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Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2685 on: September 13, 2021, 09:39:15 PM »
These days, if you say you're up to your knees in Fenian blood, they throw you in jail.

Do they? What, just for saying youíre up to your knees in Fenian blood? They arrest you and throw you in jail?

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2686 on: September 13, 2021, 09:41:13 PM »
When did this come in?

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2687 on: September 13, 2021, 09:46:41 PM »
When did this come in?

After my cousin, whose Dad is Irish and Mom is black, was called a 'cheating n*gger IRA fucking ******' on a football pitch. The parent who shouted that wasn't reprimanded or anything. My cousin was 13.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2688 on: September 13, 2021, 09:47:06 PM »
At the recent old firm game the Rangers fans were referencing that Celtic fans should go home because the famine was over.
This is vent occurred 170 years ago and pre dates the clubs.
And there was no away fans.
Itís a societal problem and until itís taken seriously it will always be there.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2689 on: September 13, 2021, 09:54:06 PM »
These days, if you say you're up to your knees in Fenian blood, they throw you in jail.

Do they? What, just for saying youíre up to your knees in Fenian blood? They arrest you and throw you in jail?

You honestly can't say anything. These days, if you say 'bollocks', free speech activists throw you in jail.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2690 on: September 13, 2021, 09:59:33 PM »
These days, if you say you're up to your knees in Fenian blood, they throw you in jail.

Do they? What, just for saying youíre up to your knees in Fenian blood? They arrest you and throw you in jail?

You honestly can't say anything. These days, if you say 'bollocks', free speech activists throw you in jail.

These days, you canít even quote Fawlty Towers without them warning the authorities that youíre a  trans-atlantic hitman, these days.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2691 on: September 13, 2021, 10:01:48 PM »
Hahaha!

Offline astonvilla82

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2692 on: September 13, 2021, 10:14:43 PM »
Wonder if the attitude would be different if it was n***ers blood or Jewish blood or Muslim blood

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2693 on: September 13, 2021, 10:28:01 PM »
At the recent old firm game the Rangers fans were referencing that Celtic fans should go home because the famine was over.
This is vent occurred 170 years ago and pre dates the clubs.
And there was no away fans.
Itís a societal problem and until itís taken seriously it will always be there.

Yep. As an English guy from an Irish background, I had a very strange experience in Glasgow. I visited Ibrox just to have a look and I was intimidated, followed, suffered sectarian abuse, spat at in the street. It was like they smelled the cabbage and white pudding in my genes.

I thought 'oh great, I got shit around Ibrox for having an Irish-looking head, I'll get shit around Parkhead for having an English accent' but everyone was really nice.

Our hotel receptionist, who was a Hearts fan, said they get more tourists and half/half scarf types at Celtic Park, so it's a bit more relaxed around there.

Don't know if that's true or not, but I was 16 when I went, and I was far more worried about getting anti-English crap from Celtic fans than anti-Irish stuff from Rangers fans.

Can't say I'll be going back in a hurry.

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« Reply #2694 on: September 13, 2021, 10:28:08 PM »
Wonder if the attitude would be different if it was n***ers blood or Jewish blood or Muslim blood

Eh? Everyone's agreeing it's bad.

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« Reply #2695 on: September 13, 2021, 10:32:10 PM »
Wonder if the attitude would be different if it was n***ers blood or Jewish blood or Muslim blood

Eh? Everyone's agreeing it's bad.

Yeah, it's been called out and condemned. I just don't think somebody saying 'fenian bastard' is as emotive as somebody saying 'black bastard' or whatever.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2696 on: September 13, 2021, 11:10:48 PM »
At the recent old firm game the Rangers fans were referencing that Celtic fans should go home because the famine was over.
This is vent occurred 170 years ago and pre dates the clubs.
And there was no away fans.
Itís a societal problem and until itís taken seriously it will always be there.

Yep. As an English guy from an Irish background, I had a very strange experience in Glasgow. I visited Ibrox just to have a look and I was intimidated, followed, suffered sectarian abuse, spat at in the street. It was like they smelled the cabbage and white pudding in my genes.

I thought 'oh great, I got shit around Ibrox for having an Irish-looking head, I'll get shit around Parkhead for having an English accent' but everyone was really nice.


Mirrors almost exactly my experience, except Iím English with no other background and mine was in the pubs in Glasgow. I thought Iíd be fine with Rangers fans and hated by Celtic, but it was wrong on both counts. Itís why the ignorant Ďbigot brothersí jibes wind me up. Itís like saying the blacks and whites in the Deep South USA are all as bad as each other, especially when taking into account the history of Irish persecution in Scotland..

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2697 on: September 13, 2021, 11:24:10 PM »
I reckon this thread is going to end up in an argument soon.

It's the law, any discussion touching on Rangers - Celtic always does.

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2698 on: September 13, 2021, 11:29:22 PM »
No itís not, I tell you.

Offline astonvilla82

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Re: John McGinn - signed
« Reply #2699 on: September 13, 2021, 11:37:00 PM »
It's not about Celtic or Rangers, it's about sectarianism in Scotland

 


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