Quote from: algy on February 07, 2022, 01:11:32 PMQuote from: Ad@m on February 07, 2022, 12:58:36 PMWhether there's a rule in place or not I think VP needs to be 50k+ to host as the competition's so stiff.Obviously all 4 nations will be represented (I don't think NI has a stadium of any note?) and I can see them having groups of stadia to make security and travel potentially easier.So you end up with:WembleyHampdenMilleniumAvivaPlus the North West stadia:OTAnfieldEtihadAnd the big London venues:SpursEmiratesWest HamThat gives you 10 and Euro 2020 only had 11 venues. When you throw in the potential for Croke Park, Celtic and Ibrox and I can see VP being overlooked if the capacity isn't north of 50k.Yeah, I agree there. With it being held between England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland - I don't think a stadium with <50k capacity could (or should) be used. There'd be no need, you've got plenty of grounds that are above 50k:Wembley (90k)Croke Park (82k)Old Trafford (74k)Millennium Stadium (74k)Murrayfield (67k)London Stadium (62.5k)Spurs (62.5k)Celtic Park (60k)Emirates (60k)Emptihad (55k)Kings Dock / Everton (55k)Anfield (53k)St James Park (52.5k)Hampden Park (52k)Aviva Stadium (51.5k)Ibrox (51k)Stadium of Light (49k)Villa Park (42.5k)Sorry, but no way are you picking Villa Park on that list - it's too small in comparison to the other stadiums, even if you take out the two non-football grounds in the list.And interestingly given that list, even if you raise VP to 50k it doesn't change the conclusion. It needs to be a conscious political or operational decision for VP to end up as a host venue.
Quote from: Ad@m on February 07, 2022, 12:58:36 PMWhether there's a rule in place or not I think VP needs to be 50k+ to host as the competition's so stiff.Obviously all 4 nations will be represented (I don't think NI has a stadium of any note?) and I can see them having groups of stadia to make security and travel potentially easier.So you end up with:WembleyHampdenMilleniumAvivaPlus the North West stadia:OTAnfieldEtihadAnd the big London venues:SpursEmiratesWest HamThat gives you 10 and Euro 2020 only had 11 venues. When you throw in the potential for Croke Park, Celtic and Ibrox and I can see VP being overlooked if the capacity isn't north of 50k.Yeah, I agree there. With it being held between England, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland - I don't think a stadium with <50k capacity could (or should) be used. There'd be no need, you've got plenty of grounds that are above 50k:Wembley (90k)Croke Park (82k)Old Trafford (74k)Millennium Stadium (74k)Murrayfield (67k)London Stadium (62.5k)Spurs (62.5k)Celtic Park (60k)Emirates (60k)Emptihad (55k)Kings Dock / Everton (55k)Anfield (53k)St James Park (52.5k)Hampden Park (52k)Aviva Stadium (51.5k)Ibrox (51k)Stadium of Light (49k)Villa Park (42.5k)Sorry, but no way are you picking Villa Park on that list - it's too small in comparison to the other stadiums, even if you take out the two non-football grounds in the list.
Whether there's a rule in place or not I think VP needs to be 50k+ to host as the competition's so stiff.Obviously all 4 nations will be represented (I don't think NI has a stadium of any note?) and I can see them having groups of stadia to make security and travel potentially easier.So you end up with:WembleyHampdenMilleniumAvivaPlus the North West stadia:OTAnfieldEtihadAnd the big London venues:SpursEmiratesWest HamThat gives you 10 and Euro 2020 only had 11 venues. When you throw in the potential for Croke Park, Celtic and Ibrox and I can see VP being overlooked if the capacity isn't north of 50k.
Prestige, presumably some UEFA ill-gotten, big boost for local businesses, will piss off all of our smaller neighbours.
However, there is usually a rule in place that you can only have one city that has more than one stadium, which immediately knocks out a chunk of those - you will only get Old Trafford or the Etihad, not both, the same with Glasgow. On top of that, there are also requirements about the amount of accommodation available in a host city, which probably rules out places like Sunderland and a redeveloped King Power.In reality, I reckon the final list will probably look like:London - WembleyLondon - Olympic StadiumGlasgow - Hampden (redeveloped) or Celtic ParkEdinburgh - MurrayfieldCardiff - Millennium StadiumDublin - Aviva StadiumBelfast - new stadium (if it is a UK and Ireland bid then Belfast will be included somehow)Manchester - Old TraffordLiverpool - Anfield or Bramley Moore dockNewcastle - St James ParkBirmingham - Villa ParkLeeds - Elland Road (redeveloped)There might be a call to get a couple of other grounds in to get a better geographical spread (e.g. Brighton or Southampton), but in the main I can only see the biggest cities being chosen to host games.
Surely physical location needs to be a factor. It's not just size of stadium, it's other facilities like transport and local infrastructure like hotels and the like. Not having anything between London and the North West would be a disgrace.
Quote from: Risso on February 07, 2022, 01:16:25 PMSurely physical location needs to be a factor. It's not just size of stadium, it's other facilities like transport and local infrastructure like hotels and the like. Not having anything between London and the North West would be a disgrace.You keep telling us VP is the worst football stadium in the history of football to get away from at the end of the game!!