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[Dante Lavelli]

The stands and roofs of the neighbouring house should all be listed. 

It was the opposite of good business but Wrigley Fields was is iconic as it gets.  You’d hope they can repurpose the stands as offices or something.

[saunders_heroes]

Chicago Bears just announced their new stadium plans. Soldier Field is downtown Chicago now and this would be built (it appears) in the same area. It’s a brilliant city with great architecture.

https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1783185834490888461?s=46

Wow that looks incredible. I’d love something like that for the Villa.

[ChicagoLion]

Chicago Bears just announced their new stadium plans. Soldier Field is downtown Chicago now and this would be built (it appears) in the same area. It’s a brilliant city with great architecture.

https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1783185834490888461?s=46

Wow that looks incredible. I’d love something like that for the Villa.

Sadly Birmingham has neither Lake Michigan or the Chicago skyline.

[PeterWithesShin]

We have Edgbaston ressie, so we win.

[ChicagoLion]

We have Edgbaston ressie, so we win.

And less gun crime, hooray 😃

[ADVILLAFAN]

Chicago Bears just announced their new stadium plans. Soldier Field is downtown Chicago now and this would be built (it appears) in the same area. It’s a brilliant city with great architecture.

https://x.com/chicagobears/status/1783185834490888461?s=46

Non-Retractable Roof and Turf apparently.

[Simon Page]

That's a stadium that will age as well as Bolton's. There's a reason no-one ever complains about an ugly Jacobean pile.

[PeterWithesShin]

Not sure if it's been mentioned before but on the ticket page some areas show as future rail seating.

[tomd2103]

We don't need to build A stadium.  We need two.

We also need to build a brand a new suberb of Birmingham.

A New Aston.

Look at the area around Wembley today.

Imagine that with Aston Hall and Villa Park as the back drop.

Job 1. Build a new housing development - as posh and modern as you like - and give the all locals a penthouse each.

Job 2. Build a new 30,000 stadium for the Ladies and all the other teams - they shouldn't be playing in Walsall. Just Like Barca and Manchester City have.

Job 3. Build a new Shoppping Centre + 27,000 Indoor Entertainment Complex (Bigger Than Manchesters)

Job 4. Villa Park almost but quite on the same sight - Overlaping the existing footprint.  Only demolish when 2/3 complete.  1/2 A Season sharing with the new 30,000 stadium.

We redevelop the whole of Aston with access Directly off Express Way and two Railway lines.

Two new Stadia, New Housing, New Entertainiment.  A new Aston.

With a mono rail from the Barton Arms to the new Holte End. Once more the largest cop end - in the world.

And a new youth team training centre to hoover up the most promising kids around ON THE MOON.

I like the ambition and think it is along the right lines in that if we are going to stay at Villa Park then it would probably have to be part of a bigger regeneration plan. 

To down scale the original plan a bit (and this would rely heavily on the purchasing of the houses between Witton Lane and the railway track, which may be impossible anyway):

Job one - would have to be finding an angle that would ensure anything there would be used all year round.  The idea that springs to mind would be a partnership with a university (Aston University springs to mind) to build a student village and even part of a campus there. 

Job two  - build a women's ground there.  The link I posted to the Edinburgh rugby ground details how they built a nearly 8,000 capacity stadium on the Murrayfield site for approx £5m, albeit the pitch and floodlights were probably already there. 

Job 3 - build retail, food and drink outlets which could be used both on matchdays and by the local student population. 

Job 4 - there then could be the space to potentially expand Villa Park in the way Liverpool have done with Anfield and not have to move during that process.

Whether anything like the above is actually possible is a big question, but I feel that something like that might be the only way we could stay at Villa Park.  The other problem.of course is that time is really of the essence and we could do the extra revenue boost in the near future.

[Weedy]

This would make a fine site for an Association Football ground. Oh wait.



Looking at the current site, there isn't much room to manoeuvre, without wholesale demolition etc.

