown, 1 goal between October and his injury. Samatta scored one goal in 14 league games.

We need to get away from the mindset whereby we think players who deliver as little as that are the answer.

EDIT

although Davis is the worst, a striker who puts himself about but literally never looks like scoring, doesn't even manage to get shots off.

[paul_e]

I think for all 3 (along with others) it's fair to say they had a good start and then dropped off. It happens a LOT with players coming into the premier league for the first time because the intensity of the games is pretty overwhelming when it's games every few days. The important bit is whether they adapt and come back stronger. Luiz had the same problem, the game was too quick for him and he was getting caught out. He's shown what can happen with a bit of time. That's why i won't write any of them off yet (although because of his age I have less patience for Samatta).

[Toronto Villa]

Man U develop Rashford and Greenwood who score for fun. We get Keinan Davis who rarely ever gets a shot away. A goal but a pipe dream. How does that happen?

[cdbearsfan]

Grealish hasn't been too bad.

[eamonn]

It would be nice if we could bring through a half-decent player more than once a decade or whatever.

[kippaxvilla2]

It would be nice if every so often we didn’t repeat the mistakes of the past.  See Riley, P.

[HolteL4]

Let not forget according to some Trezeguet is shit as well 😂

His overall gameplay is very poor.  Yes he scored some vital goals, but that doesn't paper over the fact that he hasn't been good enough.  We're not going to have PL clubs kicking our doors in to take him off us.

With respect that's total garbage his pace keeps the opposition on their back foot, take Spurs and Arsenal away (arsenal away especially) where we were winning when he was playing he got subbed then we lost. Arsenal was the prime example that Trezeguet has been a good buy, arsenal were shit scared of him getting  in behind them, when he went off they unleashed both barrels on us.

[HolteL4]

I wouldn't say his overall play is poor. He lacks pace and strength and that means he doesn't get into good positions to deliver quality into the box.

He works very hard though and developed a fortune dose of the Allbäck syndrome.

Lacks pace?? Hasn't a stat just come out that only Adama Traore and Kyle Walker are faster than him.

[AsTallAsLions]

The truth is somewhere in the middle, I feel.

He's not as shit as some of us have let on, but his end product is often lacking.

My friend, a neutral, was at VP with me before the lockdown; he reads the game very well and because he's not emotionally invested he reflected on the game in a different way.

I was just about to have a grumble about Trezeguet's uselessness when he said "I like the look of Trezeguet." I was visibly surprised so he acknowledged that it was a frustrating 90 mins in terms of end product for him, but he reckoned there was a baller in there. He said he'd spent more time watching Trez than Grealish because he kept expecting a moment of magic from him which never came, but it seemed as if the cogs were turning every time the ball came near him and he'd get caught in two minds about what to do with it.

Perhaps in a team that isn't struggling so much, he'd feel more freedom to play instinctively.

[Dave]

It would be nice if every so often we didn’t repeat the mistakes of the past.  See Riley, P.

I thought most people had finally got round to the idea that Riley actually signed quite a lot of very good players that were mismanaged into the ground by an incompetent halfwit?

[Walmley_Villa]

The truth is somewhere in the middle, I feel.

He's not as shit as some of us have let on, but his end product is often lacking.

My friend, a neutral, was at VP with me before the lockdown; he reads the game very well and because he's not emotionally invested he reflected on the game in a different way.

I was just about to have a grumble about Trezeguet's uselessness when he said "I like the look of Trezeguet." I was visibly surprised so he acknowledged that it was a frustrating 90 mins in terms of end product for him, but he reckoned there was a baller in there. He said he'd spent more time watching Trez than Grealish because he kept expecting a moment of magic from him which never came, but it seemed as if the cogs were turning every time the ball came near him and he'd get caught in two minds about what to do with it.

Perhaps in a team that isn't struggling so much, he'd feel more freedom to play instinctively.

I think he has all the potential tools in his locker but just needs good coaching which I think he has received post-lockdown which has led to his improvement?