NSWE Investment

[The Edge]

As a result, in the last 10 years the top two English leagues have lost a massive £3.1 bln pre-tax with the largest losses at #AVFC £455m and #MCFC £446m. In this period only 11 out of 44 clubs managed to make money, led by #THFC £338m, #MUFC £191m, #AFC £112m and #NUFC £94m.

I'm scratching my head and wondering how that is even possible.

This is over the last 10 years, so includes the dark days

Yep, I get that. But even so. Four hundred and fifty-five million?

Makes me wonder about Man City. I'm no football finance expert but I've seen figures that point to there squad building as costing in the region of 1.5bn since the oil money started to flow. So how have they offset about a billion pound? It's not like they sell out every week and I can't see their corporate side raising anything like Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. There's been some clever bookkeeping that's for sure.

[AV82EC]

As a result, in the last 10 years the top two English leagues have lost a massive £3.1 bln pre-tax with the largest losses at #AVFC £455m and #MCFC £446m. In this period only 11 out of 44 clubs managed to make money, led by #THFC £338m, #MUFC £191m, #AFC £112m and #NUFC £94m.

I'm scratching my head and wondering how that is even possible.

This is over the last 10 years, so includes the dark days

Yep, I get that. But even so. Four hundred and fifty-five million?

Makes me wonder about Man City. I'm no football finance expert but I've seen figures that point to there squad building as costing in the region of 1.5bn since the oil money started to flow. So how have they offset about a billion pound? It's not like they sell out every week and I can't see their corporate side raising anything like Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. There's been some clever bookkeeping that's for sure.

Their Corporate doping is every bit as lucrative as The other three clubs you mention.

[ChicagoLion]

As a result, in the last 10 years the top two English leagues have lost a massive £3.1 bln pre-tax with the largest losses at #AVFC £455m and #MCFC £446m. In this period only 11 out of 44 clubs managed to make money, led by #THFC £338m, #MUFC £191m, #AFC £112m and #NUFC £94m.

I'm scratching my head and wondering how that is even possible.

This is over the last 10 years, so includes the dark days

Yep, I get that. But even so. Four hundred and fifty-five million?

Makes me wonder about Man City. I'm no football finance expert but I've seen figures that point to there squad building as costing in the region of 1.5bn since the oil money started to flow. So how have they offset about a billion pound? It's not like they sell out every week and I can't see their corporate side raising anything like Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. There's been some clever bookkeeping that's for sure.

Their Corporate doping is every bit as lucrative as The other three clubs you mention.

they were pulled up on it and miraculously found not guilty , it’s not even clever book keeping, it’s how much do we put in the credit column to match the debit column, 150million stadium advertising, that’ll do.

[Chris Harte]

Something I was thinking in relation to a possible expansion in the corporate facilities.

Say the club, in the process of rebuilding the North Stand, create corporate facilities on a par with those in the Trinity, at what point does it become worthless to have any more of these facilities because there's no more demand for a ticket that costs £250 to see the game, have premium seats*, get a three/five course meal, four-and-a-half hours of free bar and an ex-player Q&A session?

*I realise you wouldn't necesarily get Premium Seats in a rebuilt North Stand.

[dave.woodhall]

Something I was thinking in relation to a possible expansion in the corporate facilities.

Say the club, in the process of rebuilding the North Stand, create corporate facilities on a par with those in the Trinity, at what point does it become worthless to have any more of these facilities because there's no more demand for a ticket that costs £250 to see the game, have premium seats*, get a three/five course meal, four-and-a-half hours of free bar and an ex-player Q&A session?

*I realise you wouldn't necesarily get Premium Seats in a rebuilt North Stand.

Try getting any corporates for the rest of the season before you answer that one.

[Chris Harte]

Something I was thinking in relation to a possible expansion in the corporate facilities.

Say the club, in the process of rebuilding the North Stand, create corporate facilities on a par with those in the Trinity, at what point does it become worthless to have any more of these facilities because there's no more demand for a ticket that costs £250 to see the game, have premium seats*, get a three/five course meal, four-and-a-half hours of free bar and an ex-player Q&A session?

*I realise you wouldn't necesarily get Premium Seats in a rebuilt North Stand.

Try getting any corporates for the rest of the season before you answer that one.

I'm genuinely curious to know where the line would be. I've done corporate once, and it was a great fun, but if I did it every game I'm sure the novelty would wear off. This is why I suspect that the point at which it wouldn't pay the club wouldn't necessarily be a lot more than the current limit. But, as you allude to, I could well be wrong, hence my question.

[ChicagoLion]

I believe the demand is at the Lower corporate end of the market..

[Risso]

The corporate area is nearly all season tickets, and there's a long waiting list.

[Des Little]

I believe the demand is at the Lower corporate end of the market..

Exactly that. I’d be keen to pay more in order to access a lounge pre-match/half time/post-match and get served a drink within the hour.

[Demitri_C]

Sawiris has confirmed a deal with Egyptian side ZED FC to develop their youngsters. Could be a very promising move. The more fingers in more pies the better with us

[N'ZMAV]

Sawiris has confirmed a deal with Egyptian side ZED FC to develop their youngsters. Could be a very promising move. The more fingers in more pies the better with us

how would that work with work permits etc?

[Brazilian Villain]

Sawiris has confirmed a deal with Egyptian side ZED FC to develop their youngsters.

Or as Wes calls them, ZEE FC.

[papa lazarou]

Probably a pyramid scheme.

[pauliewalnuts]

Probably a pyramid scheme.

Bravo!

[Brazilian Villain]

We're 6th. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-100-best-football-stadiums-grounds-britain-uk-england-scotland-wales

I'm sure if we moved to a nondescript bowl with great parking we'd soon jump up to No. 1.