[chrisw1]

A mini Wes interview. Don’t get to hear from him much. In truth doesn’t really say anything specific as it was the back end of a business interview on TV

https://x.com/justin_avfc_/status/1783099170796060916?s=46

I love the fact he says 'up the Villa' at the start.  I always remember as a kid my Grandad would say it every week when we visited and it's great the phrase is still so ingrained with fans after all these years.  I know a few other clubs use it, but it seems to me it's a mainly Villa thing and I love that.

UTFV. 

As a kid, I remember visiting my great grandmother, who was born in the early 1890s and suffered a husband who'd get a bit fighty whenever Villa lost, and every single time I saw her, the first thing she said to me was "up the villa". I remember the last time I saw my grandfather, he was in hospital and died later that day, the last thing he said as I left was "Up the Villa".

There some special things that make me think we are, well, special.

First of all, we are who we are, history and what not. Then there's the way we have a greater national cultural significance than the likes of, say, Newcastle. Then there's the fact that our name is so unusual - I don't know why the fuck the noses go on about carrying the city's name, a suburb is much cooler. Then there's the fact we so often get referred to by non Villa fans as "the Villa", that definite article adds respect and gravitas.

Plus, there is as John Gregory always said, a beatiful symmetry in our name - two five letter words. A name that starts and ends with the same letter. 'Villa' - how many others are there? Hardly any, and those that do exist are invariably named after us.

Aston Villa is unique, historic and culturally significant in ways the likes of pretty much all other clubs will never be.

Exactly Paulie.  Exactly.

[The Edge]

We don't need to build A stadium.  We need two.

We also need to build a brand a new suberb of Birmingham.

A New Aston.

Look at the area around Wembley today.

Imagine that with Aston Hall and Villa Park as the back drop.

Job 1. Build a new housing development - as posh and modern as you like - and give the all locals a penthouse each.

Job 2. Build a new 30,000 stadium for the Ladies and all the other teams - they shouldn't be playing in Walsall. Just Like Barca and Manchester City have.

Job 3. Build a new Shoppping Centre + 27,000 Indoor Entertainment Complex (Bigger Than Manchesters)

Job 4. Villa Park almost but quite on the same sight - Overlaping the existing footprint.  Only demolish when 2/3 complete.  1/2 A Season sharing with the new 30,000 stadium.

We redevelop the whole of Aston with access Directly off Express Way and two Railway lines.

Two new Stadia, New Housing, New Entertainiment.  A new Aston.

With a mono rail from the Barton Arms to the new Holte End. Once more the largest cop end - in the world.

And a new youth team training centre to hoover up the most promising kids around ON THE MOON.

I like the ambition and think it is along the right lines in that if we are going to stay at Villa Park then it would probably have to be part of a bigger regeneration plan. 

To down scale the original plan a bit (and this would rely heavily on the purchasing of the houses between Witton Lane and the railway track, which may be impossible anyway):

Job one - would have to be finding an angle that would ensure anything there would be used all year round.  The idea that springs to mind would be a partnership with a university (Aston University springs to mind) to build a student village and even part of a campus there. 

Job two  - build a women's ground there.  The link I posted to the Edinburgh rugby ground details how they built a nearly 8,000 capacity stadium on the Murrayfield site for approx £5m, albeit the pitch and floodlights were probably already there. 

Job 3 - build retail, food and drink outlets which could be used both on matchdays and by the local student population. 

Job 4 - there then could be the space to potentially expand Villa Park in the way Liverpool have done with Anfield and not have to move during that process.

Whether anything like the above is actually possible is a big question, but I feel that something like that might be the only way we could stay at Villa Park.  The other problem.of course is that time is really of the essence and we could do the extra revenue boost in the near future.

Re: the housing that sits between the ground and the railway track. Didn't Randy Lerner show us plans with all the housing removed and a brand new Villa Park Station? I think he called it "Villa Way" in a Wembley way type idea. I may have dreamt all that and I've no idea if the occupants of the houses were ever consulted. BUT I think that would be an amazing solution to our current dilemma so long as an amicable agreement could be reached with local residents.

[chrisw1]

You'll never reach an amicable agreement with all the residents. 

[PeterWithe]

You'd imagine that would be very difficult as the latter ones to sell would just hold out for massive prices.

[The Edge]

You'll never reach an amicable agreement with all the residents.

You don't know that for sure.