Heaping pressure on McGinn? He picked him as captain, a position he still holds.
Quote from: Risso on March 15, 2023, 11:30:28 AMHeaping pressure on McGinn? He picked him as captain, a position he still holds.The pressure was the way the captaincy was changed over. Neither Mings or McGinn were playing particularly well last season although I still think Mings shaded it, but stating "he (McGinn) deserved it" and Mings needed to just concentrate on playing, then the ridiculous "look me in the eyes" message after the first loss of the season definitely made the captaincy decision a talking point. However it also meant McGinn was also then undroppable as his performances went worse and worse. Yes he is still Captain under Emery when he plays, but Emery didn't start him for several games which probably took the pressure off, allowed him to get his head around the tactics and has now returned playing some of his best play.
Goes to show what proper coaching can do!
Quote from: Somniloquism on March 15, 2023, 01:22:34 PMQuote from: Risso on March 15, 2023, 11:30:28 AMHeaping pressure on McGinn? He picked him as captain, a position he still holds.The pressure was the way the captaincy was changed over. Neither Mings or McGinn were playing particularly well last season although I still think Mings shaded it, but stating "he (McGinn) deserved it" and Mings needed to just concentrate on playing, then the ridiculous "look me in the eyes" message after the first loss of the season definitely made the captaincy decision a talking point. However it also meant McGinn was also then undroppable as his performances went worse and worse. Yes he is still Captain under Emery when he plays, but Emery didn't start him for several games which probably took the pressure off, allowed him to get his head around the tactics and has now returned playing some of his best play.Yeah, fortunately in that respect Emery could reasonably keep SJM on as captain (rather than a disruptive change mid-season), but also drop him (as he wasn't his appointment as captain). He won't have that luxury again after the summer, although hopefully he won't need it.Gerrard massively fucked up with the captaincy. Not such much in deciding to take the captaincy off Mings, but the manner he did it in was a complete mess.
Quote from: Chap on March 14, 2023, 08:02:29 AMGoes to show what proper coaching can do!And playing in a position that suits him.
Quote from: tomd2103 on March 15, 2023, 03:17:53 PMQuote from: Chap on March 14, 2023, 08:02:29 AMGoes to show what proper coaching can do!And playing in a position that suits him.What, midfield?
He means playing more box-to-box, he was definitely way too deep under Gerrard.
Quote from: paul_e on March 15, 2023, 03:34:11 PMHe means playing more box-to-box, he was definitely way too deep under Gerrard.I don't think that's true at all.
Quote from: Risso on March 15, 2023, 03:39:15 PMQuote from: paul_e on March 15, 2023, 03:34:11 PMHe means playing more box-to-box, he was definitely way too deep under Gerrard.I don't think that's true at all.I can prove it with data (below) but you're very wrong.
Quote from: paul_e on March 15, 2023, 03:57:38 PMQuote from: Risso on March 15, 2023, 03:39:15 PMQuote from: paul_e on March 15, 2023, 03:34:11 PMHe means playing more box-to-box, he was definitely way too deep under Gerrard.I don't think that's true at all.I can prove it with data (below) but you're very wrong.That's genuinely hilarious. So under Gerrard, according to those, he played slightly further forward against Palace and Everton under Gerrard than he did against Everton away under Emery, and somehow that's proof that he's played too deep under Gerrard?! Right you are then.Here's his heatmap from Whoscored for the Everton home game under Gerrard (Martinez included for context), virtually the whole game in the opposition half, but yeah, he played too deep.