Quote from: Rory on September 13, 2021, 10:28:01 PMQuote from: lovejoy on September 13, 2021, 09:47:06 PMAt the recent old firm game the Rangers fans were referencing that Celtic fans should go home because the famine was over.This is vent occurred 170 years ago and pre dates the clubs.And there was no away fans.It’s a societal problem and until it’s taken seriously it will always be there.Yep. As an English guy from an Irish background, I had a very strange experience in Glasgow. I visited Ibrox just to have a look and I was intimidated, followed, suffered sectarian abuse, spat at in the street. It was like they smelled the cabbage and white pudding in my genes. I thought 'oh great, I got shit around Ibrox for having an Irish-looking head, I'll get shit around Parkhead for having an English accent' but everyone was really nice. Mirrors almost exactly my experience, except I’m English with no other background and mine was in the pubs in Glasgow. I thought I’d be fine with Rangers fans and hated by Celtic, but it was wrong on both counts. It’s why the ignorant ‘bigot brothers’ jibes wind me up. It’s like saying the blacks and whites in the Deep South USA are all as bad as each other, especially when taking into account the history of Irish persecution in Scotland..
Quote from: lovejoy on September 13, 2021, 09:47:06 PMAt the recent old firm game the Rangers fans were referencing that Celtic fans should go home because the famine was over.This is vent occurred 170 years ago and pre dates the clubs.And there was no away fans.It’s a societal problem and until it’s taken seriously it will always be there.Yep. As an English guy from an Irish background, I had a very strange experience in Glasgow. I visited Ibrox just to have a look and I was intimidated, followed, suffered sectarian abuse, spat at in the street. It was like they smelled the cabbage and white pudding in my genes. I thought 'oh great, I got shit around Ibrox for having an Irish-looking head, I'll get shit around Parkhead for having an English accent' but everyone was really nice.
At the recent old firm game the Rangers fans were referencing that Celtic fans should go home because the famine was over.This is vent occurred 170 years ago and pre dates the clubs.And there was no away fans.It’s a societal problem and until it’s taken seriously it will always be there.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on September 13, 2021, 11:10:48 PMQuote from: Rory on September 13, 2021, 10:28:01 PMQuote from: lovejoy on September 13, 2021, 09:47:06 PMAt the recent old firm game the Rangers fans were referencing that Celtic fans should go home because the famine was over.This is vent occurred 170 years ago and pre dates the clubs.And there was no away fans.It’s a societal problem and until it’s taken seriously it will always be there.Yep. As an English guy from an Irish background, I had a very strange experience in Glasgow. I visited Ibrox just to have a look and I was intimidated, followed, suffered sectarian abuse, spat at in the street. It was like they smelled the cabbage and white pudding in my genes. I thought 'oh great, I got shit around Ibrox for having an Irish-looking head, I'll get shit around Parkhead for having an English accent' but everyone was really nice. Mirrors almost exactly my experience, except I’m English with no other background and mine was in the pubs in Glasgow. I thought I’d be fine with Rangers fans and hated by Celtic, but it was wrong on both counts. It’s why the ignorant ‘bigot brothers’ jibes wind me up. It’s like saying the blacks and whites in the Deep South USA are all as bad as each other, especially when taking into account the history of Irish persecution in Scotland..Good job you weren't using your alias Mr Pennell, otherwise you would have been strung up in the West End of Glasgow.
I think I need to go back to school and pay attention in history classes. I’ve never even heard of some of the words being mentioned over the last few pages let alone understand what any of them mean.
Does McGinn even have a connection with Celtic? We bought him from Hibs, right? I know Hibs/Hearts is a similar dynamic, but it's not like SJM is Neil Lennon or Martin McGuinness. I've always thought of him as just Scottish.
Quote from: Rory on September 13, 2021, 09:12:25 PMDoes McGinn even have a connection with Celtic? We bought him from Hibs, right? I know Hibs/Hearts is a similar dynamic, but it's not like SJM is Neil Lennon or Martin McGuinness. I've always thought of him as just Scottish.You really have to be a dedicated prick to find out another team's players' religious denominations! I had no idea which he was, and nor do I care. Sigh. Such utter bullshit it all is.
Was this the idiot in the corner who kept gobbing off and giving SJM the V's? I noticed him when watching the game and wondered why, given everyone could see it on the telly and it makes Chelsea look stupid, they didn't haul him out there and then.
Reminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. .
Quote from: sickbeggar on September 14, 2021, 09:42:26 AMReminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. . As a recovering Catholic and atheist, I've always been a big fan of the CofE (whilst knowing nothing about it). It seems like a religion that sort of believes, but doesn't take it that seriously. As early Alan Partridge put it, he believes in God, but thinks of him as a kind of gas.
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on September 14, 2021, 09:45:56 AMQuote from: sickbeggar on September 14, 2021, 09:42:26 AMReminds me of a weird experience i had in a Birmingham pub years back when a drunk glaswegian Rangers top-wearing fan accosted me carrying a heavy looking scrap book. I was slightly nervous but he turned out to be tame, but the scrapbook just contained photo's of him following the Chelsea headhunters. No idea what was going on there except they have some vague hoolie link-up based on all that sectarian crap. Mind I once had a very drunk Celtic fan repeatedly ask me if I was Catholic or Protestant in a menacing way in another pub. Church of England seemed to confuse him and he went away. . As a recovering Catholic and atheist, I've always been a big fan of the CofE (whilst knowing nothing about it). It seems like a religion that sort of believes, but doesn't take it that seriously. As early Alan Partridge put it, he believes in God, but thinks of him as a kind of gas.I saw Stephen Fry describe Anglicanism as one of the great religions with the only drawback being the need to believe in God. I’d suggest half the vicars I’ve met down the years are pretty flaky on the believing in God part anyway.