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Online eamonn

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5610 on: April 18, 2024, 11:25:29 AM »
Talking of Villa Park and times gone by*, this is a great photo. Let's have Fletcher's Walk back as well.


* iffy link, but I couldn't think where else to put it

I miss Mark Fletcher's posts.

Offline Risso

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5611 on: April 18, 2024, 11:35:24 AM »
Talking of Villa Park and times gone by*, this is a great photo. Let's have Fletcher's Walk back as well.


* iffy link, but I couldn't think where else to put it

I miss Mark Fletcher's posts.

Me too.

Offline Abbeyfealeavfc

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5612 on: April 19, 2024, 04:49:10 PM »
Staying at an improved and expanded B6 Villa Park  would be my preference.
What would we give for some/all of Lille’s solutions to aid their transport links to their stadium?

A metro every 2 minutes (10 mins walking distance from the ground, €1.80 for a single journey irrespective of length of journey)
Thousands of free car parking spaces around the stadium. Free on road and on pavement parking and not a parking ticket in sight.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5613 on: April 19, 2024, 04:54:37 PM »
I think that is the major annoyance, the transport problems for VP both now and in the future are easily solvable with a bit of 'can do'. Put more frequent trains in place after the match and implement a short term one way system away from the ground in all directions.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5614 on: April 19, 2024, 05:05:26 PM »
Last night summed things up perfectly.

Plenty of drawbacks, things to complain about, misgivings and worries but ultimately it was great.

Just like a trip to Villa Park, see the beauty in imperfection....

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5615 on: April 19, 2024, 05:29:47 PM »
Just looked at that Windsor St/Avenue Rd site and I think it nails it if we were to do a new build, much larger site and it leaves us in the heart of Aston - but close enough to the city centre too!

Offline paul_e

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5616 on: April 19, 2024, 05:57:45 PM »
I think that is the major annoyance, the transport problems for VP both now and in the future are easily solvable with a bit of 'can do'. Put more frequent trains in place after the match and implement a short term one way system away from the ground in all directions.

More frequent trains is very difficult because of the bottleneck at New Street. A full implementation of HS2 might've helped but without that the best option would be to petition for a tramline but I'd say the chances of getting one are very slim.

It's also a very dense residential area and it's pinned between a trainline and the park/Aston Hall the whole location is a natural bottleneck that it's hard to do much to fix. Park and Ride schemes would be the best solution for drivers but i have no idea how popular they'd be.

Online LeeB

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5617 on: April 19, 2024, 06:00:03 PM »
Hot air balloons from the park to outside Millennium Point.

Quiet and looks ace. Doesn't require infrastructure spend.

Offline BC Villain

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5618 on: April 19, 2024, 06:13:46 PM »
Hot air balloons from the park to outside Millennium Point.

Quiet and looks ace. Doesn't require infrastructure spend.

Could use some of the hot air that wafts over from the Sty....

Offline wince

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5619 on: April 19, 2024, 06:39:38 PM »
One of the issues with that playing field next to the site is the band of trees between it and the Cadent site. Find bats in there and you can forget it. That's before anyone raises the question of removing a green space.

So if a bat disposal expert appears on the Board in a couple of months, we'll know what's going on!
Surely you mean bat preservation expert?

No, a "bats, what bats?" expert...
Or Ozzy Osborne

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5620 on: April 19, 2024, 11:00:59 PM »
Monorail.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5621 on: April 20, 2024, 07:40:06 AM »
Villarail.

Fixed for your convenience

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5622 on: April 20, 2024, 08:01:14 AM »
I think that is the major annoyance, the transport problems for VP both now and in the future are easily solvable with a bit of 'can do'. Put more frequent trains in place after the match and implement a short term one way system away from the ground in all directions.

More frequent trains is very difficult because of the bottleneck at New Street. A full implementation of HS2 might've helped but without that the best option would be to petition for a tramline but I'd say the chances of getting one are very slim.

It's also a very dense residential area and it's pinned between a trainline and the park/Aston Hall the whole location is a natural bottleneck that it's hard to do much to fix. Park and Ride schemes would be the best solution for drivers but i have no idea how popular they'd be.
Not sure about the train thing. The cross city line is down to half hourly now (wasn't it 5/6 trains per hour at one point?) and I'd assume it's not the only one to have been cut.

Know New Street is still busy but surely it can't still be at capacity if there's not as many trains going there?


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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5623 on: April 20, 2024, 08:28:13 AM »
I think that is the major annoyance, the transport problems for VP both now and in the future are easily solvable with a bit of 'can do'. Put more frequent trains in place after the match and implement a short term one way system away from the ground in all directions.

More frequent trains is very difficult because of the bottleneck at New Street. A full implementation of HS2 might've helped but without that the best option would be to petition for a tramline but I'd say the chances of getting one are very slim.

It's also a very dense residential area and it's pinned between a trainline and the park/Aston Hall the whole location is a natural bottleneck that it's hard to do much to fix. Park and Ride schemes would be the best solution for drivers but i have no idea how popular they'd be.
Not sure about the train thing. The cross city line is down to half hourly now (wasn't it 5/6 trains per hour at one point?) and I'd assume it's not the only one to have been cut.

Know New Street is still busy but surely it can't still be at capacity if there's not as many trains going there?



I think you’re misinformed on the Cross City line. It’s only half hourly on a Sunday but it always has been. The trains are slightly less frequent than they were the rest of the time, down to 4 an hour rather than 6,  but are now 6 carriage trains rather than 3 most of the time so I would say overall capacity has increased.

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5624 on: April 20, 2024, 09:10:09 AM »
I am no doubt over simplifying things but our games don't finish during rush hours, we need more trains heading toward one of the biggest stations in Europe. I simply don't believe its impossible to solve the current transport issues if only there were the will to do it. There are tens of thousands of Bham Council Tax payers, and local election voters affected.

 


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